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The iceberg may not have been the only factor that caused the legendary Titanic to sink, according to a materials scientist from the National Institute of Standards and Technology who spoke at UF on Tuesday afternoon.

"It doesn't matter how cold it gets, ice doesn't cut steel," said Timothy J. Foecke, a material scientist in the metallurgy division at NIST, during a graduate seminar.

FACT: The Titanic was built with watertight compartments below decks, and was designed to remain floating after a hull rupture. The designers said, "God Himself could not sink this ship."

FACT: Ice doesn't cut steel.

FACT: The Titanic hull was found in two separate pieces - cut vertically - miles apart from each other on the ocean floor. Running against an iceberg horizontally doesn't cut anything vertically.

FACT: Hours before the Titanic supposedly "sank", first class passengers were loaded into lifeboats. Some were told it was a "drill" while other crew members were saying the ship was going to sink. WHO told the crew the ship was going to sink, and why did they have this magic psychic foreknowledge before the event happened. There were no reports from any qualified shipbuilding engineers that the ship would sink.

FACT: Cunard Lines received a huge insurance settlement.

Some of you Kool-Aid drinkers should start looking at the true facts of the sinking of the Titanic. It was nearly 100 years ago, and the so-called "experts" STILL cannot come up with the definitive and final version of why it sank.


(Stolen from a really old thread on DU.)
 
BenBurch said:
The iceberg may not have been the only factor that caused the legendary Titanic to sink, according to a materials scientist from the National Institute of Standards and Technology who spoke at UF on Tuesday afternoon.

"It doesn't matter how cold it gets, ice doesn't cut steel," said Timothy J. Foecke, a material scientist in the metallurgy division at NIST, during a graduate seminar.

FACT: The Titanic was built with watertight compartments below decks, and was designed to remain floating after a hull rupture. The designers said, "God Himself could not sink this ship."

FACT: Ice doesn't cut steel.

FACT: The Titanic hull was found in two separate pieces - cut vertically - miles apart from each other on the ocean floor. Running against an iceberg horizontally doesn't cut anything vertically.

FACT: Hours before the Titanic supposedly "sank", first class passengers were loaded into lifeboats. Some were told it was a "drill" while other crew members were saying the ship was going to sink. WHO told the crew the ship was going to sink, and why did they have this magic psychic foreknowledge before the event happened. There were no reports from any qualified shipbuilding engineers that the ship would sink.

FACT: Cunard Lines received a huge insurance settlement.

Some of you Kool-Aid drinkers should start looking at the true facts of the sinking of the Titanic. It was nearly 100 years ago, and the so-called "experts" STILL cannot come up with the definitive and final version of why it sank.


(Stolen from a really old thread on DU.)
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I want to be the first in this thread to finger the real culprits in the Titantic disaster.

(sounds of throat-clearing)

Ahem.

It was the Jooooos!

(iceberg, Goldberg--it's all the same)
 
Pardalis said:
You mean "chill"? We are talking about the arctic sea... ;)
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Well, answer me this, mr Smarty Pants... if the water was so cold it had huge blocks of ice in it, how come the whole ocean wasn't iced over? We all know that Ice freezes at 32 degrees, and the iceberg had to have been colder than that, otherwise it would have just been a huge block of liquid floating in the ocean.

Who's your handler? Captain Smith? Molly Brown? WHO DO YOU WORK FOR?
 
Pardalis said:
Is there any video of the sinking?
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Submarines were in the area in the 1990's. They all have video cameras on them, yet we are supposed to believe that in 1918 not a single one got a shot of the sinking? How stupid do they think we are?
 
Unsecured Coins said:
Well, answer me this, mr Smarty Pants... if the water was so cold it had huge blocks of ice in it, how come the whole ocean wasn't iced over? We all know that Ice freezes at 32 degrees, and the iceberg had to have been colder than that, otherwise it would have just been a huge block of liquid floating in the ocean.

Who's your handler? Captain Smith? Molly Brown? WHO DO YOU WORK FOR?
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For the past ninety-eight years, members of Steven Jones's family have been testing the exoskeleton of a crab found nowhere near the site of the Titanic's sinking for traces of thermite. They have recently updated their announcement, originally issued in 1912, that a breakthrough is imminent. That last update is the 96th.
 
This is a revival ,with adaptations for 9/11,of a ongoing satire of Holocaust Deniers that was on alt.revisionism and other usenet discussion groups back in the late 90's.
There was a similiar "discussion" about how the Great Famine in Ireland in 1846-1848 never happened,and was a massive hoax to win sympathy for the Irish.
Nice to see an old friend again.
 
I hate to rain on everyone's parade, but a) there's already a web site that parodies Loose Change with a faux Titanic conspiracy theory, and b) there's been at least one "real" Titanic conspiracy theory around for several years (see here).
 
Hate to inject a measure of real science into what is obviously a parody thread, but: Did anyone know that some researchers are saying that the steel used in Titanic's construction was faulty?

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F0CE1DD143DF935A2575AC0A965958260

A new analysis by maritime experts has concluded that the disastrous loss of the Titanic was caused not so much by an iceberg as by structural weaknesses in the ship's steel plates that caused them to fail catastrophically.

A better grade of steel, the analysis concludes, would have reduced the extensive fracturing and allowed the ship to remain afloat or to flood more slowly, perhaps saving many lives if rescue ships had arrived before the sinking.
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I found that interesting. I sort of remembered that from a History Channel (or was it Discovery?) documentary on that exact topic.

ETA: Note that the link I provided is from 1993. There may be more research on this topic since then. I just haven't bothered to look it up at the moment (waiting for a cab to take me to the mechanics to pick up my car).
 
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