The case against Dr. Paul

JEROME DA GNOME said:
There are no silly questions, only silly people who ask questions. ;)
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...of which you are the perfect example.

Your questions on the other hand are nonsensical.
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No more so than yours. The difference between you and me is, *I* realize my questions are nonsense, and thus labelled them as such. *You*, on the other hand, suffer from the delusion that what you claim makes sense.
 
JEROME DA GNOME said:
America had Soviet interests, yes. That does not equate to my saying that American interests concerning the Soviets necessitated military force stationed in Europe.
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What was my original question? Oh, that's right:

Do you think it was in America's interest to keep troops in W. Germany during the Cold War?
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My question was not do you think America had soviet interests. It was: Was it in American interests to keep troops in W. Germany during the Cold War?

You'll have to forgive me if I can't keep track of your dodging, it's just that I'm used to someone who can give straight answers, without the run-around.

What Soviet interests do you think America had? Where one of those interests keeping W. Germany from falling into the Soviet bloc? How do you think the US could have accomplished our interests without stationing troops in W. Germany, given the climate of post-WW2 Europe?
 
Chaos said:
Curious that you cannot for the ****ing hell of it be brought to admit that "the issue at hand" is total and utter bogus.
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That America's Empire has placed the world economy in a precarious state is the issue at hand.

If you think that is bogus, I would suggest you educate yourself a bit more about current events.
 
I dont know much about the economy as everyone here already knows because i state it all the time, but i more often then not hear on the news we are going in a recession.

Forgot what station i was watching but it stated that "Most on wall street say a recession is definitely on the way."
 
JEROME DA GNOME said:
That America's Empire has placed the world economy in a precarious state is the issue at hand.

If you think that is bogus, I would suggest you educate yourself a bit more about current events.
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I suggest you educate yourself a little more about the concept of empire. Quite a lot more in fact.

It is odd, given your insistence that the meaning of the word democracy cannot have changed since 1786, despite popular usage, wish to redefine the word "empire" to suit your political goals- when neither history nor common usage is on your side.

By what authority do you assert this change?
 
OneShotKi11 said:
I dont know much about the economy as everyone here already knows because i state it all the time, but i more often then not hear on the news we are going in a recession.

Forgot what station i was watching but it stated that "Most on wall street say a recession is definitely on the way."
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Greenspan has asserted recently that this maybe the worst economy since the Great Depression. The Fed was a major player in that also, were they not?
 
brodski said:
I suggest you educate yourself a little more about the concept of empire. Quite a lot more in fact.

It is odd, given your insistence that the meaning of the word democracy cannot have changed since 1786, despite popular usage, wish to redefine the word "empire" to suit your political goals- when neither history nor common usage is on your side.

By what authority do you assert this change?
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Ducking the question and playing semantics.

Good luck with that.
 
WildCat said:
First of all, there simply isn't enough gold in the entire world to back every dollar in existence. And the government itself has only about $235 billion in gold. So the gold standard simply isn't going to happen and cannot happen.

Secondly, the Fed does not print money.
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Oliver is a little off on this topic. Im not sure if its because hes not explaining it incorrectly or if he just doesnt really know, but please allow me to tell you again....

Ron Paul knows that their isnt enough Gold to back all the money we have and blah, blah, blah. You keep repeating that and the statement itself is true but its not what Ron Paul wants to do.

Ron Paul has been quoted as saying a "New Gold Standard". He also has explained what he meant by "New gold standard" and made sure that he made the point that he didnt want to go back to the "Gold Standard"

He explained the "New Gold Standard"as being along side with our Fiat currency he wanted to allow people to get there hands on a gold back currency as well. He wanted them to both be in circulation at the same time.
That was the basic point of what he means when he says "New Gold Standard". He also has acknowledged that their isnt enough gold in the world to cover what we have created.

I gave a really short explanation of what he really wanted to do because i havent read about it in awhile, but it runs along those lines.
The point of this was to just get you to stop spewing that one stupid statistic OVER AND OVER in every Ron Paul thread in the world. It just doesnt apply to what he wants to do.

That seems to be a tactic you use alot. You state facts that cant be argued because they are indeed facts. Then you beat your chest like your correct and won the debate. Only what you stated doesnt apply to whats being discussed.

So yes i and Ron Paul agree that the Gold standard isnt going to happen because their isnt enough Gold in the world to back every dollar in existence.
 
OneShotKi11 said:
He explained the "New Gold Standard"as being along side with our Fiat currency he wanted to allow people to get there hands on a gold back currency as well. He wanted them to both be in circulation at the same time.
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What purpose could that possibly serve?
 
Oliver said:
Well, ask those damned Bastards who invested all their worthless Dollars in Gold. *Shaking fists at them* :)
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How does that answer the question? A dollar backed by gold would still be worth a dollar, no matter what happens to the price of gold.
 
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