Larry Silverstein Takes Questions....

[Dave Rogers]

With this ambiguous and cryptic quote, we have the implication that the lives of the firefighters were at least in part dependent on Silverstein's suggestion to pull "it". Do you not find it odd that a fire department commander would base his decision to "pull" on the recommendation of a building owner, rather than his own assessment of the safety of his men?

I don't for one minute imagine that was the case. However, I find it quite possible that a fire department commander, trying to explain to a very rich and powerful man that he is planning to let his building collapse, might be more than happy to allow said r.&p.m. to believe that he, not the fire department commander, was the one to suggest letting the building collapse. It's called customer relations. If the customer feels involved in your decisions, he's less likely to question them.

I know that if I were personally questioned as to my possible involvement in the murders of nearly three-thousand people, I would be screaming my innocence from rooftops, and making my comments that day crystal clear to anyone with questions.

No, you don't know any such thing. You just think that's what you'd do. If it actually happened, you might think the whole thing so ridiculous that you couldn't be bothered to reply to the groundless accusations of a bunch of lunatics. Or you might feel that a group of slanderous liars who had wilfully misinterpreted your words once should not be given the opportunity to wilfully misinterpret any further statements from you. Or you might find the whole affair so traumatic that you wanted to move on and have nothing more to do with it. Or any number of other perfectly good reasons.

Dave

 

[Dave Rogers]

A 47 story modern concrete and steel skyscraper BURNS TO THE GROUND!

That is your brilliant assessment of what happened.

Are you deliberately misrepresenting what I said for a reason, or is it just to keep in practice?

Dave

 

[Jonnyclueless]

And so another rockets sputters on the launchpad.

I suggest you stick to fluid dynamics which apparently is your sole area of expertise.

Larry Silverstein is not some kid lying about a record card!

Talk about pathetic analogies.

MM

I don't know whether to laugh or cry at your complete inability to understand his post. But it does point out why you guys get stuck on this whole issue. It's a lack of comprehension.

 

[Miragememories]

When we all sat here saying that LS was talking to Nigro, were we peddling something? Were we lying? No, we just make an understandable assumption and were wrong.

You, Gravy (Mark Roberts) and the rest of the gang of 9/11 bigots gladly clung to the Larry Silverstein statements and shoved it everyone's faces.

Larry Silverstein's quotes were welcomed when useful, and spun every way possible, all in the name of a greater understanding of the Official Story.

Once his quotes were negated, they conveniently become inconsequential and nothing but fodder for "troofers".

The hypocrisy here is so 'ripe', one needs a gas mask to wade through it.

MM

 

[applecorped]

Ummm.....Bush did it.

 

[pomeroo]

No one said it was jargon for "blow up the building." It's used to describe how the bldg would be pulled in on itself, imploded, as was the case with WTC 7.

No, it isn't. How many demolition professionals do you need to make this clear?
The phrase "pull it" is NOT used in the context of using explosives to cause a building to implode. Can you ever get past this point? Silverstein's conversation had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH DEMOLITION. THE SUBJECT WAS NEITHER RAISED, NOR IMPLIED. THE FDNY IS NOT IN THE BUSINESS OF BLOWING UP BUILDINGS.

 

[Miragememories]

Are you deliberately misrepresenting what I said for a reason, or is it just to keep in practice?

Dave

If a post is written clearly in the Queen's English, the likelihood of misunderstanding will be greatly reduced.

MM

 

[Dave Rogers]

Ummm.....Bush did it.

I'm beginning to sense a pattern here.

Dave

 

[Miragememories]

I'm beginning to sense a pattern here.

Dave

Well time to buff up that crystal ball that appears to be the source of most of these perceptions you gift us with.

MM

 

[applecorped]

MMMM.....Bush did it.

 

[pomeroo]

Someone's getting frustrated. You're building a strawman with the phrase "blow up." Blowing a building up is never the goal of controlled demolition. The goal is to pull walls inward and use gravity to collapse the bldg in on itself, as happened to WTC 7.

Your childlike behavior is preventing you from understanding this important point.

Your childish (not "childlike") behavior is preventing you from understanding that no one who works in the demolition industry buys your spin. The phrase "pull it" is a FIREFIGHTERS' term, not a demolition term. Conspiracy liars have attempted to twist Silverstein's attempt to "talk shop" with a representative of the Fire Department into an utterly mad request that the firefighters blow up his own building.

 

[pomeroo]

Why would any FDNY commander waste time calling Silverstein during 9/11?

As Arthur Scheuerman, a retired FDNY battalion chief, explained, it was merely a courtesy call to the owner of the building. The firefighters did not require or ask for Silverstein's permission to do anything. As much as you want this to be hard to understand, it really isn't.

 

[R.Mackey]

Today is "whiny 90's Brit Pop Day" at my house.

Reading this thread and the lyrics in the background just happened to correlate to perfection:

We're so young
And so dumb
Let's chase the dragon...

Think about it. This line of questioning leads -nowhere-. No matter what he actually said, there's no way it would ever serve as evidence in any trial, of any crime, of anyone. It's almost a form of OCD with some people.

 

[Gord_in_Toronto]

uh huh

He was totally unaware that his statements were being recorded for public consumption.

He totally ignored his right to correct his recorded statements and request corrections or omissions.

Ya right.

It's not like it was broadcast "live!"

MM

Why should he "correct" anything? Why should he care what a few lunatics keep repeating over and over and over again as though somehow that reveals the TRVTH?

 

[kookbreaker]

You, Gravy (Mark Roberts) and the rest of the gang of 9/11 bigots gladly clung to the Larry Silverstein statements and shoved it everyone's faces.

Larry Silverstein's quotes were welcomed when useful, and spun every way possible, all in the name of a greater understanding of the Official Story.

Hmmm. Really? I do seem to recall that the 'pull it' quote was thrown out by your side over and over and over. Often with bits removed for troothy quote mining goodness, and we were told over and over and over that 'pull it' was jargon for a controlled demolition.

In fact you should be able to find several references to folks declaring that Larry's words were an outright confession to blowing up the building.

Meanwhile, on the more rational side of the fence. We simply pointed out the absurdity of such claims. The idea that he'd confess on National TV (laughable), that 'pull it' is slang for demolition (t'ain't), and that he'd in any way be a party to this massive loss of income.

But your side kept on repeating the quote over and over.

We 'debunkers' never needed,nor required the quote, except to find the full version and to point out the silliness of the claims made about it.

Once his quotes were negated, they conveniently become inconsequential and nothing but fodder for "troofers".

The hypocrisy here is so 'ripe', one needs a gas mask to wade through it.

MM

I'm sorry, but the only hypocrisy is your attempt to rewrite history. Its actually quite sad.

 

[Miragememories]

No, it isn't. How many demolition professionals do you need to make this clear?
The phrase "pull it" is NOT used in the context of using explosives to cause a building to implode. Can you ever get past this point? Silverstein's conversation had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH DEMOLITION. THE SUBJECT WAS NEITHER RAISED, NOR IMPLIED. THE FDNY IS NOT IN THE BUSINESS OF BLOWING UP BUILDINGS.

And good talk show hosts no better than to to take sides.

More than one reputable person in the building demolition industry has expressed a reasonable level of comfort in accepting the aternative use of the term "pull-it".

"pull-it" has two meanings.

Sometimes demolition companies use cables to pull down the remains of buildings and sometimes they refer to "pull-it" as a slang for of controlled demolition.

Being a non-professional, it is not too surprising that Larry Silverstein would use slang when describing what occurred with WTC 7.

Since I've never seen balance and a lack of moderator bias in the HardFire small, scattercast TV show , it is not in the least surprising that you would dispute Larry Silverstein's language.

MM

 

[Miragememories]

We 'debunkers' never needed,nor required the quote, except to find the full version and to point out the silliness of the claims made about it.

Ahh the debunker myth.

Too funny.

MM

 

[applecorped]

Ummmm....Bush did it.

 

[pomeroo]

I think the idea that a commandor decided to call Larry on 9-11 is odd. Buildings were raging with fire and people were trapped under rubble. I think calling Larry would have absolutely no value, and as such, seems suspicious.

Add that to the fact that Larry said "pull it" and not "pull them", when the firefighters were already "pulled" during the time of said conversation, the whole thing becomes very suspicious.

Nothing adds up, either for CT claims or OS claims.

It = the contingent of firefighters and rescue workers;

or

It = the operation, viewed as a single concept.


Given that the call was a courtesy call and that Silverstein did not have a close familiarity with events on the ground, your "suspicions" are purely disingenuous. You can't begin to explain what you suspect Silverstein of doing. Your smears are meant to disguise the emptiness of the fantasy movement's myth.

 

[Thunder]

Ya you would.

Says all that needs to be said about your whole view of 9/11 unfortunately.

MM

calling someone a murderer without proof, is slander. writing an article saying someone is a killer, without evidence, is libel.

following someone around, calling them names, yelling at them, from city to city...is harrassment.

Silverstein should get a nation-wide restraining order against every member of WeAreChange.

You've asked your questions. You've made your statemants. Now file charges with the police, or leave the man alone.