1992 Amsterdam apartment block crash

[MetalPig]

Not related to anything, but last week a kid died at 16. His parents were killed in the Bijlmer crash when he was a baby.

 

[peteweaver]

Earthborn, here's wikipedia's diagram of the blocks of flats, the red ones are the ones which are still standing, the grey ones have been demolished.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Map_of_Bijlmermeer.svg

That entire section, hit by the boeing was demolished.

But it was ONE building the boeing hit, not two.

 

[Mr. Skinny]

Something tells me that there were likely expansion joints near the corner (not at the corner but on either side). Buildings have an upper limit of how long they can be before thermal expansion starts becomming a huge problem.

Off topic - wouldn't mind hearing about the major differences between expansion joints and vibration isolation joints between buildings...or where I could read about it.

 

[Phaedrus74]

Oh noes, El Al! That means Joooooooos!!11!!!1!1!

It was obviously a practice run..

Note that it occurred almost precisely nine years before 9-11.
This practice run occurred in october, which is september + one.
This practice run occurred on the 4th of that month which is precisely one week before the 11th.

9-1-1

WAKE UP SHEEPLE!!!eleventy!!!1!!1!1!

Also note that this was a cargo plane, loaded with chemicals to be tested for deployment using cropdusters as evidenced by the large number of mysterious guys in white hazmat suit.

Also the recording of the final messages relayed form the plane is obviously a recording pointing to the fact the the plane was in fact remote controlled.

/sarcasm

Sorry, but I couldn't resist. This occurred right after I started in college in Amsterdam. And some relatives of mine lived very close by. Awful business...

 

[Dave Rogers]

A lot of debris has been found, the engines somewhere in a lake if I remember well.

So the engines came off when the plane was shot down, missed the apartment block and landed in a lake somewhere else, and you don't find that suspicious?

Dave

 

[Phaedrus74]

So the engines came off when the plane was shot down, missed the apartment block and landed in a lake somewhere else, and you don't find that suspicious?

Dave

The really suspicious thing is that the engines that fell off were apparently forcefully projected backwards along the flight path (approx. 15 miles I think).

I'm guessing they were testing the rockets they would later tie to the debris from WTC to make it overtake the collapsing buildings that, as we know, fell at near freefall speeds!!

*Sigh*

[Phaedrus shuffles off to get his meds....]

 

[aggle-rithm]

Not related to anything, but last week a kid died at 16. His parents were killed in the Bijlmer crash when he was a baby.

Could it be that the NWO doesn't want any offspring growing up and taking revenge?

Just asking questions.

 

[aggle-rithm]

The really suspicious thing is that the engines that fell off were apparently forcefully projected backwards along the flight path (approx. 15 miles I think).

I'm guessing they were testing the rockets they would later tie to the debris from WTC to make it overtake the collapsing buildings that, as we know, fell at near freefall speeds!!

Not only that, but if you trace the flight path of the plane backwards it leads...

DIRECTLY TO THE AIRPORT!!!!

[Phaedrus shuffles off to get his meds....]

Have some for me, will you?

 

[Phaedrus74]

Not only that, but if you trace the flight path of the plane backwards it leads...

DIRECTLY TO THE AIRPORT!!!!

Da Troof!! They Hurtz!!

Have some for me, will you?

I think I will, I feel like I'm coming down with something (at near freefall speeds)...

 

[Earthborn]

But it was ONE building the boeing hit, not two.

This pre-disaster airphoto suggests that you may be right. Why then do all sources, including wikipedia say there were two? Must be a conspiracy!

 

[Phaedrus74]

This pre-disaster airphoto suggests that you may be right. Why then do all sources, including wikipedia say there were two? Must be a conspiracy!

The confusion arises (I think) from the fact that the building(s) were two with respect to (postal) adresses [Klein Kruitberg and Groeneveen].

It might very well be the case though that they formed one contiguous structure.

On the other hand, this confusion is probably engineered to deflect attention from the real issues.

 

[aggle-rithm]

I think I will, I feel like I'm coming down with something (at near freefall speeds)...

Then I'll just sit back and enjoy the vicarious placebo effect.

 

[Phaedrus74]

Then I'll just sit back and enjoy the vicarious placebo effect.

Just promise me you won't be operating heavy machinery

 

[einsteen]

So the engines came off when the plane was shot down, missed the apartment block and landed in a lake somewhere else, and you don't find that suspicious?

Dave

I don't understand what you are saying. It was metal fatigue in one of the pins for the engine (if I remember well), the engine hit the other one and they fell into the lake, the pilot tried to do his best but collapsed into that flat corner. Oh and debris has been found, a complete landing gear, the fuselage etc.

 

[Dave Rogers]

I don't understand what you are saying. It was metal fatigue in one of the pins for the engine (if I remember well), the engine hit the other one and they fell into the lake, the pilot tried to do his best but collapsed into that flat corner. Oh and debris has been found, a complete landing gear, the fuselage etc.

Metal fatigue in one pin? Do you honestly expect me to believe that there is no redundancy in a structure as important to an airliner as the engine support pylon, so that the failure of a single pin can cause an engine to fall off? As for an engine hitting another engine, let me remind you that the engines are side by side under the wings, and gravity pulls downwards, so for one engine to hit another one, gravity would have to change direction. All the debris could easily have been planted. It's quite clear that there's some kind of coverup going on here.

Dave

 

[aggle-rithm]

Metal fatigue in one pin? Do you honestly expect me to believe that there is no redundancy in a structure as important to an airliner as the engine support pylon, so that the failure of a single pin can cause an engine to fall off? As for an engine hitting another engine, let me remind you that the engines are side by side under the wings, and gravity pulls downwards, so for one engine to hit another one, gravity would have to change direction. All the debris could easily have been planted. It's quite clear that there's some kind of coverup going on here.

Dave

The pin was made by Halliburton, maybe.

ETA: My mistake. Halliburton got the contract for the REDUNDANT pin. It will be ready Tuesday.

 

[BenBurch]

Metal fatigue in one pin?

Ah, the famous "Single Pin Theory." As if one magic pin could do all that!

They have used this before in the AA-191 crash at O'Hare Airport, Chicago on May 25th, 1979. Say that a stressed pin caused the engine to fall off.

Yeah, right.

Pull the other one.

Obviously this was just a dress rehearsal for the 1992 Amsterdam Conspiracy.

 

[Miragememories]

Mirage, its obvious from the wider angle pic that the plane hit not two blocks but one zig zag shaped building.

And where the plane crashed there was a progressive collapse around the impact point.

I posted the quote from the original news story and did not edit their wording.

"At 6:35 pm local time, the Boeing 747, in nearly a ninety-degree bank with its right wing pointing at the ground, plowed into two high-rise apartment complexes in the Bijlmermeer neighborhood, at the corner of a building where the Groeneveen complex met the Klein-Kruitberg complex. The building exploded into flames and partially collapsed inward, destroying dozens of apartments. The cockpit came to rest east of the flats, between the building and the viaduct of Amsterdam Metro Line 53."

MM

 

[WildCat]

I posted the quote from the original news story and did not edit their wording.



MM

And...?

 

[PhantomWolf]

I don't understand what you are saying. It was metal fatigue in one of the pins for the engine (if I remember well), the engine hit the other one and they fell into the lake, the pilot tried to do his best but collapsed into that flat corner. Oh and debris has been found, a complete landing gear, the fuselage etc.

Sounds to me like you are just quoting the offical story. Have you seen these so called debris and checked their serial numbers? If not, how do you know that they really were found there and were actually part of the plane? For that matter do you have any footage of the so called crash? How do you know it really was a plane that hit the building? It could have been a missile or a truck bomb.