1992 Amsterdam apartment block crash

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On the fourth of october 1992, shortly after taking off from Schipol, an El Al 747 cargo plane crashed into an Amsterdam apartment block causing immense damage, and collapsing the middle section of the building.

Last week I noticed a troofer on a yahoo forum mention this crash, and claimed that despite massive damage to the building, it didn't collapse.

The troofer, hadn't checked his facts.

This pic shows what happened to the building:

If anything it adds to the case against the troofer's.

That towerblock clearly had not been constructed the same way as the wtc's, but in its impact area there was a total progressive collapse.
 
Hey, let's not ignore the obvious: where's the plane???

I don't see one, do you?

Looks like a missile impact to me. :rolleyes:
 
Christ these comparisons don't even make sense! How can they continue making them?

Nevermind, don't answer that...
 
CHF said:
Hey, let's not ignore the obvious: where's the plane???

I don't see one, do you?

Looks like a missile impact to me. :rolleyes:
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Don't be silly, that was obviously done by a laser-guided Belgian Smart-Waffle.
 
I reckon Poirot did it; whenever he's about twiddling his moustache, there's always some poor so and so gets killed.
 
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peteweaver said:
That towerblock clearly had not been constructed the same way as the wtc's, but in its impact area there was a total progressive collapse.
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NO.

"At 6:35 pm local time, the Boeing 747, in nearly a ninety-degree bank with its right wing pointing at the ground, plowed into two high-rise apartment complexes in the Bijlmermeer neighborhood, at the corner of a building where the Groeneveen complex met the Klein-Kruitberg complex. The building exploded into flames and partially collapsed inward, destroying dozens of apartments. The cockpit came to rest east of the flats, between the building and the viaduct of Amsterdam Metro Line 53."

MM
 
How can anyone compare a concrete residential building with a steel framed office building is beyond me.

Did your truther bring up the DU issue with the Amsterdam crash?
 
I have heard conspiracy theorists mention this crash, but it's been more in context of the alleged chemical weapon precursors being carried aboard, and the claimed government suppression of their presence.
 
CHF said:
But MM....where's the plane???
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Maybe it melted along with the blackbox.

BTW where's the global collapse???

And did they ever come clean about exactly what kind of chemicals they were hauling and how much?
 
ellindsey said:
I have heard conspiracy theorists mention this crash, but it's been more in context of the alleged chemical weapon precursors being carried aboard, and the claimed government suppression of their presence.
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Of course there were chemical weapon precursors on board. It's called "jet fuel".
 
Lastchild, look at the design of the building, the load is distributed over a much wider area.

Thats why there was no global collapse.

Incase you didn't notice, there was no global collapse of the pentagon either.

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Alfred, no my twoofer didn't bring up DU. Just parroted the "but the building didn't fall down" nonesense without looking at any pics of it.
 
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Mirage, its obvious from the wider angle pic that the plane hit not two blocks but one zig zag shaped building.
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It may look that way, but it isn't true. Those were two seperate apartment buildings, one large zig zag shaped building named "Groeneveen", the other small and rectangular named "Klein-Kruitberg", which means Small "Kruitberg", which is the name of the large zig zag shaped building in the background.

Here is a recent Google map of the area, which of course doesn't show any damage, but does show you the lay-out of the area.
 
Something tells me that there were likely expansion joints near the corner (not at the corner but on either side). Buildings have an upper limit of how long they can be before thermal expansion starts becomming a huge problem. Typically we limit buildings to 300 feet in any one direction so as to not have to worry about this. This would help minimize the damage from the collapse propagating. I would like very much to see the structural plans for this building.

But in any event, it's not that tall of a building. A progressive collapse generally spreads down and out at the same time. If it can't move down anymore, the collapse is going to halt.
 
One of my best friends saw it crashing. Seconds of disaster has a nice documentary about it, metal fatique in one of the engines, the engine came loose and collapsed with the other one. It created a complete gaping hole in the corner of those two flat blocks. A lot of debris has been found, the engines somewhere in a lake if I remember well.

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=bijlmer+crash
 
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