Possible Montana Secession?

[mijopaalmc]

So, Jerome, do you think that the same principles apply to Montana's "threat" of secession as applied to the South's secession?

 

[JEROME DA GNOME]

Stop being a child, Jerome. That is, stop moving the goalposts, stop being intellecutally dishonest and above al lelase, stop automatically rejecting anything that doesn't agree with your worldview.

Laughing dogs are not against my world-view.


Every time I see them it is a sure sign that reasoned thought has caused a mental regression to the sand-box from which group acceptance is the only solace a mind which is fully contorted can find.

 

[JEROME DA GNOME]

So, Jerome, do you think that the same principles apply to Montana's "threat" of secession as applied to the South's secession?

To which principles are you referring?

 

[mijopaalmc]

To which principles are you referring?

Sorry for the poorly worded question.

What I meant to ask was: In your eyes, what forms the legal basis for the United States federal government to recognize the secession of any of the states as legitimate?

 

[KoihimeNakamura]

Laughing dogs are not against my world-view.


Every time I see them it is a sure sign that reasoned thought has caused a mental regression to the sand-box from which group acceptance is the only solace a mind which is fully contorted can find.

Translation: I refuse to believe that someone could find it so hilariously wrong.

 

[JEROME DA GNOME]

Sorry for the poorly worded question.

What I meant to ask was: In your eyes, what forms the legal basis for the United States federal government to recognize the secession of any of the states as legitimate?

The Federal government does not have to recognize a sovereign State's secession from the union.

 

[JEROME DA GNOME]

Translation: I refuse to believe that someone could find it so hilariously wrong.

Did you not read what the dog was prefaced with? : "Without even reading it....."

 

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Did you not read what the dog was prefaced with? : "Without even reading it....."

Because we've learned over time that the "evidence" posted by Libertarians is not even worth reading. Except for a laugh. Ergo, I knew I could laugh at it, without even wasting my time reading it.

Once more, as a reminder...

 

[mijopaalmc]

The Federal government does not have to recognize a sovereign State's secession from the union.

But the problem here is that, with the exception of the land that belonged to the original Thirteen Colonies that was incorporated into the states as they ratified the Constitution, all of the land that became the states of the United States first belonged to the federal government by treaty with other foreign powers. It was then organized by organic act and granted statehood by enabling act, but at no time did the land itself leave the ownership of the federal government. Thus, a state government that declares itself its own sovereign nation "becomes" a nation that is illegally "occupying" the sovereign territory of the United States and is therefore subject to invasion by the United States in order to regain its sovereign territory.

 

[JEROME DA GNOME]

Because we've learned over time that the "evidence" posted by Libertarians is not even worth reading. Except for a laugh. Ergo, I knew I could laugh at it, without even wasting my time reading it.

Once more, as a reminder...

I am smarter than you because I can make more laughing dogs.





















Oh and by the way: Every time I see them it is a sure sign that reasoned thought has caused a mental regression to the sand-box from which group acceptance is the only solace a mind which is fully contorted can find.

 

[JEROME DA GNOME]

But the problem here is that, with the exception of the land that belonged to the original Thirteen Colonies that was incorporated into the states as they ratified the Constitution, all of the land that became the states of the United States first belonged to the federal government by treaty with other foreign powers. It was then organized by organic act and granted statehood by enabling act, but at no time did the land itself leave the ownership of the federal government. Thus, a state government that declares itself its own sovereign nation "becomes" a nation that is illegally "occupying" the sovereign territory of the United States and is therefore subject to invasion by the United States in order to regain its sovereign territory.

Interesting. I had not thought about that. I believe you are correct. Thanks.

 

[littlehulkster]

I, for one, eagerly await the chance to move to Montana where I can form an insurgency group named after the local high school mascot with my buddy Charlie Sheen and a ragtag group of local kids and resist the brutal Canadian army invasion.