[Merged]architects and engineers for 9/11 truth = SCAM!

Crungy said:
Ah Tucson! One of my hobbies is collecting rare music/film. A few years back a certain dry cleaner from Tucson named Rob Guarnieri created an extremely elaborate scam (still have a wealth of email correspondance) where he inherited a gold mine of audio/video tapes from a fictional deceased friend who ran the sound and cctv for various clubs along the east coast in the late 60s/ early 70s. He had representitives from Eric Clapton, The Doors and Jimi Hendrix bidding up to 6 figures for items in his treasure chest. I think that he had minor sucess bilking a Led Zeppelin collector for roughly $10K. Last I heard the Arizona Attorney Generals Office was investigating him.

I get so many invites to various educational seminars. Why is it, no "Investigate 9/11!" seminars have popped in my inbox or post? I wonder if they'd offer continuing educational credits?
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That's really weird - about the dry cleaner. I'll have to ask my audiophile friends about this and see if they remember him.

Maybe we should propose a new ASHRAE technical committee on 9/11?
 
ref said:
Ae911truth welcomes a new member, an 85 year old expert of air conditioning systems, Marx Ayres.

(snip)

"Mr. Ayres is a nationally recognized expert in building air conditioning design and analysis, energy conservation, thermal energy storage, commissioning of HVAC systems, and earthquake damage to building mechanical systems"

(snip)

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In one of the Youtube twoofer food-fights I participate in, his name was dropped this morning. However, I noticed an interesting discrepancy between the ae911 website and Ayres' own webpage. ae911 states:

"Mr. Ayres has been in responsible charge of the design of hundreds of major building projects, including high rise offices...."

His own quote gives the same impression:

"... 55 years of experience in the design and construction of all types of buildings including high-rise office towers."

Yet his own website tells a different, and less misleading, tale:

"Over fifty five years experience in the design analysis and
construction of mechanical service systems for all types of
buildings and facilities. Expert in heating, ventilating and air
conditioning (HVAC), plumbing and fire protection systems."

His bio is equally interesting:

"J. Marx Ayres ...born in Pomona, California. November 28, 1922. His father was a Presbyterian minister who became a Socialist and then a Communist. His mother was a noted sculptor and painter. Mr. Ayres ( named after Karl Marx ) and his three brothers and two sisters grew up in Southern California, primarily in Inglewood and Redondo Beach."

"He graduated from the University of California, Berkeley ..."

Considering his work for the 1948(!) Wallace campaign & active work in the chorus of the California Labor School, one can safely assume he holds no real love for any conservative administration.

The careful elimination of the phrase that points out his obvious credential limitations is ... well, not exactly surprising for ae911.

Aside from commenting on the damage to the WTC HVAC or plumbing systems, his opinion is just slightly more meaningful than that of my proctologist.

Though irrelevant & silly, I'm intensely curious to know the given names of his five "Red Diaper Baby" siblings. Trotsky? ... Vladimir Ilyitch? ... Julius & Ethel?

Inquiring minds want to know.... :D
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Sorry for messing up that quote portion in the last post. I think I snipped out something critical somewhere.
 
JonnyFive said:
Well, by those standards I guess I'm a "poop engineer." I'm very regularly tasked with the design and manufacture of poop.

I have an important "project" I need to work on today*.
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I rent out a few hundred portable toilets as a little retirement business, and have several guys who go around to pump them out weekly. We've always jokingly referred to them as Sewage Technicians, but I believe it's time to upgrade their job descriptions to ... Fecal Engineer, or Fecal Management Engineer.

They're bright guys, and probably far more analytically sophisticated than most of Gage's cabal of fruitcakes.

As far as the lady who works in F-16 customer support -- I notice that the world "engineering" appears in her description for ae911, but NOT on the page where she describes her job. It apparently was just added to lend an aura of technical expertise to what in all probability is just another "customer support" job, with any educational requirements highly speculative.

I wonder if Jesus will turn her into an alien, too.
 
Revolutionary91 said:
When Markyx discovered this he could have simply emailed Mr Gage and told him. Instead, he started a thread here encouraging everyone to sign up under false names. Childish and attention seeking.
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"Childish and attention-seeking" --- and of course none of the phonies on ae911 could EVER be accused of that, could they?

Or like Ronald Avery, who was turned into an intergalactic alien by Jesus, personally.

Or Marx Ayres, whose initial fluffy press announcement by ae911 conveniently left out a critical part of his bio that qualified his experience to only designing MECHANICAL SYSTEMS of buildings, not the buildings themselves.

Thus far I am not exactly impressed by either the honesty or the maturity level displayed by ae911 itself, or some of its members.
 
Welcome, MSgtWeiss :)

I somehow missed your posts until now. Yes, they give a very false impression in the ae911 site. But us true researchers found the truth immediately :p He is no building designer indeed. He is a building systems designer.
 
T.A.M. said:
Welcome to the Forum MSgtWeiss.

TAM:)
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Many thanks -- I'm a long-time fan, having used "Flim-Flam" back in my Pentagon days to sabotage a later proposal by "The Laurel & Hardy of Psi."

This forum has been invaluable in furnishing me ammunition for my current hobby: raising hell with the conspiracy zombies who infest the YouTube world. Most are quite insane, but I believe we have some obligation to challenge them just so that the gullible at least hear the other side.

There are still many JREF threads I have yet to go through completely, but I've learned enough so far to get banned by a number of YouTube posters so far:D .
 
einsteen said:
Was it really difficult to find an opponent, I can't imagine it ?

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John Rexroat (Mfr. Engineer)[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Richard Ricci (Ironworker)[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]William Rice (P.E., Structural Engineer)[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Graham Richardson (Building services)[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Bruce Richey (AIA | Architect)[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Gene Robinson (BS, Industrial engineer)[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mark Robinson (BS Mechanical Engineering)[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Dominique Roddier (PhD, Naval Architect)[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Jeff Rogers (MS ME, Engineer)[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Tim Rohach (PE, MS ME, Mechanical Engineer)[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Michael A. Rose (B Arch, Architect, ret.)[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Gordon Ross (Mechanical engineering, Production engineering)[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Joe Rowling (Architectural staff)[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Henry Rozumski (Aerospace Engineer / Analyst)[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Kevin Ryan (BS Chemistry, Certified Quality Engineer)[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mojgan Saberi (BS Arch., Designer)[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Micah Saichek (Chemistry)[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mike Schmidt (BSGE, Project Manager)[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Jörg Schneider (Dr hc, Structural Dynamics, Earthquake Engineering)[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John F. Shanahan (PE, Electrical Engineer)[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Frank Shap (BS EE, Engineer)[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]A.J. James Shieck (Architectural Technologist)[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John Shinn (PhD, Chemical Engineer)[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Wendy Sitler (Architectural Designer)[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Jason Smith (Environmental engineering)[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Joseph Smith (BSEE, Electrical Engineer)[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John Sotelo (BSME, MD, Mechanical Engineer)[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Tom Spellman (BA Architecture, Civil Engineer)[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Rob Steinhofer (MS Mechanical Engineering)[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Michael E. Stephens (PE, BS Geological Engineering)[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Arthur Stopes (Architectural Planner)[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Jeffrey G. Strahl (BS, ME, Mechanical Engineer)[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mike Swenson (PhD, Structural Engineer)[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Chris Swigert (Architect)[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Tony Szamboti (BS Mechanical Engineering)[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Jeffrey Tam (Architectural Professional)[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Robert Tamaki (M.A.Sc., P.Eng., Civil Engineer)[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Edwin Michael Taylor (EIT, Engineering Consultant)[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]William D. Taylor (BS Engineering, PE)[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Joseph Testa (PE, Civil Engineer)[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Magnus Thompson (Engineering staff)[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Jasper Tomlinson (MA(Oxon) CEnv MCIWEM, Environmental and Water Resources Engineer)[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Henri Tso (Architectural Professional)[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Roger Twede (Engineering staff)[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Gregory Urich (BS Electrical Engineering, Software Engineer)[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Osvaldo Valdes (Architect)[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Arnold A. Valdez (M. Arch, Designer/Planner)[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Enzo Valenzetti (PhD Civil Engineering)[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Travis Van Brasch (Associate AIA, Design Principal)[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Michael Voschine (PhD, Structural Engineer)[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Kris Wagner (MSc Mechanical Engineering)[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Arnold B. Walker (BS Tool & Manufacturing Technology, Mechanical Engineer, ret.)[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Jacob Weed (Architect)[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]David Wilkins (Electrical Engineer)[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Jason Wilkinson (Architectural Professional)[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Grant Williams (Construction engineer incl. seismic, structural engineering)[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Ron Wilson (BS Electrical Engineering)[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Doyle Winterton (BES, Structural Engineer, ret.)[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Torin Wolf (Building construction contractor, certified structural welder, certified asbestos and hazardous materials worker, experienced demolitions expert)[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Elwin Wong (Architectural Professional)[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Ian Woods (BLA, Landscape Architecture)[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Kurt Worthington (Urban Planner)[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Ken Wrenn (Civil Engineer)[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Wayne Young (BS Civil Engineering)[/FONT]


ps. this was the first hit of a google find. An incomplete and retired list
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It was more than hard--it was impossible.

Your bogus list contains the usual frauds, fools, liars, and charlatans. You should have looked at the names before making yourself appear ridiculous. Torin Wolf and William Rice?? A total fraud and a guy in his eighties who knows absolutely nothing about the events of 9/11.
 
Cameron Porter (PhD, Mechanical Engineer)

It's a fake name of a member here (I can point out others). That list is a joke
 
Of course, but some of them are from prestigious universities and institutes. Wouldn't it be interesting to get those people ? Not the Judy Woods, that's killing a muskito with a cannon. Scheuerman is of course a great man, but he is talking to the walls.
 
DGM said:
Cameron Porter (PhD, Mechanical Engineer)

It's a fake name of a member here (I can point out others). That list is a joke
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Are you saying that members of this forum are pretending to be engineers on the internet? That figures!
 
DGM said:
Cameron Porter (PhD, Mechanical Engineer)

It's a fake name of a member here (I can point out others). That list is a joke
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As I said this was the first google hit, it's not my list, the point is that there are enough qualified people questioning the collapse. If you want them you can get them, if you don't get them wait or don't make a show.
 
einsteen said:
Of course, but some of them are from prestigious universities and institutes. Wouldn't it be interesting to get those people ? Not the Judy Woods, that's killing a muskito with a cannon. Scheuerman is of course a great man, but he is talking to the walls.
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Sure, Where are these people now? I have never heard anything new or insightfully from any of them(minus the usual cast of characters). Have you?
 
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Of course, but some of them are from prestigious universities and institutes. Wouldn't it be interesting to get those people ?
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Such as.....?

JHarrow said:
Are you saying that members of this forum are pretending to be engineers on the internet? That figures!
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Yeah it was a test to see if the folks at AE911 would make the slightest effort to screen applicants for their little club.

Needless to say, they didn't.
 
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Never saw that coming.

Face it, the only people proven to be impersonating engineers are skeptics. Says it all
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Wow! That's fascinating! You don't intend to name a rationalist who has impersonated an engineer, do you?

Of course I'm kidding!
 
pomeroo said:
Wow! That's fascinating! You don't intend to name a rationalist who has impersonated an engineer, do you?

Of course I'm kidding!
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He just admitted that skeptics here pretended to be engineers to "test" AE911truths system.
 
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