[Merged]All religions are idiocy

[Hokulele]

Maybe you should just get out of the thread

What?! And miss out on yet another chance to redefine "religion"? Not on your life.

 

[Tsukasa Buddha]

I think that your religion comprises of your core beliefs and values pertaining to the world and your place in it that effect the way you live your life. For me, Agnostic Zen Humanism is my religion. I don't think belief in the existence of a god determines whether or not something is a religion.

 

[Smackety]

Yes, in any form at all.

Name one.

I mean believing in any form of god. Which is of course idiocy.

A religion with no god? How about Taoism, or Buddhism?

I don't understand why you think it is idiocy to believe in something when the benefit derived from doing so outweighs the costs?

 

[Ryokan]

If you are an atheist you are not religious. So what is your beef?

I want them to explain, yes. Whether they are insulted or not isn't relevant.

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[DanishDynamite]

Hmm, so you appear to be more concerned with theism than religion. Got it. It would have been helpful if you had worded your OP to indicate such.

Its the same thing, so I don't understand your concern.

BTW, many practicing Shinto priests would be very surprised to find out they are not religious by your definition, as would many practicing animists . . .

I would be surprised too as they are included. And in what sense do you feel they don't belive in some form of god?

ETA: OK, Ryokan beat me to it this time.

Beat you to what?

 

[Normal Dude]

And I have never understood why believers are believers. I hope they can explain here.

Well, after the OP, I'm sure they will be just tickled to explain.

 

[DanishDynamite]

I think that your religion comprises of your core beliefs and values pertaining to the world and your place in it that effect the way you live your life. For me, Agnostic Zen Humanism is my religion. I don't think belief in the existence of a god determines whether or not something is a religion.

It does in this thread.

 

[thaiboxerken]

Well, I'm a Buddhist. Thank you for calling me an idiot...

He's calling religion idiotic. That doesn't mean he's calling you an idiot.

Oops. I spoke too soon.

I'm of the opinion that religion is idiotic while the religious can be intelligent.

 

[DanishDynamite]

A religion with no god? How about Taoism, or Buddhism?

Yes, there are several.

I don't understand why you think it is idiocy to believe in something when the benefit derived from doing so outweighs the costs?

It never does, so that was an easy question.

 

[Ryokan]

It does in this thread.

If you can change definitions to whatever suits you, then discussion is pointless.

Danes and Norwegians should really be in bed right now. Have a good night.

 

[DanishDynamite]

Well, after the OP, I'm sure they will be just tickled to explain.

I hope they will too.

 

[DanishDynamite]

If you can change definitions to whatever suits you, then discussion is pointless.

Where have I changed definitions?

Danes and Norwegians should really be in bed right now. Have a good night.

You too.

 

[Smackety]

Yes, there are several.

It never does, so that was an easy question.

Never? Are you saying that there is no possibility that for some person somewhere, believing in god is a net positive for their mental state?

 

[DanishDynamite]

Never? Are you saying that there is no possibility that for some person somewhere, believing in god is a net positive for their mental state?

No, that might be possible. His(her) belief would still be pure idiocy, of course.

 

[skeptifem]

lolocaust

 

[Smackety]

No, that might be possible. His(her) belief would still be pure idiocy, of course.

I see, this is semantic. I thought you were using the word idiocy because you really didn't understand why someone would believe, but now I see it is just used as an insult.

 

[DanishDynamite]

I see, this is semantic. I thought you were using the word idiocy because you really didn't understand why someone would believe, but now I see it is just used as an insult.

Whether it is idiotic or not has little to do with whether it would be "a net positive for their mental state" or not.

It is idiotic, period.

 

[Hokulele]

Its the same thing, so I don't understand your concern.

To you, maybe. To them, unlikely.

I would be surprised too as they are included. And in what sense do you feel they don't belive in some form of god?

In the sense that kami translates more to spirit than god.

Beat you to what?

Pointing out that you are redefining religion to suit yourself.

 

[DanishDynamite]

To you, maybe. To them, unlikely.

Let them explain the subtle difference then.

In the sense that kami translates more to spirit than god.

If this spirit can in some way be reached by humans and can in some way affect their lives, then it is God as I define it in this thread.

Pointing out that you are redefining religion to suit yourself.

I'm defining it as I understand most God believers minimum define it.

 

[steverino]

When you have something relevant to contribute, please do so.

What can be less relevant than starting a post, then calling people idiots. And I thought the Danes were supposed to be a tolerant people.