Fidel Castro Resigns as Cuba's Leader

Seriously, I hope this will be catalyst for the next US president to drop the embargo. Trade could be the catalyst for them to finally dump communism.
 
Seriously, I hope this will be catalyst for the next US president to drop the embargo. Trade could be the catalyst for them to finally dump communism.

Could be, but hasn't Raul Castro been effectively running the country for some time? When he took over it was said that he was even more hardline than his brother. So is anything really likely to change, I wonder? It would be nice if it did but I suspect we'll have to wait for the next round of leadership to break things open.
 
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This guy that I know went to Cuba. he first had to go to mexico and from there
he flew to cuba. he told me that cubans only eat 2 times a day.
for breakfast they eat a one(1) hard-boiled egg and a glass of water.
for lunch and dinner(which is anywhere after 4:00pm) they go to the "main house"
with their pocket notebook to get one pound of rice and bean per family member and a
"stamp" in their book. they can't go to another village to get extra food because they already got their little book stamped.
cubans aren't allowed inside the turist hotels but the guy I know invited them over and the hotel manager agreed.
they all ate a steak and what do you know.......some of those cubans were in their 50's and that was their first time eating steak.
I also asked him to ask cubans how they felt about castro and quite interestingly, most of them ARE afraid of his brother and they even believe it was him and not Fidel running the country all along.
I have seen some Cubans on TV where for years, they have always complained about being here in the U.S. and would love to go back to Cuba and open up some bussiness over there.
I would love to open up a steak restaurant myself!
 
Big news. Although sadly, it apparently doesn't mean instant democracy and everyone living happily ever after.
 
Seriously, I hope this will be catalyst for the next US president to drop the embargo. Trade could be the catalyst for them to finally dump communism.

Doesn't the current USA legislation cover both of the brothers?
 
Could be, but hasn't Raul Castro been effectively running the country for some time? When he took over it was said that he was even more hardline than his brother. So is anything really likely to change, I wonder? It would be nice if it did but I suspect we'll have to wait for the next round of leadership to break things open.

He has been running the country, but Fidel has also undercut him on certain issues that he promoted. And the title might not be correct, he will not be the president of Cuba anymore, but that does not mean he will not have some final say in how the country is run.
 
Well, Fidel and I are going to open a chain of Kentucky Fried Chicken shops.

+5 for the reference.

I get +5!!

Suddenly, CIA men dressed in bikinis tried to stab us with fountain pens. Fidel blew mustard gas through his cigar, and immobilized the lot of them.

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No, I didn't look it up. I like this album quite a lot!
 
Communism isn't about "the people" -- that's a ruse to get the masses behind you so you can live the sweet life as a dictator.

With that as a premise, I therefore predict that "brother" will keep things going since he wants to remain in power, unless he's incompetent, in which case someone else will take over.
 
What I thought facinating...was at the close of his message to the people of Cuba, he says he isn't saying farewell, but he will remain a soldier int he battle of ideas. Amazing.

He is a soldier in the battle of his own ideas...everyone elses ideas can be suppressed, bullied, changed by fear or lethargy, so long as Fidel's ideas win out. The battle for ideas means real intellectual, rational discussion. The cry of counter revolutionary as the means of political supression strangles ideas in their incubator.

Cuba will be well rid of him.

At the same time, we must not forget that Castro stands for ultimate Cuban nationalism. He fought the United States and kept them out of Cuba. And than he used that battle to keep control of his people who, in their national pride, are it seems as determined to have Cuban self-determination and a country that isn't the U.S. puppet it was when Castro lead his revolution.

Somehow, we in the U.S. need a new arrangement. I am convinced that our inability to move when it comes to Cuba and Castro -- i.e. perpetual embargo -- has resulted in the solidifying the regime and its long life. It is difficult to believe that were relations and trade normalized -- even more or less on Castro's terms -- that there wouldn't be more dissent. Young people exposed to more ideas and the inequities in Cuban life as well as the possiblities of a borader world. Rap music, skateboards and tourists would have a far more profound effect on the futuer of the Cuban revolution than gunboats and threats, IMO.
 
This guy that I know went to Cuba. he first had to go to mexico and from there
he flew to cuba. he told me that cubans only eat 2 times a day.
for breakfast they eat a one(1) hard-boiled egg and a glass of water.
for lunch and dinner(which is anywhere after 4:00pm) they go to the "main house"
with their pocket notebook to get one pound of rice and bean per family member and a
"stamp" in their book. they can't go to another village to get extra food because they already got their little book stamped.
cubans aren't allowed inside the turist hotels but the guy I know invited them over and the hotel manager agreed.
they all ate a steak and what do you know.......some of those cubans were in their 50's and that was their first time eating steak.

"This guy you know" sounds like he is 100% full of it.
Just idly wondering, anyone know how many dictators actually make it to retirement age? Wouldn't think it would be too high a number. And what does one get a retiring dictator? In this case I am thinking cigars would be a waste of time. A gold hand grenade perhaps?
 
Haven't been myself but those I know who have gone say it is a cracking place and it would be great if they did loosen their stays a tad and got with it. The embargo only ever hurt the ordinary people not the leaders.

Certainly, if the US embargo was lifted there would be an influx of dollars to the island - it is potentially quite a market. That said has the embargo had as much of an impact in recent years - say the last decade or so? Cuba is a popular holiday destination for Europeans and the rise of S American leaders like Chavez who are happy to trade with Cuba also circumvent a lot of the restrictions. I think it is possible to see cars of more recent vintage than 1957 these days.

Even if Raul is just as hard line as Fidel he is not that much younger.
 
Well this clearly means that the embargo worked. It only took 45 years. The Cuban people MUST be dancing in the street, embracing capitalism, and waving American flags by now. I'm sure CNN will post those photos on its website momentarily...

*Cough*

Um? Hello?

Maybe they have bandwidth problems?
 
Haven't been myself but those I know who have gone say it is a cracking place and it would be great if they did loosen their stays a tad and got with it. The embargo only ever hurt the ordinary people not the leaders.

There is already a rather large influx of dollars, by all the cubans in america sending money to family.
 
Just idly wondering, anyone know how many dictators actually make it to retirement age? Wouldn't think it would be too high a number. And what does one get a retiring dictator? In this case I am thinking cigars would be a waste of time. A gold hand grenade perhaps?

The only dictator I can think of who retired more or less out of his own free will is Augusto Pinochet. He held a referendum on his position, lost, and stepped down. Sure, he stepped down to a cushy job with full immunity from prosecution, but he did step down. Your typical Amin, Mao, Tito, Hitler, Stalin, Ceaucescu, Duvalier, or Kim either gets driven out by force or holds on to power until his dying breath.

(Let me just add that this is not an endorsement of Pinochet in any way, although I do wonder why his name is so often uttered in the same breath as Hitler or Stalin. Sure, he was not a nice guy, but as far as rotten dictators go, he's a Honecker, not a Stalin.)
 
I am waiting to see what sort of comment Venezuela's Chavez has to say.
 

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