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Stephen Jones' WTC Dust Sample

R.Mackey said:
Aren't you supposed to be working on a hypothesis? What's taking so long?
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Didn't I address this question the last time you asked me? Wasn't that yesterday, or the day before?

We aren't all capable of being rocket scientists, making new inventions, writing 200 page white reports, and posting on JREF on a daily basis.

Geesh, some of us are mere humans don't you know.....
 
Sizzler said:
Didn't I address this question the last time you asked me? Wasn't that yesterday, or the day before?

We aren't all capable of being rocket scientists, making new inventions, writing 200 page white reports, and posting on JREF on a daily basis.

Geesh, some of us are mere humans don't you know.....
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So between working towards proving the biggest conspiracy in modern history and posting on jref . . . posting on jref is more important. Got it.
 
Sizzler said:
Didn't I address this question the last time you asked me? Wasn't that yesterday, or the day before?

We aren't all capable of being rocket scientists, making new inventions, writing 200 page white reports, and posting on JREF on a daily basis.

Geesh, some of us are mere humans don't you know.....
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I'm merely suggesting to you that, if it takes you over a week to come up with a hypothesis, no matter how speculative, of what you think happened, then you might want to think about switching sides.

The "official story" isn't nearly so counter-intuitive.
 
Crazy Chainsaw said:
R. Mackey, your a rocket Scientist tell me what would be wrong with attaching a rocket engine to a steel beam and not leaving a trace of the attachment mechanism.

Of vaporized Iron oxide behind, do you think it is possible to produce a high pressure oxygen jet at a temperature that could oxidize steel in seconds not not leave noticeable evidence of vaporized iron oxide behind?
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Kind of an odd pair of questions. Rocket engines -- traditional ones -- tend to be hard to mount. Load-bearing, off-axis, thin-walled chambers, etc. It'd be highly unusual to attach one in a reversible way, let alone one that left no traces.

That hot oxygen jet of yours is bound to leave pretty startling thermal effects elsewhere, particularly if you're oxidizing steel, or for that matter pumping it into a burning environment. Oxygen plus a mere burning cigarette will get your attention... It'd probably be visible for miles. I'm sure you've thought of that already.
 
Holy (rule10). I have a better 9/11 story than MacKinlay's.

True story: I met my future wife for the first time on 9/11 as I was searching the Internet chats for news. She was doing the same thing; we started talking, one thing led to another, as they say, and we've been married close to four years now.

Maybe I should sell the book rights.

Killer Cloud. *snort*
 
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R.Mackey said:
I'm merely suggesting to you that, if it takes you over a week to come up with a hypothesis, no matter how speculative, of what you think happened, then you might want to think about switching sides.

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I don't know if you read my other post. Again, I haven't had a lot of time to work on the hypothesis because I am in the process of making a transition back to N.A. (visa for the gf, selling possessions, finding work back home, etc etc etc).

Nonetheless, it will be posted.

R.Mackey said:
The "official story" isn't nearly so counter-intuitive
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I completely disagree with you here. In my opinion, the "official story" is more counter-intuitive than anything I have ever known. But I guess we'll have to agree to disagree at least until I get that hypothesis written.:)
 
Sizzler: That word, "counter-intuitive." You use it, but I think you do not know what it means.

We need an Inigo Montoya smiley.
 
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R.Mackey said:
Kind of an odd pair of questions. Rocket engines -- traditional ones -- tend to be hard to mount. Load-bearing, off-axis, thin-walled chambers, etc. It'd be highly unusual to attach one in a reversible way, let alone one that left no traces.

That hot oxygen jet of yours is bound to leave pretty startling thermal effects elsewhere, particularly if you're oxidizing steel, or for that matter pumping it into a burning environment. Oxygen plus a mere burning cigarette will get your attention... It'd probably be visible for miles. I'm sure you've thought of that already.
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Exactly what I discovered when I tested it, it was so bright it burned out my new cameras photo resisters.
I take a picture with it and all I get is black.

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Do not ask me what the oxidant was because I am not telling that for safety reasons it is crazy to use it, I only had one currently available to me and it is unsafe if not handled correctly.

Dr. Jones theories are based on instantious oxygen cutting of steel, only problem his devices are to hot they do not just cut the steel they produce vaporized iron oxide that would be the devices finger print.
Dr. Jones did not know that because he has never tested a working device that can do what he claims, was done.
 
Crazy Chainsaw said:
Exactly what I discovered when I tested it, it was so bright it burned out my new cameras photo resisters.
I take a picture with it and all I get is black.
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This probably won't do any good, but please, try to remain safe. What you've got is not only a thermal and chemical hazard, but also a severe eye hazard. Even welding goggles might not be enough for such a vicious device.

Crazy Chainsaw said:
Do not ask me what the oxidant was because I am not telling that for safety reasons it is crazy to use it, I only had one currently available to me and it is unsafe if not handled correctly.
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I won't ask, I can probably guess.

I also still would like to see you team up with an academic. Sounds like you may have some patentable material here, apart from the raw combustion research.
 
R.Mackey said:
This probably won't do any good, but please, try to remain safe. What you've got is not only a thermal and chemical hazard, but also a severe eye hazard. Even welding goggles might not be enough for such a vicious device.

Exactly why I was using a remote digital camera, I did not want to risk my own eyes and body.

I won't ask, I can probably guess.

I also still would like to see you team up with an academic. Sounds like you may have some patentable material here, apart from the raw combustion research.
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I know just have to find a safe oxidant, one that is thermally produced without having to keep it frozen for safety reasons. Right now I can not use the device unless the temperature is around or below 32F, and I prefer using it only when the outside temperature is in the teens and low twenties.
A more stable oxidant would be great.
I am also out of the ceramic bricks that I used for the body of the device I have to find some more of those, hard though at least until the next 20 year relining of the big river power plant where I got the last ones.
 
boloboffin said:
Sizzler: That word, "counter-intuitive." You use it, but I think you do not know what it means.

We need an Inigo Montoya smiley.
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I think he means the 9/11 truth movement is counterintelligence; oops I mean counter to intelligence. Or something

But what ever he means Jones is a fraud and his thermite theory is not only counterintuitive but an out right lie by Jones, unless Jones is plain dirt dumb.
 
BenBurch said:
CC,

What R. Mackey said. Doubled.

I nearly died several times as a child and teen playing with rocket fuels, and you've been lucky so far.

-Ben
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I know, I do not even know if this Idea is practical in the current device, however it scares the C$%P out of me the way the device is configured in the current design.
However it is not as scary as the time I shot myself out over a lake with dynamite and a 55 gallion steel oil drum.
That had to have been the stupidest thing I have ever done. I did learn an important lession though, Human bodys skip like rocks on the waters surface tension, it is just rocks do not feel the stinging pain.
Red headed young teenage women, in little tight bikinis can make young teenage men do very stupid things.
I have always believed that women would kill me before explosives, I have had the same luck it seems with both. Only Women seem more dangerous.
That is my only conspiracy theory base on years of research.
BenBurch I agree with you one hundred percent, safety first in this no good having a patent if I can not have the benefits that come with it.
 
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