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Stephen Jones' WTC Dust Sample

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The World Trade Center Dust and the Message of its Iron-rich Microspheres The provenience of the dust sample used in my study is from an apartment at 113 Cedar St. in New York City. This fourth-floor apartment was the residence of Janette MacKinlay, and wasapproximately 100 meters or so from the closest Tower, the South Tower. During the collapse of theSouth Tower on 9/11/2001, the windows of this apartment broke and the apartment was flooded withdust. About a week later, she re-entered the apartment and began clean-up and preserved some of thedust in her apartment.In this way, the dust represents a snapshot of the WTC collapse, for the dust came from thecollapsing Towers and was collected before much clean-up began. Even though the Towers weresome distance away, too far for any significant debris from the clean-up operations which were justbeginning to accidentally contaminate the apartment, yet they were close enough for the windows tobreak due to the debris of the South Tower collapse and for the apartment to be filled with collapse-generated dust.Janette told me that she had a sense, almost a spiritual or reverential feeling (knowing theorigin of the dust) to preserve some of it, which she did, placing dust from her apartment into a plasticbag. My first 9/11-related paper appeared on-line in November 2005, and Janette MacKinlay soonlearned from it that I was seeking WTC dust and other samples for study. She contacted me and sentme a small sample by mail. Later, I traveled to her new residence in California and obtained a secondsmall sample in the presence of other scientists.

http://wtc.nist.gov/media/JonesWTC911SciMethod.pdf p22
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I was wondering where Jones got that WTC dust sample he analyzed and, oddly, I found the answer on the NIST site. Despite his claim that the dust is a ‘snapshot of the WTC collapse,’ what do you think are the chances of contamination, especially on the second sample acquired later in California?
 
Walter Ego said:
Despite his claim that the dust is a ‘snapshot of the WTC collapse,’ what do you think are the chances of contamination, especially on the second sample acquired later in California?
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Uhh, 100%. It flew through at least 100 meters of dusty air into a dusty apartment.
 
Not to mention that her boyfriend was a sculptor who did some of the WTC memorials, probably working with welding equipment.
 
It is just a bunch of dust. i thought you guys didn't care about dust hymm..?

Dust couldn't possibly provide the direct evidence needed by the truth scientists could it?
 
Sizzler said:
It is just a bunch of dust. i thought you guys didn't care about dust hymm..?

Dust couldn't possibly provide the direct evidence needed by the truth scientists could it?
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Show me a truth Scientist involved with the truth movement, that would be a contradiction in terms from what I have seen.
 
Sizzler said:
It is just a bunch of dust. i thought you guys didn't care about dust hymm..?

Dust couldn't possibly provide the direct evidence needed by the truth scientists could it?
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I asked the question because I curious where about where Jones got his sample and how ‘pure’ it was. That is important. Not that I’m suggesting MacKinlay spiked the sample but the fact that the dust was in a apartment that was vacant for a week after 9-11 (with the broken window still not repaired?) and the other sample of dust was transported to California before Jones got it does raise questions about how ‘pure’ it was.
 
8den said:
Ryan, after all these years, and all these lies you're surprised at how dubious lies and farcial behaviour of steven jones.
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I guess I should have seen it coming, but that one takes the cake. Not only that he should have some vague notion that dust from inside a metalworkers' apartment just might be abnormal, but also that there appears to be a profit motive here...

Absolutely amazing. Again, it raises the question, gross stupidity or willful attempt to deceive? People do all kinds of crazy things, so I honestly can't tell.
 
R.Mackey said:
I guess I should have seen it coming, but that one takes the cake. Not only that he should have some vague notion that dust from inside a metalworkers' apartment just might be abnormal, but also that there appears to be a profit motive here...

Absolutely amazing. Again, it raises the question, gross stupidity or willful attempt to deceive? People do all kinds of crazy things, so I honestly can't tell.
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Are you joking me? This takes the cake? Got speculation?
 
R.Mackey said:
I guess I should have seen it coming, but that one takes the cake. Not only that he should have some vague notion that dust from inside a metalworkers' apartment just might be abnormal, but also that there appears to be a profit motive here...

Absolutely amazing. Again, it raises the question, gross stupidity or willful attempt to deceive? People do all kinds of crazy things, so I honestly can't tell.
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Interestingly, MacKinlay allows herself to be billed as a ‘survivor.’

Janette MacKinlay
Author of Fortunate, a Personal Diary of 9/11.

As a survivor, Janette continues to come to grips with the traumatizing experiences of being in her apt. directly across from the WTC, as Tower Two collapsed and the toxic cloud of dust and debris burst through her windows. Her recovery has been one of art and activism. More info can be found on her website www.theneedtoremember.com

She began to question the 9/ll Commission Report, because it's lack of accountability and is now a driving force in the "9/11 Accountability Conference" as she believes the evidence is overwhelming and we must demand accountability.

http://911truthaz.org/911phxconf07/...php?page=program_agenda#bio_janette_mackinlay
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If you go to her website, you can read her ‘survival’ story… and buy her book and some art while you’re there.


The morning of September 11, 2001, found us in our 4th floor loft at 110 Liberty St. watching history unfold before our eyes. Not wanting to become part of the hysteria and panic, we remained inside our loft; never imagining the towers would collapse. Jim was capturing the event with his digital camera as I prepared to evacuate by organizing important papers and possessions. After completing that task, I cleaned the apt. so when we returned everything would be in perfect condition. My last task was to change the water in my flower arrangements and freshen them up. Jim watched the South Tower begin its descent, and ran across the loft, yelling at me, "Get out of here, the building is coming down." We were on our way into our hallway, when the force of the debris cloud, traveling at 50 mph, burst our window and flooded our place with dust and debris.

We immediately headed for the rear exit, only to be stopped in our tracks, by that Killer Cloud, roaring down the street. We returned to our apt. for wet towels to breath through, and after the cloud had passed were able to escape out a rear exit. So began my life as a 9/ll survivor.

We stayed in New York for five weeks in a hotel provided by the Red Cross. This gave me the opportunity to return to our loft and rescue pieces of art, as well as my treasured vase collection.

http://www.theneedtoremember.com/artist.html
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R.Mackey said:
I guess I should have seen it coming, but that one takes the cake. Not only that he should have some vague notion that dust from inside a metalworkers' apartment just might be abnormal, but also that there appears to be a profit motive here...

Absolutely amazing. Again, it raises the question, gross stupidity or willful attempt to deceive? People do all kinds of crazy things, so I honestly can't tell.
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I know, it just takes your breath away at the sheer mendacity of these liars.
 
R.Mackey said:
I guess I should have seen it coming, but that one takes the cake. Not only that he should have some vague notion that dust from inside a metalworkers' apartment just might be abnormal, but also that there appears to be a profit motive here...

Absolutely amazing. Again, it raises the question, gross stupidity or willful attempt to deceive? People do all kinds of crazy things, so I honestly can't tell.
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R. Mackey, your a rocket Scientist tell me what would be wrong with attaching a rocket engine to a steel beam and not leaving a trace of the attachment mechanism.

Of vaporized Iron oxide behind, do you think it is possible to produce a high pressure oxygen jet at a temperature that could oxidize steel in seconds not not leave noticeable evidence of vaporized iron oxide behind?

I just wanted to give you the real ideas behind the thermite theories, yes a device can be built to do this but it leaves one great big foot print behind. One you could notice just by looking at the Columns from hundreds of feet away.
 
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