TrueSceptic
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Hi everyone.
I'm new here and thought I'd start with this little list I've built up after being in a couple of climate change/global warming forums and reading messages at quite a few more.
I make no claim to this list being exhaustive and say nothing about the contents. I have seen all these claims, or variations of them, made quite often, and that applies to the behaviour described in bold type too.
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You might wonder if you should be a Global Warming Sceptic and I thought it might be useful to show you how easy it is.
Just choose any combination of the following beliefs.
Don't worry if you choose the "wrong" ones to start with: you can change any time and as often as you like.
Don't worry if your choices contradict one another or any that you had previously.
If any of your claims are shown to be false or irrelevant, don't apologise or even admit it: just move onto another one!
Go back to ones previously discredited whenever you like.
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Global Warming is a creation of the media and they keep ramming it down our throats.
Global Warming is just a scare tactic thought up by governments to make us use less coal and oil.
Governments don't really believe it or they would ban thirsty cars.
Belief in GW is a religion with fanatical followers. It is almost impossible to reason with them.
Anyone who doesn't believe in the GW consensus is a heretic. Heretics are usually right in the end. Just look at Galileo and Darwin.
In the 1970s climate scientists said that we were heading into an Ice Age. Why should we believe them now?
Weather forecasters can't predict the weather a week in advance so how can anyone predict the climate 10, 20, or 50 years ahead?
GW is a conspiracy created by the left-green elite to tax and control us all.
Climate scientists are part of this conspiracy. They all know one other so they can get away with this quite easily.
The scientists invented the GW theory so they can keep getting research grants.
Other scientists, and especially the national bodies such as the Royal Society and the US National Academy of Sciences, are part of the conspiracy.
Most scientists are honest. The real conspiracy is in the IPCC, which distorts and misrepresents their work for ideological reasons. There is no real scientific consensus.
Climate models are just a collection of formulae tweaked to produce results that are close to measurements.
Climate models might be based on physics but it's all so uncertain that the results are meaningless.
It's not getting warmer at all. The figures and graphs produced by the climate scientists are all doctored and can't be trusted.
The figures don't need to be doctored: lots of the weather stations are unreliable. Garbage in, garbage out.
The warming seems to have levelled off so the figures and graphs might be OK after all.
China is having the coldest winter for 50 years so obviously GW can't be happening.
Temperatures have stopped increasing so GW must be a hoax.
It has got warmer but it's nothing to do with us. It's all to do with natural cycles.
It was much warmer millions of years ago and we weren't around then so how can we be the cause now?
The Medieval Warm Period was at least as warm as it is now. The Vikings colonised Greenland and grapes were grown in Britain.
Mars has been getting warmer too, so it must be something outside the Earth.
It's electrical heating caused by the solar wind interacting with the Earth's magnetic field.
It's caused by increases in the sun's output.
It's all to do with sunspots. Or cosmic rays.
It's caused by changes in the Earth's core.
The so-called greenhouse gases don't cause warming. It's a lie told by the scientists. What really happens is that the temperature rises first and the CO2 follows.
It can't be caused by greenhouse gases because they are only a small part of the atmosphere and can't have much effect.
Cows produce more greenhouse gas than anything we do.
CO2 is measured on Mauna Loa, an active volcano that spews out CO2, so how can the measurements be accurate?
Volcanoes produce more CO2 each year than all the factories and cars and planes and other sources of man-made carbon dioxide put together so how can we make any difference?
Greenhouse gases are the cause and global warming is a good thing. More CO2 means that plants will grow faster and who likes being cold? We should increase CO2 output!
Global warming is happening but we have no idea if it will be a good or bad thing. We should just wait and see.
Global warming is happening and it's mainly our fault but we can't do anything about it anyway. Even if we cut our emissions, China and India will more than make up the difference.
I'm new here and thought I'd start with this little list I've built up after being in a couple of climate change/global warming forums and reading messages at quite a few more.
I make no claim to this list being exhaustive and say nothing about the contents. I have seen all these claims, or variations of them, made quite often, and that applies to the behaviour described in bold type too.
---
You might wonder if you should be a Global Warming Sceptic and I thought it might be useful to show you how easy it is.
Just choose any combination of the following beliefs.
Don't worry if you choose the "wrong" ones to start with: you can change any time and as often as you like.
Don't worry if your choices contradict one another or any that you had previously.
If any of your claims are shown to be false or irrelevant, don't apologise or even admit it: just move onto another one!
Go back to ones previously discredited whenever you like.
----
Global Warming is a creation of the media and they keep ramming it down our throats.
Global Warming is just a scare tactic thought up by governments to make us use less coal and oil.
Governments don't really believe it or they would ban thirsty cars.
Belief in GW is a religion with fanatical followers. It is almost impossible to reason with them.
Anyone who doesn't believe in the GW consensus is a heretic. Heretics are usually right in the end. Just look at Galileo and Darwin.
In the 1970s climate scientists said that we were heading into an Ice Age. Why should we believe them now?
Weather forecasters can't predict the weather a week in advance so how can anyone predict the climate 10, 20, or 50 years ahead?
GW is a conspiracy created by the left-green elite to tax and control us all.
Climate scientists are part of this conspiracy. They all know one other so they can get away with this quite easily.
The scientists invented the GW theory so they can keep getting research grants.
Other scientists, and especially the national bodies such as the Royal Society and the US National Academy of Sciences, are part of the conspiracy.
Most scientists are honest. The real conspiracy is in the IPCC, which distorts and misrepresents their work for ideological reasons. There is no real scientific consensus.
Climate models are just a collection of formulae tweaked to produce results that are close to measurements.
Climate models might be based on physics but it's all so uncertain that the results are meaningless.
It's not getting warmer at all. The figures and graphs produced by the climate scientists are all doctored and can't be trusted.
The figures don't need to be doctored: lots of the weather stations are unreliable. Garbage in, garbage out.
The warming seems to have levelled off so the figures and graphs might be OK after all.
China is having the coldest winter for 50 years so obviously GW can't be happening.
Temperatures have stopped increasing so GW must be a hoax.
It has got warmer but it's nothing to do with us. It's all to do with natural cycles.
It was much warmer millions of years ago and we weren't around then so how can we be the cause now?
The Medieval Warm Period was at least as warm as it is now. The Vikings colonised Greenland and grapes were grown in Britain.
Mars has been getting warmer too, so it must be something outside the Earth.
It's electrical heating caused by the solar wind interacting with the Earth's magnetic field.
It's caused by increases in the sun's output.
It's all to do with sunspots. Or cosmic rays.
It's caused by changes in the Earth's core.
The so-called greenhouse gases don't cause warming. It's a lie told by the scientists. What really happens is that the temperature rises first and the CO2 follows.
It can't be caused by greenhouse gases because they are only a small part of the atmosphere and can't have much effect.
Cows produce more greenhouse gas than anything we do.
CO2 is measured on Mauna Loa, an active volcano that spews out CO2, so how can the measurements be accurate?
Volcanoes produce more CO2 each year than all the factories and cars and planes and other sources of man-made carbon dioxide put together so how can we make any difference?
Greenhouse gases are the cause and global warming is a good thing. More CO2 means that plants will grow faster and who likes being cold? We should increase CO2 output!
Global warming is happening but we have no idea if it will be a good or bad thing. We should just wait and see.
Global warming is happening and it's mainly our fault but we can't do anything about it anyway. Even if we cut our emissions, China and India will more than make up the difference.
