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So when does Paul drop out?

My opinion is that Ron Paul is only in this to get the Libertarian message out (like Tancredo was in the race to get the illegal immigrant message out). But, if they actually said that, they would not get the funding they needed (or if they said it later, they could get charged with some kind of fraud or misrepresentation).

So regardless of his chances, he will stay in the race until:

1) The money runs out, or
2) They feel it is time to turn their support over to the candidate they want to win over the others
 
MaGZ said:
The is still an opening for Ron Paul as a third party candidate. With McCain likely to win the Republican nomination, Ron Paul can now present himself to the voters as the conservative alternative.
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I don't think that Ron Paul can present himself as the "conservative" alternative because most "conservatives" disagree with him pretty strongly on if nothing else the war. But paleoconservatives could probably like him. (The Alabama Constitution Party has endorsed Ron Paul, for instance.) I still think that if Ron Paul runs as a third party candidate he could, in principle, break into that vaulted 1% realm.

(Although I admit I have the ulterior motives that even though I hate Ron Paul, I want him or someone like him to be able to provide a counter-spoiler so that the Green Party can do their thing without worrying about giving the election to the Republicans.)
 
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As others I am sure have commented, RP will likely go all the way to the convention out of spite. His followers will have it no other way.

The twisted apple does not fall far from the twisted tree.

TAM:)
 
T.A.M. said:
As others I am sure have commented, RP will likely go all the way to the convention out of spite. His followers will have it no other way.

The twisted apple does not fall far from the twisted tree.

TAM:)
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I agree. Especially if Romney and Huckabee have dropped out by then.

Does anyone know the rules of conventions? If Ron Paul goes into the convention with his handful of delegates, does someone get to give a nominating speech for him? I think Paul would use any publicity he can get at the convention to launch his Libertarian Party run.
 
Hokulele said:
Gah, our Republican caucus is this week, and the Ron Paul ads have just started on local TV broadcasts.
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Ours was last night, and I saw my first RP TV spot at 8:30 P.M, well past the time it could do any good. Not what I would call a prudent expenditure.
 
NeoRicen said:
Well Ron Paul has performed HORRIBLY. Will he drop out after the Super Tuesday is over and done with?

I can't see any reason why he'd keep going, at this point he can't even influence the convention at all.
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Like most nuts, Paul is a dead-ender. He'll never quit. Why would he? You get idiots to send you money, you get to be on TV, etc. The alternative is to go back to complete anonymity.
 
Wildy said:
Vaulted 1% realm? What kind of screwy system are you guys running?
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I'm partly coyly making fun of some poster (The Central Scrutinizer, I think?) who has liked pointing out that libertarians reliably get "0%" of the vote, in the sense that that's what you get when you round to the nearest percent. If Paul can get 1% of the vote, (technically 0.5% I guess) then libertarians would no longer get 0%. It amounts to absolutely nothing practically speaking, but it's my opinion that people like Ralph Nader (2.7% in 2000) and Ross Perot (18.9% in 1992 and 8.4% in 1996) are definitely of a higher tier of third party candidates than Badnarik (0.3% in 2004) or David Cobb (0.1% in 2004)
 
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See if you guys hadn't revolted and became a constitutional monarchy you too could have a head of state that is chosen for you and her representative appointed.

Then you wouldn't have the current weird system that you have.
 
MaGZ said:
The is still an opening for Ron Paul as a third party candidate. With McCain likely to win the Republican nomination, Ron Paul can now present himself to the voters as the conservative alternative.
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Or maybe "uncommitted" can run and make RP his running mate. :p
 
Wouldn't want a winner winning I suppose....

Video: Here

"Ron Paul won all the debates" because of his resonating message of individual liberty and personal responsibility.

"Ron Paul won all the debates," stated Rudy Giuliani in his speech conceding defeat in the Florida Primary to John McCain. "Government works best when it empowers people to take responsibilities for their own lives.”

T.A.M. As others I am sure have commented, RP will likely go all the way to the convention out of spite. His followers will have it no other way.
The twisted apple does not fall far from the twisted tree.
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Twisted? Due elaborate?
 
Wow, Swing has gone from a almost Marxist Left Wing Position to a Libertarian position overnight.
I find that is not unusual among Paul Supporters. That so many wanted a Paul/Kucinich position is proof that in the end the whole Paul phenemenon is based not on policy,but an almost mindless "Screw The Establishment" mindset.
As for the Paul campaign for the GOP nomination:
It's bleeding demised, it has passed on,it has ceased to be, it's expired and has gone to meet it's Maker,it's a stiff,bereft of life,it's metabolic processes now extinct. It's kicked the bucket,it has shuffled off this mortal coil,ran down the curtain and joined the bleeeding choir invisible.
It is an Ex.Campaign.:D
 
Paul has to be planning to drop...every other candidate made a speech last night or at least had an announcement on their website, nada from Paul. How can you leave your supporters hanging like that after the big dance? Methinks Paul is tired and wants to go home but he feels obligated to spend all the money people have sent him and apparently keep sending despite the impossibly long odds. It's becoming quite cliché to gloat over Paul's catastophe of a campaign, but if the candidate I donated to and campaigned for lost that bad yesterday and didn't have anything to say I would be quite pissed.
 
Dr. Lao said:
Note to all the Paulbots.

TAKE DOWN YOUR DAMNED SIGNS!

most were put up illegally, attached to overpasses, road islands, trees, etc.
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They thought that was some kind of poltical guerilla warfare, I guess.
Here in Sacramento,the cops actually caught some of them at work and they got a fine for illegal posting.They actually posted a few of their signs on Private Property without the owner's permission.
You know, common sense would tell you that if you have to sneak around at Two o Clock in the morning to do something,it might not be the best way of supporting your candidate. But common sense seems not to be common among the Ronulans.
What amazes me is that Ron Paul made no attempt whatsoever to control his supporter and keep them from stupid antics like this . Granted, I don't know how sucessful he would have been, but he could have at least put out a memo to his supporters saying not to do anything illegal,etc.
But I guess common sense is lacking not just in Paul supporters,but Paul himself.
 
ZenFountain said:
Paul has to be planning to drop...every other candidate made a speech last night or at least had an announcement on their website, nada from Paul. How can you leave your supporters hanging like that after the big dance? Methinks Paul is tired and wants to go home but he feels obligated to spend all the money people have sent him and apparently keep sending despite the impossibly long odds. It's becoming quite cliché to gloat over Paul's catastophe of a campaign, but if the candidate I donated to and campaigned for lost that bad yesterday and didn't have anything to say I would be quite pissed.
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Actually considering the way the Paul campaign has been ran it is more then likely that someone just forgot to post a comment on yesterday's result.
 
NeoRicen said:
That's the problem with a lot of libertarians, they seem to think everyone thinks the way they do. At least liberals and conservatives understand they only make up a portion of the population. Paul's supporters seriously thought he'd win because of this.
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I have one disagreement: I find that the "Vast Hidden Vote Out There" delusion strikes the more hardcore Left and Right ideologues in both parties.
 
While we are on what has to be one of the last Ron Paul topics, I've been trying to figure this one out.

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Were they going for the Colonel Sanders look?
 
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