Dylan Avery Gets Schooled By The BBC (Video)

[Walter Ego]

This takes off from the thread I started earlier today entitled ‘Truthers And Tropes’ which you might want to read for background here. I decided to whip up a short video of Dylan Avery getting perplexed when a BBC reporter tried to explain Shanksville corner Wally Miller’s description of the seeming lack of bodies at the United 93 crash site.

I taped the original video which I used to edited my little opus from the internet off my computer screen using my camcorder so the audio and picture quality are not ideal (you might want to turn up the volume a bit, especially to hear when the reporter says ‘phlegmatic‘) but it’s not too bad for the time I spent making it.

 

[cisco]

Dylan Avery has got to have one of the most annoying voices ever bestowed upon a human being.

Other than that, I love the video. If I could make one little suggestion: remove "annoying people on the internet since 1997" - it's not really funny or clever and it makes it sound like you made the whole video just to dick with Dylan, when in fact it makes a very good point: Avery (and all troothers) use things like similies to lie without technically telling a lie.

 

[StoneRook]

Nice work....

 

[Walter Ego]

Dylan Avery has got to have one of the most annoying voices ever bestowed upon a human being.

Agreed. He comes off as arrogant and obnoxious too. You should see the video I didn’t use.

Other than that, I love the video. If I could make one little suggestion: remove "annoying people on the internet since 1997" - it's not really funny or clever and it makes it sound like you made the whole video just to dick with Dylan, when in fact it makes a very good point: Avery (and all troothers) use things like similies to lie without technically telling a lie.

Truth in advertising. I have been annoying people online for over a decade. I was actually polite to the little twerp in my always humble opinon.

(Did I mention Avery’s obnoxious in the footage I didn’t use? Uncle Fetzer was in the BBC documentary too. Be thankful I didn’t include him. )

 

[Edx]

If you look at his face its looks to me like he's thinking "crap, he's right", but cant admit it or he'll look bad.

If you look at the Conspiracy Files documentary though, it is very badly done. I actually agree with Alex Jones about how bad it is.

 

[Walter Ego]

If you look at his face its looks to me like he's thinking "crap, he's right", but cant admit it or he'll look bad.

He was totally thrown by the word ‘simile.’ He had no idea what it meant even after it was explained to him. (He probably did look it up after the interview so he wouldn’t look stupid if it came up in conversation again.)

If you look at the Conspiracy Files documentary though, it is very badly done. I actually agree with Alex Jones about how bad it is.

I thought the BBC documentary was excellent, one of the best I've seen on the 'truth' movement, fair and balanced even. Exactly what problem did you have with it?

 

[beachnut]

This takes off from the thread I started earlier today entitled ‘Truthers And Tropes’ which you might want to read for background here. I decided to whip up a short video of Dylan Avery getting perplexed when a BBC reporter tried to explain Shanksville corner Wally Miller’s description of the seeming lack of bodies at the United 93 crash site.

I taped the original video which I used to edited my little opus from the internet off my computer screen using my camcorder so the audio and picture quality are not ideal (you might want to turn up the volume a bit, especially to hear when the reporter says ‘phlegmatic‘) but it’s not too bad for the time I spent making it.

Very good video. Outstanding. Wonder if any hard line truthers will understand.

If you look at the Conspiracy Files documentary though, it is very badly done. I actually agree with Alex Jones about how bad it is.

Alex Jones, the idiot Alex Jones? If Alex says it is bad, it is GREAT! It must of been fact filled with true stuff, Alex Jones only deals in LIES.

 

[Edx]

He was totally thrown by the word ‘simile.’ He had no idea what it meant even after it was explained to him. (He probably did look it up after the interview so he wouldn’t look stupid if it came up in conversation again.)

I dont know if he was necessarily thrown by the word because the interviewer explains what he meant, that the coroner said it was "like" there were no body parts etc. From his reaction I just got the impression that he probably hadnt thought of that but had to keep going anyway or else admit he made such a silly mistake or never thought about it.

I thought the BBC documentary was excellent, one of the best I've seen on the 'truth' movement, fair and balanced even. Exactly what problem did you have with it?

I wouldnt call it fair and balenced at all! A few points here: The producer says Dylan was a "drop out", but on Jones' show claims in the UK a "drop out" means someone who never went to Univercity. I live in the UK, Im nearly 24, this isnt true and he knows it. He films all the debukers, which outnumbered them off the top of my head about 9 to 3, in nice locations with good camera shots while he went the opposite for the conspiracy people. He even gets Frank Spotnitz a producer of the X-Files on for a long time talking about his opinion on conspiracy theorists, and Im thinking is this really relevant, isnt there something else you could be talking about, and how is this balenced and fair? Sorry, but I actually agree with Alex. It was a hit piece. The history channels show was much better, but unfortunately that used Popukar Mechanics. I have a problem with them as well, but not in quite the same way and they werent nearly as bad as Conspiracy Files.

 

[beachnut]

Agreeing with Alex Jones is a sign of woo. Dylan is dumb enough to be a drop out. Dumber than a drop out.

Did I tell you your video is great; and shows Dylan as the expert in ignorance.

 

[Walter Ego]

YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhKiAUkw7SY

grozlz (27 minutes ago)

whats with JREF obsession with this guy, you guys are getting creepier and creepier with your fanatic obsession with Dylan Avery. Avery is not 9/11 truth, and 9/11 truth is not Avery. he's just one small aspect of the world wide movement for a new independent investigation of those events.
b) wallie lied, now he's denying it. he can't even look at the camera. never see anyone's body language be that clear

go back to your forums monkey, maybe gravy's mole can give you a few pointers

The video's only been up an hour or two and it's already getting comments on YouTube. Me thinks some truthers be lurking here. LoL

 

[Edx]

Agreeing with Alex Jones is a sign of woo. Dylan is dumb enough to be a drop out. Dumber than a drop out.

You are a strange one. You pride yourself as one of the reasonable ones, yet you think its okay to dishonestly misrepresent Dylan, just because you think he's "dumb enough to be a drop out" does not give you that right. I guess you're one of those "pseudo skeptics"

 

[Walter Ego]

I wouldnt call it fair and balenced at all! A few points here: The producer says Dylan was a "drop out", but on Jones' show claims in the UK a "drop out" means someone who never went to Univercity. I live in the UK, Im nearly 24, this isnt true and he knows it. He films all the debukers, which outnumbered them off the top of my head about 9 to 3, in nice locations with good camera shots while he went the opposite for the conspiracy people. He even gets Frank Spotnitz a producer of the X-Files on for a long time talking about his opinion on conspiracy theorists, and Im thinking is this really relevant, isnt there something else you could be talking about, and how is this balenced and fair? Sorry, but I actually agree with Alex. It was a hit piece. The history channels show was much better, but unfortunately that used Popukar Mechanics. I have a problem with them as well, but not in quite the same way and they werent nearly as bad as Conspiracy Files.

Your complaints are quibbling. Was there anything factual that was wrong about the documentary?

 

[Edx]

Your complaints are quibbling. Was there anything factual that was wrong about the documentary?

They didnt touch on a lot of arguments they could have, but you honestly dont see a problem with such blatent misrepresentation? You think a ratio of 9 debunkers to 3 is fair and unbalenced?

 

[beachnut]

You are a strange one. You pride yourself as one of the reasonable ones, yet you think its okay to dishonestly misrepresent Dylan, just because you think he's "dumb enough to be a drop out". I guess you're one of those "pseudo skeptics"

Dylan is dumb on 9/11. I have not found a single thing he says to be true. Have you?
Is he a dropout from film school, or was he kicked out? What facts do you have on Dylan's dropout qualities? He acts as dumb as a high school dropout could be. But his ideas on 9/11 are dumb. Please point me to some ideas that have merit backed with evidence. I have tried and failed to find any Dylan junk to be credible; have you?

Dylan's ideas on 9/11, total crap. His films, the wasteland of lies and hearsay.

 

[CHF]

I think Dylan crapped his pants in that video.

 

[Edx]

Dylan is dumb on 9/11. I have not found a single thing he says to be true. Have you?

Whether dylan is wrong or not, doesnt justify the program to misrepresent him as a drop out.

Is he a dropout from film school, or was he kicked out?

Dylan said in responce to the film "How could I drop out of a course I never attended?", the producer said that in the UK a drop out is someone that never went to Univercity. Thats not what drop out means, and he knows it. Ive never heard the term used that way. Its implications are clear. If they wanted to show how wrong Dylan was they didnt need to misrepresent him, but they did anyway.

Please point me to some ideas that have merit backed with evidence. I have tried and failed to find any Dylan junk to be credible; have you?

Distraction. Irrelevant.

 

[firecoins]

Is there a link to the whole BBC documentary?

 

[johnny karate]

They didnt touch on a lot of arguments they could have, but you honestly dont see a problem with such blatent misrepresentation? You think a ratio of 9 debunkers to 3 is fair and unbalenced?

Truth is not based on popularity. It could have been a 100 to 1 in either direction, and it wouldn't matter. The facts speak for themselves.

 

[Edx]

Truth is not based on popularity. It could have been a 100 to 1 in either direction, and it wouldn't matter. The facts speak for themselves.

He said it was fair and balenced. It evidently wasnt, for many reasons.

 

[cisco]

I wouldnt call it fair and balenced at all! A few points here: The producer says Dylan was a "drop out", but on Jones' show claims in the UK a "drop out" means someone who never went to Univercity. I live in the UK, Im nearly 24, this isnt true and he knows it. He films all the debukers, which outnumbered them off the top of my head about 9 to 3, in nice locations with good camera shots while he went the opposite for the conspiracy people. He even gets Frank Spotnitz a producer of the X-Files on for a long time talking about his opinion on conspiracy theorists, and Im thinking is this really relevant, isnt there something else you could be talking about, and how is this balenced and fair? Sorry, but I actually agree with Alex. It was a hit piece. The history channels show was much better, but unfortunately that used Popukar Mechanics. I have a problem with them as well, but not in quite the same way and they werent nearly as bad as Conspiracy Files.

These would all be relevant points if we were dealing with an opinion piece; i.e. gun control, abortion, fiscal policy, etc. September 11th is a factual topic and the trooth is bankrupt in that field.

Frankly I wouldn't care if they superimposed horns on Dylan Avery and replaced the background with flames, because he's earned it. Same goes for Alex Jones, Stephen Jones, David Griffin, Thierry Meyssan, and all the other usual suspects. Give us a new idea that has some factual or logical merit; otherwise, everything you've said so far has been debunked and should be ridiculed as brutally and as often as possible.