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Books you hate

I can't imagine any series like that.

I wish Matt were here- he'd know what books you were talking about.

Pardon me- my wife is folding her arms under her breasts and sniffing, which means I have to give her the computer.
The Dark Tower Series by Stephen King - "Song For Susanah" seemed unnecessary and pointless. "Wolves of the Callah" was also pointless, but was also a sequel to "'Salem's Lot," which is my favorite King books.

After the first three books of the Dune Series began by Frank Herbert, I became very disinterested and stopped reading them after the fifth.

The Fleming Bond books became travelogues towards the end.

I stopped reading the Sue Grafton books after G.

Harry Turtledove will stretch his book series out by two more books then they need. They usually end well, so I have to read all the books to know what's going on and there is usually at least one story line I'm still interested in.

That's to name a few.
 
Book whose title I have long since forgotten by No idea who. It was some kind of juvenile African jungle adventure novel, which I was into up to my eyebrows at age 13 or so. I tried to read it twice and both times gave up when the chief of the tribe (African, remember) comes into the tent wearing a TIGER skin! Very painful collaps of my virgin efforts at suspension-of-disbelief, that was.

So I suppose you also hated Dr. Suess' Horton books, in which Horton the elephant lives in a jungle with a kangaroo?

Two series that I didn't like were in the "modern town gets transplanted to ancient/fantasy setting" genre. The Nantucket books were enjoyable. The next series in that style I read had a bunch of US civil war troops being sent to a different world. And, of course, they know exactly how to make gunpowder from whatever's lying around- they manage to make sulphuric acid by dampening some sulphur, allowing it to get rusty, and dissolving the oxide thus formed in water.

Sulphur doesn't oxidize at room temperature like iron does- it has to be burned. And it usually forms sulphur dioxide when it does- to get sulphur trioxide, you need high pressures of oxygen and a suitable catalyst. Sulphur dioxide will dissolve in water to give sulphurous acid, which is pretty useless as far as acids go.

Then there were the "1642" books, in which a town of Virginia coal-mining rednecks (who are actually the salt of the earth, as opposed to the bigoted New York liberals who happen to be in town with them) get sent to medieval Germany and start taking over the world from there. It's easy, since half the town just happens to be either an Olympic-level sharpshooter, an ex-terrorist, or someone who build steam engines and/or factories as hobbies. Apart from the appalling coincidences of everyone being amazingly skilled, the pure jingoism of the book made me retch.
 
The most loathsome books in the world, however, are the Recluse books by Modesitt. Utterly stupid version of "Law vs. Chaos" (a concept that Micheal Moorcock should be slapped silly for, since it's been abused by so many horrific fantasy novels), and onomatopoeia up well past the eyeballs. ("Clip-clop, clip-clop, went the horses' hooves. Clip-clop, clip-clop, clip-clop. Hooo-woooo, the wind replied. Clip-clop, clip-clop, insisted the hooves. Hoo-woooo, the wind adamantly stated. Clip-clop, clip-clop, continued the horses' hooves.....").
 
I thought The Wheel of Time was amazing, but it did start to wander and get bogged down after The Dragon Reborn. I just can't hate it because I fell in love with the world and characters at such a young age I guess. The LOTR was destroyed in my mind by the horrrible film adaptations. But on the topic of literary hate, Dan @#@$ Brown for recycling Holy Blood Holy Grail into a watered down concept. Way to make Anne Rice reading housewives think they are progressive, intlellectual or philosophical thinkers. Please.
 
I know this is probably a separate thread idea, but I would like to know "yin" from "yang" if you know what I mean.

What is an example of a Lovable (completely and utterly admirable) book that is the opposite of a Hatable (completely retch-worthy, inspiring anger against author and publisher, even the person that gave it to you).

I'm not sure of myself here, but one book that has always left me loving the author and returning to it from time to time is....Point Counter Point by Huxley. I can never throw away a copy, and when I re-read it it makes me think hard and laugh and such.

I guess I'm asking for the general readership here to stand up and be counted! It's hard to get an idea what one is "for" if all that is apparent is what one is "against." Sort of like the political statement...if you're not With us you're Against us.
 
How about a loathsome non-fiction/memoir?

The Know-It-All, by A.J. Jacobs. Jacobs decided that he was going to become the world's smartest person by reading all 32 volumes of the Encyclopedia Britannica. For the first couple of chapters, the pop culture references are cute, but they quickly wear thin.

But, the biggest problem with this book are the autobiographical portions that take up way too much space. Jacobs is a very shallow child who thinks he’s the center of the universe. He’s reading the encyclopedia not so he can actually be smarter/learn things, but so he can convince other people that he’s very intelligent. He doesn’t really want to be intelligent; he just wants other people to think he’s intelligent. In social situations, he eagerly awaits opportunities to insert some new piece of trivia; to one-up his much more intelligent and deeper relatives and prove his brillaince to them. When this fails, he acts like the child that he really is. There’s a chapter where he returns to his prep school to show off what he considers to be intelligence. His attempts at intellectual superiority are thwarted by twelve-year olds, and he finds the experience humiliating. I found it appropriate, because I didn’t think that Jacobs has matured past a twelve-year-old.

Avoid this one at all costs!
 
How about a loathsome non-fiction/memoir?

The Know-It-All, by A.J. Jacobs. Jacobs decided that he was going to become the world's smartest person by reading all 32 volumes of the Encyclopedia Britannica. For the first couple of chapters, the pop culture references are cute, but they quickly wear thin.

I read it. I probably remember as much about it as he retains about the entire EB, which means, not very much. Funny thing -- I could recall the subject of the book but dang if I could remember the title. But loathsome? Nah...
 
I too struggled through Lockie Leonard: Human Torpedo in high school, the continuous, rather louche references to "emissions" I think were there deliberately to make the room of 14 year olds uncomfortable when reading aloud.

Also I couldn't stand Catcher in the Rye perhaps I gazed over the deeper meanings or motifs in the book but i just found the tone of this grumpy louse to be frustrating.

And finally The Bible code and The Bible code 2 not because I've read them and hated them but because they exist. How are people surprised by post-predicting something? (Great experiment by Jon Safran where they put Vanilla ice's back catalog of lyrics into the program and found predictions of the September 11 attacks ^^)
 
I too struggled through Lockie Leonard: Human Torpedo in high school, the continuous, rather louche references to "emissions" I think were there deliberately to make the room of 14 year olds uncomfortable when reading aloud.

YAY!!!

Someone who agrees with me.

I thought it was utter crap but there were people who somehow really enjoyed it and went on to read the *GASP* sequel.
 
Well I enjoyed reading "Deliverance" byJames Dicky but the love scene was a bit hard to get through. The locals where the movie was made jokingly refer to the horrendous rape scene as the "Love Scene". Dicky wrote another not so well known novel called "To The White Sea". The book is about an American tail gunner who survived being shot down in japan. As the book progresses its hard to tell if the japanese are the bad guys or if he is. Some of the murders the psychopathic American commits are hard to read.
 
I'll chime in again, I totally dig Vonnegut, except... I thought Deadeye Dick and Bluebeard a bit of a let-down. Too much of the politics and culture influencing the author. For the guy that invented Ice-9, they were sort of lame for me. I'd say KV is about 80 percent on the read list, take your chances, but if you stumble on the good ones, it will be 100 percent for you. If you get an off effort, you probably won't like him.
 
Books I hate?

I don't really hate any book but I strongly didn't like The Lord of the Rings.
 
Anything by Martin Amis. For some reason, all his books seem so obviously to have been written by a man with a deeply unpleasant personality, who is nowhere near as clever nor one half so insightful as he seems to think. A vicious whiff of worthless arrogance about his actual style, too.

For the most part, I'd agree with you. However, I very much liked "London Fields". Consider giving that a try.
 
YAY!!!

Someone who agrees with me.

I thought it was utter crap but there were people who somehow really enjoyed it and went on to read the *GASP* sequel.

Sequel?!

Mother of God..

Another 'book' I have in my possession that I'm not particularly fond of is (wait for it) "NINJA: Clan of death" Written in the early 80's late 70's when people just made stuff up about anything to do with martial arts *cough James Hydrick cough*
 
"Wolves of the Callah" was also pointless, but was also a sequel to "'Salem's Lot," which is my favorite King books.

It was an unnesessary sequel. An unnesessary sequel that sucked like the unholy combination of a black hole and a bangcock prostitute. I had to take regular breaks every few pages and skip whole chapters just so i didn't throw it at a wall or take it outside and ceremonially burn it (along with my DVD of "Natural Born Killers").

The most tedious book imaginable, though "God Emporer Of Dune" does it's damndest to claim that title for itself.
 
Fountainhead. Anthem made the point and didn't waste trees.

Fountainhead was disturbing (not in a good way). I was looking through the list to see if anybody else had named it before I made my post as such. Anthem was just *****. I read in in probably middle school, and by the time I had read it I was already familliar with dystopian fiction to the point to see how bad it was. The way I describe Rand's writing, it reads like she is summarising a book that somebody else has written.

A lot of people cite Zamyatin's We as an alternative to Anthem. For the first half I really did not like it. I could not relate to or sympathise with or see as remotely real any of the characters. I mean, the book, narrated by the main character, seemed far too interested in comparing contemporary culture to that of a culture from a millenium ago. How many of us sit around constantly thinking about how society today compares to society around 1000 CE?

It's possible to look at this and say, well, maybe the main character has a private obsession with society in that age and that is the root of his eventual wanting to break away from the society he is in. It's possible.

However, I took a similar reading to Fountainhead. Howard Roark is glorifying his own architectural genius and complaining about being kicked out of school for being too original. His character seemed pretty unstable. Consequently, I took the approach of looking beyond his character and supposing that the character was somebody that preferred to think of himself as being rejected by the school and most likely locking on to some particular interaction where his professor was teaching about the influence of roman architecture (and possibly he started arguing with the professor). In fact, I think that it was pretty safe to suspect that his professors desperatly wanted their students to think originally and not repeat back the same tired ideas that have come to them from years of student prior (as this is the case for most professors in classes that require any open creative work by the students (including history professors, political science, etc)) and in fact Roark was a student who had a few good ideas but didn't actually do his assignments and spent all of classes vocalising some mantra about his ideas (and not taking advantage of class as a way to learn and to help him develop these ideas). So, he seems pretty much like a loser who would hang out at Denny's and complain about how he is too brilliant for the world.

I think that anybody who has read the Fountainhead as a literary work can see how I could get this idea about the main character.

So later he's practicing architecture without a license, raping some board rich woman who idles away constructing her own fantasies of grandure, and when Toohey comes along (who I had been desperatly waiting for as a possible sane character) he's a bloody megalomaniacal straw man.

About the time Roark blew up the housing project then I had to stop reading. The book was just too much of a mind ****.

But getting back to muy original train of thought, although We didn't begin well, it had a relatively strong finish with a touch of biblical allegory common to Russian literature.
 
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And yet it constantly comes up as on "most influential novels" lists all the time. I'm not certain if that's a good thing or a bad, as L. Ron Hubbard sometimes makes those same lists! :D

Most recent hyped books that I've disliked are The Historian by Elizabeth Kostova. A lot of Neil Gaiman's stuff doesn't do much for me. Much of Oprah's Book Club I find blase at best.

Older "classics" include Hemmingway (although his descriptions of food are impressive), Melville (though not his short stories), and Cervantes.

Actually, the only list is has come up on that I have found (besides some personal lists of 'my favourite books') was a volunatry response book club survey back in the 90s.
 
Sequel?!

Mother of God..

Another 'book' I have in my possession that I'm not particularly fond of is (wait for it) "NINJA: Clan of death" Written in the early 80's late 70's when people just made stuff up about anything to do with martial arts *cough James Hydrick cough*

Eric van Lustbader
 

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