Could a demolition team bring down WTC 7?

[MaGZ]

MaGz- could you please point to the hole in the 14th floor where the missile entered? can you point to the radar image of the fighter and missile approaching the WTC? Can you point to video or photo of the explosion in WTC 7 as the missile hit?

No. I didnt think so.

The hole where the missile hit was reported by the fire department.

Photos taken from the other side of the Hudson River in New Jersey show the 12th floor of WTC 7 on fire before the collapse of the Twin Towers.

The government confiscated the air traffic control tapes. However air traffic control in Newark reported the fighters were over NYC moments after the second plane hit WTC 2.

The local FOX news cameraman has footage of the missile strike on WTC 7. He was in the WTC plaza when the missile hit.

 

[Alt+F4]

WTC 7 was pulled to protect the ongoing search and rescue efforts at Ground Zero.

Could you please explain to us your expertise on the methods the FDNY uses to perform rescue operations? Could you please link to the FDNY documentation stating their policies?

 

[MaGZ]

Missile? Are you serious?

See post 67.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=83514&page=2

 

[WildCat]

WTC 7 was a national security building in the sense it had CIA offices, Secret Service offices and the Emergency Command Center for NYC, better known as Rudy’s bunker.

Odd placement for a "bunker". Usually they're buried deep under ground under many feet of hardened concrete, but now they're located far above ground in a high-rise?

 

[MaGZ]

If that were the case, again, why would they lie about it?

I think the reason the government would not claim responsibility for pulling WTC 7 is to avoid the situation we have now. If the government admitted this, then others would claim the Twin Towers were also a CD and the attacks were an inside job.

Those in charge decided to leave the collapse of WTC 7 as a mystery, so they said nothing.

 

[MaGZ]

Oh I see, just so I get it absolutly correct.

You have just mentioned that the building had CIA offices in, was a national security building, had secret service offices and an emergency command centre in it ,but none of this relevent to anything because according to you WTC 7 , which was hit by a missile was pulled to protect an ongoing search and resuce operation.

So why mention these "facts" in the first place if they are totally irrelevent to what you believe happened ?

At some point in time the full story or WTC 7 will have to be written. I think this is a part of the story, a clue for independent researchers and reporters to follow.

 

[stateofgrace]

At some point in time the full story or WTC 7 will have to be written. I think this is a part of the story, a clue for independent researchers and reporters to follow.

In other words the "secret documents", "secret offices" and "secret bunkers" inside WTC 7 have absolutly no bearing on what you believe? A simple yes or no please.

Please remember YOU said the building was pulled to protect a search and rescue operation.

 

[Darth Rotor]

On a recent program Modern Marvels: Demolition, at team was giver five hours to bring down a building.

Was the building as big as WTC 7? Gumboot made a good point a bit further up about the sizes of buildings that have been successfullly CD'd.

A CD has to be done -- per your scenario regarding where the building was to fall, or meant not to fall -- with some care if it is to be rigged to fall in a particular direction.

The timeline of hours does not stand up to scrutiny, MaGZ, based on the repeatedly posted discussions here about how many days it typically takes to rig a CD in order to ensure a building falls in a particular way.

DR

 

[realitybites]

Only the upper floors were on fire.
A team could have placed charges at the columns on the lower floors.

Of course. How silly of me.

And all this was done in a matter of hours, correct? The exposing of the columns. The placing of the charges. The running of the wire. With not one person noticing anything of course, 'cause this special secret team of demolition experts wore Cheney's new line of WTC7 camoflage.

I'm starting to see the light.

 

[Corsair 115]

I have speculated that the starship Enterprise scooped up the remains with a tractor beam and deposited them on the dark side of Phobos.

I await proof that I am wrong.

I'm sorry, but you have to be more precise — which starship Enterprise? There's been as many as nine of them depicted so far (depending on how technical one wants to get).

 

[332nd]

I think the reason the government would not claim responsibility for pulling WTC 7 is to avoid the situation we have now. If the government admitted this, then others would claim the Twin Towers were also a CD and the attacks were an inside job.

Those in charge decided to leave the collapse of WTC 7 as a mystery, so they said nothing.

So they were worried about WTC 7 collapsing during the rescue effort and killing even more people, they dropped WTC 7 by CD so they could hurry back to rescue efforts. They then get together a team of demo experts (or at least some people who know enough about explosives) and send them into the building that they are worried about collapsing and killing more people. In a matter of hours these teams makes snap judgments on where to place the explosives, rig the building with charges, run the wires out, and detonate said charges bring the building down. Fearing that releasing this information would lead to people to suspect and inside job by comparing WTC 1 & 2 to 7 and calling them CDs too thereby implicating an inside job, the higher ups decide to keep it a secret, thereby implicating an inside job due to the cover up. To make matters worse, now the FDNY, NYPD, etc... are part of this cover up and are lying to America too. Now they are stuck with the story because if they own up to the plan they will be seen guilty of a cover up and CTers will go monkey nuts with perverse joy. Lucky for them NONE of the FDNY, or NYPD, or etc... have gotten frustrated and blurted out the truth.

Or...

Due to impact and fire damage the building collapsed.

 

[Sabrina]

Wait, wait, wait...

FOOTAGE? Of a missile strike?

Care to provide said footage, MaGZ? Or are you pulling this out of your you-know-where, as usual?

 

[GT/CS]

Is there a direct line-of-sight from where ever the missle was fired to the 14th floor of WT7?

 

[lisabob2]

Who made the call? My guess would be Dick Cheney. WTC 7 was the national security building for New York City. I think to bring it down would take a special national security team with the necessary explosives. Once the decision was made the fire department approached Silverstein and informed him of the plan. Silverstein agreed.

funny how come people here know all the answers and anybody who doesn't think like then are wrong? either they must be all under 25 and /or neocons, both who are always right no matter what evidence is there to disprove them.

 

[TheRedWorm]

Please, lisabob2, tell us what evidence convinced you that WTC7 was brought down in a CD.

 

[chillzero]

Wait, wait, wait...

FOOTAGE? Of a missile strike?

Care to provide said footage, MaGZ? Or are you pulling this out of your you-know-where, as usual?

Sabrina,
MaGZ received several mod actions from spamming his threads on this matter. I would suggest he would do better to re-bump one (only one, MaGZ) to show you what he meant. Or, you could look for threads started by MaGZ earlier this year, or late last year.

 

[CHF]

WTC 7 began to evacuate shortly after the missile hit the 14th floor. 9:03am

The CD was likely rigged later that afternoon.

So the Holocaust was a hoax, a missile hit WTC7 and it was rigged up with CD charges on 9/11?

You need serious medical help, Nazi boy.

 

[tsig]

I'm sorry, but you have to be more precise — which starship Enterprise? There's been as many as nine of them depicted so far (depending on how technical one wants to get).

Who operated the tractor beam? How about the stand down and the extra drill the crew was undertaking.

Who gave the order? We want heads to roll and body parts on the floor

 

[Quad4_72]

Guys, MaGZ has had his missile theory discussed in length and in depth in other threads. It has been debunked and the terrible obvious flaws have been presented to him. He chooses to ignore facts and instead rely on the fantasy his mind can create. My suggestion is to just leave him be. No point in trying to figure out what drives lunatics. We will let the psych ward figure that one out when he is finally admitted by either his family, or himself.

 

[peteweaver]

Magz, the time needed just to clad charges alone makes your proposition ridiculous.

Then there's pre weakening of steel, stripping out interior walls so as to get at the load bearing structure, there's time needed to survey the building, calculate the amount of explosives to bring a building down cleanly.

Ridiculous.

Magz, just answer this simple question: why isn't structural damage and fire an acceptable explaination for you ?