Could a demolition team bring down WTC 7?

[MaGZ]

That's not an airtight position, pete. It presumes that covert acts are not possible if people who are not looking for a covert act are about. Do you see the problem with that?

But let's look at what the assertion was earlier in the thread.



The problem here is MaGZ's reliance, for this assertion, on a timeline that takes an evolution lasting days to weeks, professional demolition crews prepping a building for controlled demolition, and compressing it into a few hours.

This while firefighters are in the building, during a portion of the time, actively evacuating people and looking for all manner of trouble with a building that is on fire/damaged.

The time/task fit simply isn't there, for a controlled demolition.

DR

On a recent program Modern Marvels: Demolition, at team was giver five hours to bring down a building.

 

[MaGZ]

Please list all the people in the building, and I have talked to people who worked in the building and they were not in the government and they did not see your secret team of idiots setting up the CD. What happen to your stupid neonazi missile Your Majesty?

WTC 7 began to evacuate shortly after the missile hit the 14th floor. 9:03am

The CD was likely rigged later that afternoon.

 

[Pardalis]

MaGnazi, the building was

ON FIRE

 

[MaGZ]

Just as a point of edification for the individuals who believe it is possible WTC7 was demolished to destroy the paperwork therein: (from DoD Directive 5200.1 revised)

Chapter 6: Safeguarding





I emphasized the relevant portions, but feel free to research it yourselves. Nowhere in that directive does it state that demolishing a building is an acceptable method of destroying classified material. And given the amount of paper blown throughout lower Manhatten that day, I think we can safely say that some small percentage of it was likely classified material, and therefore if the building were demolished on purpose, it would have been done in direct violation of this directive and would not have safeguarded information AT ALL. I CANNOT stress that enough; it is an absolutely LUDICROUS theory to state that the building was demolished to destroy information. So please, stop saying that. That's all I ask; continue to spout your theories that it was demolished all you want if that's your desire, but you need to leave out the idea that it was done to destroy classified material.

Again I wish to say WTC 7 was pulled to protect the search and rescue efforts that were on going at Ground Zero.
As to the sensitive government documents, I have speculated the remains of WTC 7 were taken to a military base where sensitive information was secured...not destroyed.

 

[332nd]

Again I wish to say WTC 7 was pulled to protect the search and rescue efforts that were on going at Ground Zero.
As to the sensitive government documents, I have speculated the remains of WTC 7 were taken to a military base where sensitive information was secured...not destroyed.

Ok, never mind the missing audio of CD charges, why lie about it?

 

[funk de fino]

On a recent program Modern Marvels: Demolition, at team was giver five hours to bring down a building.

And exactly how large was this building?

 

[Pardalis]

And exactly how large was this building?

And most importantly, was it ON FIRE?

 

[Corsair 115]

The CD was likely rigged later that afternoon.

Where were the sounds of those explosives going off? Why do none of the numerous video cameras in the area record the (very loud and distinctive) sound of explosive demolition charges going off?

 

[Gazpacho]

As to the sensitive government documents, I have speculated the remains of WTC 7 were taken to a military base where sensitive information was secured...not destroyed.

I have speculated that the starship Enterprise scooped up the remains with a tractor beam and deposited them on the dark side of Phobos.

I await proof that I am wrong.

 

[Sword_Of_Truth]

WTC 7 had to [have heavy steel cables attached and dragged off its foundation with backhoes and tractors] because it was in danger of falling toward the southwest.

I think that is perhaps one of the silliest things that has been said in this forum.... and that's saying alot.

If you quote other posters I would prefer if you actually quote what they say. Snip if you have to, but don't add something they didn't say, in this case "[have heavy steel cables attached and dragged off its foundation with backhoes and tractors]"

Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: tim

 

[jhunter1163]

I've used this one before, but for the benefit of those who might not have seen it:

Industrial paper shredder: $500

WTC7: $700 million

Yep, sounds like a government operation to me.

 

[Gnu World Order]

WTC 7 began to evacuate shortly after the missile hit the 14th floor. 9:03am

Missile? Are you serious?

 

[Firestone]

Missile? Are you serious?

MaGZ = Missile at Ground Zero.

He is absolutely serious, and if not, the best hoaxer I've ever seen.

ETA: now that's a funny nickname, Gnu!

 

[stateofgrace]

Let me get this straight MaGZ, According to you something like this happened to WTC 7.

WTC 7 was full of "higly secret documents" and " vital national security documents" that needed to be " secured".They were so vital that they could not be destroyed . So on the morning of Sept 11th a missile was fired at the building which started some fires. After the building had burnt for some time a team of highly trained demolition experts went in, ignored the massive fires, rigged it with explosives and left. The building was then demolished and all the the " sensitive Goverment documents " were recovered from the rubble and removed to a "military base" to be "secured".

And this all makes sense somehow? It all seems perfectly reasonable ?

 

[realitybites]

WTC 7 began to evacuate shortly after the missile hit the 14th floor. 9:03am

The CD was likely rigged later that afternoon.

Do you have any clue how long it takes to rig a building for demolition to have it fall "within its own footprint"?

I'll give you a hint. It's a hell of a lot longer than a couple hours.

Nevermind the fact that you're having to find a demolition team willing to carry and rig explosives into a building which was, as has been pointed out already, ON FIRE.

 

[Thunder]

MaGz- could you please point to the hole in the 14th floor where the missile entered? can you point to the radar image of the fighter and missile approaching the WTC? Can you point to video or photo of the explosion in WTC 7 as the missile hit?

No. I didnt think so.

 

[MaGZ]

Let me get this straight MaGZ, According to you something like this happened to WTC 7.

WTC 7 was full of "higly secret documents" and " vital national security documents" that needed to be " secured".They were so vital that they could not be destroyed . So on the morning of Sept 11th a missile was fired at the building which started some fires. After the building had burnt for some time a team of highly trained demolition experts went in, ignored the massive fires, rigged it with explosives and left. The building was then demolished and all the the " sensitive Goverment documents " were recovered from the rubble and removed to a "military base" to be "secured".

And this all makes sense somehow? It all seems perfectly reasonable ?

An errant missile hit WTC 7 in an attempt to shoot down the second plane. My research indicates it hit the on the 14th floor on the south side of the building. Damaged in this area was reported by the fire department which was different from the scaring to the building caused by collapse of WTC 1. The missile started fires on several floors of WTC 7.
WTC 7 was a national security building in the sense it had CIA offices, Secret Service offices and the Emergency Command Center for NYC, better known as Rudy’s bunker. The decision to pull WTC 7 had nothing to do with the sensitive information inside the building. There was no government conspiracy to destroy any information in that building. WTC 7 was pulled to protect the ongoing search and rescue efforts at Ground Zero.
Why is it unreasonable to suggest the government would want to go thru the remains of WTC 7 and remove and secure sensitive information?

 

[MaGZ]

Do you have any clue how long it takes to rig a building for demolition to have it fall "within its own footprint"?

I'll give you a hint. It's a hell of a lot longer than a couple hours.

Nevermind the fact that you're having to find a demolition team willing to carry and rig explosives into a building which was, as has been pointed out already, ON FIRE.

Only the upper floors were on fire.
A team could have placed charges at the columns on the lower floors.

 

[332nd]

An errant missile hit WTC 7 in an attempt to shoot down the second plane. My research indicates it hit the on the 14th floor on the south side of the building. Damaged in this area was reported by the fire department which was different from the scaring to the building caused by collapse of WTC 1. The missile started fires on several floors of WTC 7.
WTC 7 was a national security building in the sense it had CIA offices, Secret Service offices and the Emergency Command Center for NYC, better known as Rudy’s bunker. The decision to pull WTC 7 had nothing to do with the sensitive information inside the building. There was no government conspiracy to destroy any information in that building. WTC 7 was pulled to protect the ongoing search and rescue efforts at Ground Zero.
Why is it unreasonable to suggest the government would want to go thru the remains of WTC 7 and remove and secure sensitive information?

If that were the case, again, why would they lie about it?

 

[stateofgrace]

An errant missile hit WTC 7 in an attempt to shoot down the second plane. My research indicates it hit the on the 14th floor on the south side of the building. Damaged in this area was reported by the fire department which was different from the scaring to the building caused by collapse of WTC 1. The missile started fires on several floors of WTC 7.
WTC 7 was a national security building in the sense it had CIA offices, Secret Service offices and the Emergency Command Center for NYC, better known as Rudy’s bunker. The decision to pull WTC 7 had nothing to do with the sensitive information inside the building. There was no government conspiracy to destroy any information in that building. WTC 7 was pulled to protect the ongoing search and rescue efforts at Ground Zero.
Why is it unreasonable to suggest the government would want to go thru the remains of WTC 7 and remove and secure sensitive information?

Oh I see, just so I get it absolutly correct.

You have just mentioned that the building had CIA offices in, was a national security building, had secret service offices and an emergency command centre in it ,but none of this relevent to anything because according to you WTC 7 , which was hit by a missile was pulled to protect an ongoing search and resuce operation.

So why mention these "facts" in the first place if they are totally irrelevent to what you believe happened ?