The aluminum of Flights 11 & 175 was used to create phreato-thermatic explosions.

[Max Photon]

cricket cricket

It got awfully quiet out there.

 

[T.A.M.]

you can just restart that conversation you were having with yourself earlier...lol

TAM

 

[jhunter1163]

How could anyone possibly differentiate a (hypothetical) hydrogen explosion from a jet fuel explosion?

Max is just throwing out scenarios that produce explosions without giving any thought as to whether the scenario is even theoretically possible.

 

[achtung circus]

It got awfully quiet out there.

Just waiting for the next reincarnation of Rube Goldberg.

 

[Max Photon]

Could aluminum/water explosions evade NIST's modeling of the fireballs?

Look children, I am asking a simple question. And the reason I am asking the simple question is because I don't know the answer, and - not being a child - I thought I'd ask.

So I'll try again...

How would two WTC fireballs/explosions visually differ - (if at all) - if one included an aluminum/water explosion?

As we ponder this question, bear in mind that NIST sees nothing untoward in the jet crash explosion/fireballs because the observed fireballs roughly match the cartoon produced by NIST's models.

But what if an aluminum/water explosion adds energy without much visual difference? Perhaps an aluminum/water explosion could slip under the radar of NIST's modeling.

(Note that this contradicts what I posited earlier - that the phreato-thermatic explosions could be used - as one function - to visually enhance the explosions. However, this was a secondary function; knocking off SFRM was the primary function.)

 

[pomeroo]

If this thread were a horse, it would have been shot long ago.

 

[twinstead]

If this thread were a horse, it would have been shot long ago.

If Max were a horse, he'd be a unicorn.

 

[pomeroo]

If Max were a horse, he'd be a unicorn.

Well, Max is part of a horse.

 

[A W Smith]

So hows the writers strike affecting this thread.????


Is Max in re-runs or gone to infomercial?

 

[soylent]

So I'll try again...

How would two WTC fireballs/explosions visually differ - (if at all) - if one included an aluminum/water explosion?

It'd take some time to melt the airplane aluminium into puddles and then you'd need to find a good source of water to pour on the aluminium. I wouldn't expect it to have a part in the initial fireball.

There are some who think secondary explosions at the pentagon were due to airplane aluminium reacting with water from the sprinklers.

In any case, what would be surreptitious about aircrafts being made of aluminium or office buildings containing water? Seems to me you're just advancing a plausible explanation for some secondary explosions in the WTC.

 

[MIKILLINI]

Reruns. Max is in the NIST, World Trade Center collapse hypothesis.
But Max's mode of transportation hasn't really arrived. What that means is Max believes there were no hijackers and the airliners were remote-controlled.
Therefore Max's transportation hasn't really arrived....I'm sending smoke signals to you Max. You really have not explained or proved anything convincing enough to warrant consideration of the remote-controlled airliners.
So if you can't get this critical, pre-collision aspect off the ground and into tangible evidence territory, then your hypothesis foundation is missing a major building block.

 

[MIKILLINI]

Well, Max is part of a horse.

Like the south end going north?

 

[T.A.M.]

Max:

you do realize name calling, such as calling grown adults "children", is in itself childish.

You were the one who said it was quiet in here, and you have been known to have conversations with yourself on this forum...

TAM

 

[Max Photon]

Aluminum/water interactions: molten and burning

How do a molten-aluminum/water interaction, and a burning-aluminum/water interaction differ?

 

[MIKILLINI]

How do a molten-aluminum/water interaction, and a burning-aluminum/water interaction differ?

Max are you trying out for the next Batman movie as the Riddler?

I would guess that burning aluminum is hotter than molten aluminum, therefore when mixed into water, the reaction would be more volatile.

 

[Max Photon]

Just a few questions to explore

Max are you trying out for the next Batman movie as the Riddler?

I have simply posed some questions to the community, and would value peoples' responses.

 

[A W Smith]

Max Photon, as the mad professor

I have simply posed some questions to the community, and would value peoples' responses.

you're Jim Carrey aren't you?

 

[Max Photon]

If the F4 Phanton collided with H20 before hitting the concrete would the AL explode?

Here is another question:

If the F4 Phantom crash test were modified such that the jet collided into water tanks just before hitting the concrete block, would the aluminum explode?

Note that molten aluminum reacts explosively with water, as the water becomes an oxidizer.

Also note that Crazy Chainsaw has argued several time that strong shock or vibration can in effect melt aluminum particles, negating the protection of the aluminum oxide layer. If an oxidizing agent such as rust or water is present, the aluminum can ignite explosively.

Water is of particular interest because after the aluminum swipes the oxygen, hydrogen gas is left, adding to the explosive force.

 

[A W Smith]

Here is another question:

If the F4 Phantom crash test were modified such that the jet collided into water tanks just before hitting the concrete block, would the aluminum explode?

Note that molten aluminum reacts explosively with water, as the water becomes an oxidizer.

Also note that Crazy Chainsaw has argued several time that strong shock or vibration can in effect melt aluminum particles, negating the protection of the aluminum oxide layer. If an oxidizing agent such as rust or water is present, the aluminum can ignite explosively.

Water is of particular interest because after the aluminum swipes the oxygen, hydrogen gas is left, adding to the explosive force.

Oh yeah.. The Flow Water jet system cuts aluminum plate all the time by exploding the aluminum Go Watch Max. theres even a video

http://www.thefabricator.com/IndDir/Showroom.cfm?ID=1988

 

[USAFMXOfficer]

Didja ever notice how a Max Photon Thread is like a car accident?

You know it's going to be horrible but you just can't look away......