A Couple of Random Observations

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One night last week I watched "Hollywood Science" on the National Geographic channel. This particular episode dealt with the making of the movie "Titanic." Apart from the special effects wizardry on display, I was fascinated by James Cameron's approach to the project, his total immersion in his subject. The man made over ten trips to the wreck of the ship, each time descending two miles below the surface of the Atlantic. One bit of information struck me as appropriate for posting on this forum: Efforts to determine why the unsinkable Titantic failed to live up to its billing were hampered by the contradictory accounts of the survivors. More than seven hundred people lived to tell the tale, but the tales they told differed wildly. It wasn't until the wreck was discovered in 1985 that investigators finally gained a clear understanding of the exact cause of the sinking.
Most of you see where I'm headed. Apparently, it didn't occur to anyone that Joooos had whisked off the real Titanic to parts unknown, substituted a duplicate vessel, and sank it by means of a futuristic technology. In other words, despite the varied and often contradictory accounts of the survivors, everyone got the idea that the liner hit an iceberg and went down.

I'm still trying to find a twoofer willing to discuss WTC 7 on 'Hardfire.' Retired FDNY battalion chief Arthur Scheuerman has agreed to appear and I trust that Mark is available. But where are the fantasists to expose those two shills? The plea I posted on the C.H.A.N.G.E. site has gone unanswered. Curious, no?
 
It's coming up to xmas. Fighting for truth and justice against the tyrannical, murderous NWO and its lackeys probably takes a poor second to doing the xmas shopping.
 
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uk_dave said:
It's coming up to xmas. Fighting for truth and justice against the tyrannical, murderous NWO and its lackeys probably takes a poor second to doing the xmas shopping.
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Youbetcha.

I'm getting my NWO Section Chief a nice pair of patent leather jackboots this year. Great sale at PowerElite-R-Us this weekend!
 
pomeroo said:
One night last week I watched "Hollywood Science" on the National Geographic channel. This particular episode dealt with the making of the movie "Titanic." Apart from the special effects wizardry on display, I was fascinated by James Cameron's approach to the project, his total immersion in his subject. The man made over ten trips to the wreck of the ship, each time descending two miles below the surface of the Atlantic. One bit of information struck me as appropriate for posting on this forum: Efforts to determine why the unsinkable Titantic failed to live up to its billing were hampered by the contradictory accounts of the survivors. More than seven hundred people lived to tell the tale, but the tales they told differed wildly. It wasn't until the wreck was discovered in 1985 that investigators finally gained a clear understanding of the exact cause of the sinking.
Most of you see where I'm headed. Apparently, it didn't occur to anyone that Joooos had whisked off the real Titanic to parts unknown, substituted a duplicate vessel, and sank it by means of a futuristic technology. In other words, despite the varied and often contradictory accounts of the survivors, everyone got the idea that the liner hit an iceberg and went down.

I'm still trying to find a twoofer willing to discuss WTC 7 on 'Hardfire.' Retired FDNY battalion chief Arthur Scheuerman has agreed to appear and I trust that Mark is available. But where are the fantasists to expose those two shills? The plea I posted on the C.H.A.N.G.E. site has gone unanswered. Curious, no?
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From what I understand, witnesses couldn't even agree on seemingly trivial and straightforward details such as what song the band was playing when the ship sank. Had there been CTers back in the day, they'd have taken this as irrefutable proof the Titanic never sank and may not have even existed (the "no ship" theory).
 
Funny, the Titanic Sinking occured just off the shores of the Maritimes here in Canada, yet not a single person here has ever declared "Da Joos" did it either.

As for finding a "Hardfire" guest, well you have the low down on that...they fear debating someone who won't let them change the topic, or the goal posts, someone who actually has a good grasp of both the factual information on all aspects of the attacks, but also a excellent grasp on the CTs, their talking points, and their tactics.

TAM:)
 
Zionist icebergs couldn't have made a hole that big, it was made bigger with thermote.

survivors said that when the ship struck it sounded like an explosion!!!
 
pomeroo said:
One night last week I watched "Hollywood Science" on the National Geographic channel. This particular episode dealt with the making of the movie "Titanic." Apart from the special effects wizardry on display, I was fascinated by James Cameron's approach to the project, his total immersion in his subject. The man made over ten trips to the wreck of the ship, each time descending two miles below the surface of the Atlantic. One bit of information struck me as appropriate for posting on this forum: Efforts to determine why the unsinkable Titantic failed to live up to its billing were hampered by the contradictory accounts of the survivors. More than seven hundred people lived to tell the tale, but the tales they told differed wildly. It wasn't until the wreck was discovered in 1985 that investigators finally gained a clear understanding of the exact cause of the sinking.
Most of you see where I'm headed. Apparently, it didn't occur to anyone that Joooos had whisked off the real Titanic to parts unknown, substituted a duplicate vessel, and sank it by means of a futuristic technology. In other words, despite the varied and often contradictory accounts of the survivors, everyone got the idea that the liner hit an iceberg and went down.

I'm still trying to find a twoofer willing to discuss WTC 7 on 'Hardfire.' Retired FDNY battalion chief Arthur Scheuerman has agreed to appear and I trust that Mark is available. But where are the fantasists to expose those two shills? The plea I posted on the C.H.A.N.G.E. site has gone unanswered. Curious, no?
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What's Avery said?
 
Stellafane said:
From what I understand, witnesses couldn't even agree on seemingly trivial and straightforward details such as what song the band was playing when the ship sank. Had there been CTers back in the day, they'd have taken this as irrefutable proof the Titanic never sank and may not have even existed (the "no ship" theory).
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There's more about the Titanic that illustrates how confused information about a disaster can become. While there has never been, and never will be, a definitive list or count of the dead, did you know that there is no provably correct list or even count of the survivors?

Imagine that. For several days after the sinking, all of the survivors, bar none were gathered in one place- the Carpathia- perfect conditions for obtaining an accurate list. But the two official inquiries, American and British, arrived at different numbers of survivors and, if I remember my reading on the subject correctly, at least five different respectably supported estimates of the number of survivors have been published.

The problems with the survivor lists aren't hard to understand. Non-English names (the Titanic carried passengers hailing from countries ranging from Sweden to Lebanon) transcribed by English-speakers untrained in other languages(in one list I've read the Swedish immigrant Anna Sjoblom appears twice under two different manglings of her last name; cf. assorted "the hijackers are still alive" claims), the rapid dispersal of survivors once the Carpathia reached New York and the confusion associated with rescue and relief operations where helping people is given higher priority than doing the bookkeeping all contributed.

The point of all this? Simply that even in the most-studied transportation disaster in history prior to 9/11, there are a number of details which simply cannot be proven with the kind of 9th-grade-geometry-class-proof neatness CTers love to demand of the "official story"- even things like the names and number of the survivors, which in hindsight really could have been determined without any doubt.
 
pomeroo said:
I'm still trying to find a twoofer willing to discuss WTC 7 on 'Hardfire.' Retired FDNY battalion chief Arthur Scheuerman has agreed to appear and I trust that Mark is available. But where are the fantasists to expose those two shills? The plea I posted on the C.H.A.N.G.E. site has gone unanswered. Curious, no?
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I think at this point you're going to have to give the opposition some sort of advantage, if you're going to get anybody willing to go up against Mark. Maybe you could require that Gravy give his answers in pig latin, in a high, squeaky voice. Or have him take a shot of Bacardi 151 everytime the opposition says "free fall speed into its own footprint."
 
Even though some of the world's richest and most famous passengers were on the ship, not a single video was made of the Titanic sinking.

HOW CONVENIENT!!!
 
False. I've seen it. But let me tell you, it looks like CGI to me.......
 
Some of the details weren't that minor either. Some reported that the ship broke in two before going down, others reported that the bow sunk first and that the stern raised up out of the waters and then it slid straight down. Quite different accounts.
 
Furi said:
Zionist icebergs couldn't have made a hole that big, it was made bigger with thermote.

survivors said that when the ship struck it sounded like an explosion!!!
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Shill!

It was thermice! And it was an implosion!

Show me one, just one, youtube video that supports your claim! You can't can you? Open your eyes...!!!!!
 
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ktesibios said:
There's more about the Titanic that illustrates how confused information about a disaster can become. While there has never been, and never will be, a definitive list or count of the dead, did you know that there is no provably correct list or even count of the survivors?

Imagine that. For several days after the sinking, all of the survivors, bar none were gathered in one place- the Carpathia- perfect conditions for obtaining an accurate list. But the two official inquiries, American and British, arrived at different numbers of survivors and, if I remember my reading on the subject correctly, at least five different respectably supported estimates of the number of survivors have been published.

The problems with the survivor lists aren't hard to understand. Non-English names (the Titanic carried passengers hailing from countries ranging from Sweden to Lebanon) transcribed by English-speakers untrained in other languages(in one list I've read the Swedish immigrant Anna Sjoblom appears twice under two different manglings of her last name; cf. assorted "the hijackers are still alive" claims), the rapid dispersal of survivors once the Carpathia reached New York and the confusion associated with rescue and relief operations where helping people is given higher priority than doing the bookkeeping all contributed.

The point of all this? Simply that even in the most-studied transportation disaster in history prior to 9/11, there are a number of details which simply cannot be proven with the kind of 9th-grade-geometry-class-proof neatness CTers love to demand of the "official story"- even things like the names and number of the survivors, which in hindsight really could have been determined without any doubt.
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Thank you for finally blowing this story wide open!!!

Patently obvious to those who have studied this tragedy.
 
Furi ICEPOP is here

First time in history that an olympic class liner was "sunk" by an "Iceberg" ROFL

FACT: no other Olympic class liner has ever been sunk by running into an iceberg!!

The fact that white star and Cunard later merged, should be all the proof you need, insurance that was all this was about, so that White Star didn't have to pay a fine for serving substandard food to the passangers,

How convenient that they decided to use the new special SOS call instead of CQD, practically guaranteeing that they wouldn't get rescued,

anyone knows that water can't damage steel, it was designed to sail through water, and what would the supposed iceberg made up of WATER. and not just any water but water that is less dense than normal, pfffft

@Mettulus, you are just a hater, go and spread your disinfo elsewhere. MODS!!!!
 
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Another reason might be the Pursar's safe.

If there were lots of rich people on board, there might have been a lot of money in that safe, no?

Would that be a motivation?

I've also heard that the people that had started making Adirondack chair were wanting to get rid of cruise ship deck chairs. Tell me, who owned the Adirondack mountain cabins? Didn't FDR vacation there? Was there a financial interest?

Ask questions and demand answers folks.
 
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