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Twoofers Only: The Mark Roberts Factual Error Thread

well, guess REd wont be providing evidence or explain why the 100 foot claim is even pertinent to the entire day. Whether Willie was 20 feet or 300 feet, it doesn't have any effect on the events that he experienced.

Red has ignored several times that

1) Gravy interviewed Willie personally and got that 100 foot claim straight from him
2) seeing that Willie has embelished his story every time he's repeated it, with more detial and of course, different description, its safe to assume that his "100 foot" claim to gravy could have been a different distance on that day . it could have been 400 feet and of course, since Willie likes to sensationlize his stories, he reduced it to 100 feet. Still has no effect to any relevance of what happened that day.


Since Red Ibis has nothing to offer but the same boring tactics that he's been using since his first appearance on this board, I suggest that those of us here, should just stop responding to those, like Red, who simply repeat things they;'ve been pointed out to be wrong in the past. Just link to the previous reply and dont spend any more time in engaging.

Red Ibis will be going on ignore, as he deserves to be there. anyone who carries on like him, and other truthers, should be very ashamed and their dispicable attitudes.


We all need to stop falling to these truther tactics. Every times a truther comes here and posts inane things, repeated debunked in the past, the thread explodes to 10 pages of nonsense. They are not here to learn; they are here to "stir the ^&*".

We should be better than them, and we are falling for their tricks like Pavlov's dogs.
 
Totovader said:
You attempted to make a wager you then backed out of. I'm not sure why you think that's desperation on my part.

I never lied- I told you I was being facetious when I said I talked to Willie.

You produced no evidence, you posted comments which have not been verified, and have already been posted and addressed before.

You also failed to address the key issues here- ie my post.

I have no reason to admit I'm wrong- see my previous post on this, including me putting forth my own money to prove you're a fraud.
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I proposed the wager and it was simply that I could back up my claim that I talked to Rodriguez. I challenged you to back up your claim, then you admitted you were being facetious. I wasn't.

Is this what you call, ummm, the "Bruce Lee effect"?
 
Arus808 said:
I suggest that those of us here, should just stop responding to those, like Red, who simply repeat things they;'ve been pointed out to be wrong in the past. Just link to the previous reply and dont spend any more time in engaging.

Red Ibis will be going on ignore, as he deserves to be there. anyone who carries on like him, and other truthers, should be very ashamed and their dispicable attitudes.
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Unless it was in response to some personal abuse, I always feel like the "ignore" move is the white flag of internet debates. It's truly a cowardly way to carry on.
 
I proposed the wager and it was simply that I could back up my claim that I talked to Rodriguez. I challenged you to back up your claim, then you admitted you were being facetious. I wasn't.
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See, what this proves is that 9-11 was an inside job.

Duh.
 
Interesting to note the differences between the two versions of this email you have posted... showing that it's not a cut and paste job:

Version 1 said:
Also I have never told him I was 100 feet from the Towers he lied about that as well.
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Version 2 said:
Also I have never told him I was 100 feet from the Towers, He lied about that as well.
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Let me guess, you're just retyping it from memory, right?
 
Totovader said:
Interesting to note the differences between the two versions of this email you have posted... showing that it's not a cut and paste job:





Let me guess, you're just retyping it from memory, right?
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Yeah, I retyped the whole email in a few minutes from memory. Is that your big evidence of a cover up? More like the spacing out of my email was such that I eliminated spaces and probably added the capital letter. Scandalous.
 
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RedIbis said:
I proposed the wager and it was simply that I could back up my claim that I talked to Rodriguez. I challenged you to back up your claim, then you admitted you were being facetious. I wasn't.

Is this what you call, ummm, the "Bruce Lee effect"?
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Of course- a wager that actually has some significance would be far too damaging to your lies.

As I said- if you can prove that Willie sent a correction to Mark, I will give you $100. If not, I do expect that money.

That would be a wager relevant to your case (also the one where I bet you couldn't explain how the figure was relevant, but you ignored that one altogether).

You're sort of insignificant, huh?
 
RedIbis said:
Yeah, I retyped the whole email in a few minutes from memory. Is that your big evidence of a cover up, gee sounds like a conspiracy theory?
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It's evidence that your story doesn't add up.

Copying and pasting from an email or a saved document will not change the case or punctuation of the copied text.

Something else obviously occurred. Either you typed it yourself, or you modified the text. Since you are unwilling to provide any proof of the email itself, this inconsistency to your claim is all I have to go on- and it confirms your history of deception.
 
Totovader said:
Of course- a wager that actually has some significance would be far too damaging to your lies.

As I said- if you can prove that Willie sent a correction to Mark, I will give you $100. If not, I do expect that money.

That would be a wager relevant to your case (also the one where I bet you couldn't explain how the figure was relevant, but you ignored that one altogether).

You're sort of insignificant, huh?
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That's not what the wager was. Go back and read it again.
 
Totovader said:
Of course- a wager that actually has some significance would be far too damaging to your lies.

As I said- if you can prove that Willie sent a correction to Mark, I will give you $100. If not, I do expect that money.

That would be a wager relevant to your case (also the one where I bet you couldn't explain how the figure was relevant, but you ignored that one altogether).

You're sort of insignificant, huh?
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RedIbis said:
That's not what the wager was. Go back and read it again.
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You proposed a wager- I rejected it based on the fact that your wager was a false assumption. Really, it doesn't matter, because you're incapable of even backing up that claim.

Still- you need to read what I wrote above- the wager I propose is much more to the heart of the matter. The only reason you would choose to ignore it or dismiss it is because you're actually terrified of the facts- and entirely unwilling to be consistent in your claims.

I'm giving you a chance to man up- I don't think it's necessary for me to continue to do this.
 
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RedIbis said:
Yeah, I retyped the whole email in a few minutes from memory. Is that your big evidence of a cover up? More like the spacing out of my email was such that I eliminated spaces and probably added the capital letter. Scandalous.
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I noticed that you edited your explanation, here. Now all the sudden you know what the difference was?

What software do you use that would put the wrong punctuation in an email that you copied and pasted? That would be an incredibly stupid feature to have in an email application.
 
Gravy said:
Xena, you have repeatedly posted here to make snide remarks about me.
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Okay Mark...

I accept your apology.














Why you have chosen to behave this way, only you can say. Whining will not advance any argument you have to make about 9/11. I don't care what you think about me. I do care about the events of 9/11. Do you? You don't show it, and you haven't once attempted to discuss those events on this discussion forum.

Please be aware that you have a choice. No one is forcing you to behave this way. You can continue feebly whining about how much you dislike me and others, or you can behave like a rational adult and discuss and learn. Good luck with your decision. :)[/QUOTE]
 
Xena, let me say this again. You have a bizarre and extremely unhealthy obsession with Mark Roberts. I'm not sure why. Maybe you need some deep reflection to ask yourself, "Why do I care so much about this person on an internet skeptic forum?" Hopefully you can find an answer and get on with your life.
 
Totovader said:
I noticed that you edited your explanation, here. Now all the sudden you know what the difference was?

What software do you use that would put the wrong punctuation in an email that you copied and pasted? That would be an incredibly stupid feature to have in an email application.
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Stop looking for a conspiracy where there is none. It's called the space bar. When you cut and paste out of an email it leaves lots of unnecessary spaces. I took out the spaces, chopped of the h and mistakenly replaced it with a capital letter. Big rule 8 deal.
 
tomwaits said:
Xena, let me say this again. You have a bizarre and extremely unhealthy obsession with Mark Roberts. I'm not sure why. Maybe you need some deep reflection to ask yourself, "Why do I care so much about this person on an internet skeptic forum?" Hopefully you can find an answer and get on with your life.
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I've been accused of much the same. I can't speak for Xena but I'll say this. When you stroll onto this forum and so much as pose a question that raises doubt about the official story you are greeted with an aresenal of name calling, contentiousness, and some generally silly behavior. Mark is not polite, objective, friendly or civil. When he's met with aggressive tactics his only recourse is to use the ignore function.
 
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