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Why is homosexuality wrong?

And you are once again attacking ME instead of addressing the question at hand.

You don't want to believe that I worship Ganesha. Deny my feelings, my thoughts, my influences, my beliefs, my words all you want. Because then you won't have to question the validity of your own.

Am I Hindu in the traditional sense? No, I'm really not. Do I still talk to Ganesha and admire him, and worship him in my own way? You bet your sweet ass I do. Do I look to him for guidence, for inspiration, for wisdom, and am I a better person for it? Yes. I love Ganesha, everything he stands for, and everything he gives me makes me a better person who is filled with love and understanding of the world around me and my fellow man. Ganesha gives me love, brings me peace and understanding, and I can FEEL it.

Do I feel in my heart of hearts that there is a magical elephant-headed four-armed broken-tusked man walking around me, watching over me on an otherworldly plane that I cannot see? No. That's just silly.

How I am influenced and interpret my God, how my personal God makes me feel is no more right or wrong than your own.
 
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Because you are just some silly guy posting on the web, and I have no good reason to believe otherwise.
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I find it interesting that you only use reason when it suits you. You abandon all logic and reason to believe that your god exists, but you use it to believe that FSM isn't a god. Your belief in a god is just silly, and this proves it.
 
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Uhm, there are plenty of people who say they feel God's love. Do you really think they are all pretending? You didn't in your other posts - you called them delusional, not pretending.
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Yes, and delusional people are simply pretending without knowing they are pretending.
 
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If you remember, I asserted this for me, not for the other people. If I would assert that the feelings of everyone can lead to the truth, I would be in a contradiction.
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In other words, you are arrogantly proclaiming that you are infallible, reason be damned.
 
JetLeg, I think you are seriously confusing the feeling with the thing you attribute it to. I surmise that we all feel the same things, more or less. When we feel that life is good, we feel it no matter what we believe about how the universe is generated or administered. If you are inclined to believe that there is a god that loves us, you say you feel God's love. If your deity is Ganesh, then you feel Ganesh's love. If you do not attribute your good fortune to the actions of any gods, this does not render you insensate, you simply attribute your good feeling to something else. Even if you're a totally materialistic atheist, and attribute the feeling entirely to synapses and electrical impulses, you feel it nonetheless. I do not believe that there is any way you can parse the feeling itself, and find God's love inherent in it. The attribution comes from a source other than the feeling itself, even if you decide to go Kantian and believe it's a priori.

Edited to add this: If you're going to assert that the God's love is inherent in the feeling, and not imposed by belief, then you need to figure out a plausible explanation for why everybody does not attribute it to the same thing. If you suggest that the reason is simply that if you don't feel God's love it demonstrates that God does not love you, then you have to account for similar feelings, attributed to other sources. If you feel God's love, and Zombie feel's Ganesh's love, does this prove that there are multiple Gods? If not, why not?

If it is true that God's love is the thing you feel itself, and not the attributed explanation you add to the feeling you have, then can you explain why it is necessary to teach religion at all? Is God just not doing a very good job?
 
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What makes JetLeg so special in gods eyes the he gets to "feel" gods love and I didn't when I was a believer?

Are gods powers limited to only showing the love to JetLeg?
 
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And now we return to the original topic of the thread.

No need to thank us.
 
Holy Immaterial, Caped Crusader!
Had meant to post this this morning as support for the nascent straight rights movement:
Ian Osborne said:
Exactly. I'm sick to death of gays saying heterosexuality is just a phase I'm going through. It's the way I am, OK? I like the opposite sex. That doesn't make me a bad person.
I'm also fed up of being told I only like women because I can't get a 'proper' man. Look, I didn't ask to be born straight. It's not my fault and there's nothing I can do about it, so can you at least try to accept me as I am?
Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to find a militant straight rights organisation to join...
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... but that was before Jetlag waded into a spaghetti storm! :)
Well, if we can all just for a moment journey back to what is now the dim prehistory of this thread, here be my irrelevant rejoinder to yon post:

And what about all those extra epithets for homosexuals, when heterosexuals only get one, "straight", and it's not even an epithet?
Is this part of that "gay agenda" we hear so much about: if the queers, queens, fags, fairies, fruits, poofs, ponces, nancies, lezs, dykes, butchs, femmes, homos, can't physically, they'll outnumber us... linguistically!?
Oh, they are cunning, these faerie folk... well I say, enough's enough!
{Won't you please, PLEASE help in the fight against hetero epithetic inequality?}

Seeking candidates for heterosexual epithets
Must be short, snappy, easy to work with in jokes, chitchat or derision.
Candidate: Fig.
Derivation: FIG -- a false fruit; leaves worn by the original heteros, Adam & Eve; acronym: Fornication Inter-Gender.
E.g. slur: "Hey fig, why don't you go make love to someone of the opposite gender, ya big fig newton?!"
Some others already rejected: ma&pajammers, babymakers, submarine commanders(?), walmart security(???).
Remember, give generously; only you can prevent hetero epithetic inequality. :(

...we now return you to your irregularly scheduled derail (barely gonna feel that writers' strike at all with this thread).
 
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The worst humiliation any man can face is intercourse with another man.

:):):)
 
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