RFID Tags

[h.g.Whiz]

I found out that they are putting rfid's in brick now to improve the manufactoring process . But the I forsee a greater purpose for them in the actual building process

 

[technoextreme]

I found out that they are putting rfid's in brick now to improve the manufactoring process . But the I forsee a greater purpose for them in the actual building process

Can I see a link? Not to mention what greater purpose is there?

 

[h.g.Whiz]

Can I see link? Not to what greater purpose is there?

sorry cant give you a link. this is my first post


If the material estimating spectrum among commercial construction trades was compared to planets in our solar system with the sun being 100% accuracy you would have to go the Andromeda Galaxy to find the masonry planet. But if you live on planet Fire protection You would need just that Fire protection because they have acheive 100 % accuracy

For example, I swiped a nut off of piece of all thread over the weekend , Monday this comes man says to me he's missing a nut and was hoping I could help him find it, he couldn't finish with out it. His company sends the exactly enough material to finish, no more no less . They have zero waste , even his empty boxes go back to the shop to be refilled for the next job.


As for masonry,a typical commercial brick or block job produces more than double the volume of waste of all the other trades combined. I can remember a job (ROOMS TO GO) where we had 20,000 Block left over not to mention an even larger
volume of waste of left over pieces over from cuts.
thats at least a 40,000 block.Now figure in the 7 dollars block. Thats right 280,000 dollars could have been saved.
But we still made good money on that job.

Suppose that each block rfid's in them and they gave info such as how many were laid , the size of every cut, and the location of each one. When we build the next
Rooms To Go the 280,000 profit i just mentioned is just the tip of the ice berg . an even greater profit can be made by eliminating cuts. Picture if you will a nascar race
and every lap is different and uncharted full of suprises
from the previous and every car in the race is yours (the bricklayers) and 75 % of your cars have to pit every other lap . (time in the pit represents time waiting on cuts) Eliminating cuts means never having to pit . not to mention no more inhalation of toxic dust that goes with cutting.

rfids make it possible to make a virtual map of the building giving each block an idenity and a predetermined destination.
now you give your bricklayers an ear piece so that when he lays the block he hears beeping frequencies according to how close he getting to the desired location, meaning that success results in a Sustained tone. Now not only do your race car \ bricklayers have an auto pilot at they 're leisure.

That's a lot of potential profit . But if you possessed such a technology first i believe even bigger revenue to be made if you did it right .

 

[666]

Can I see a link? Not to mention what greater purpose is there?

I found this.

A new RFID system* centered around high-temperature-resistant tags mounted on kiln cars is being used to automatically and efficiently track brick as it moves through various stages of the brick making process, from setting through dehacking.

But nothing about RFID on individual bricks.
ETA: And Google doesn't seem return anything containing the large quote above.
P.S. You can post a link with embedded spaces.

 

[ServiceSoon]

pick one:
1)on the actual bricks
2)on skids of bricks

 

[Brown]

They put RFIDs in the snack foods in the vending machine. Sure, it was originally intended to determine whether you really went to the bathroom to poo or whether you were in there doing the Sudoku.

But now they're monitoring you to aquire information so that they can blackmail you into working longer hours for less money, or to deny you benefits if you try to quit. The next inevitable step is slavery.

You read it here first.

 

[h.g.Whiz]

pick one:
1)on the actual bricks
2)on skids of bricks

on the brick the bricks of course


but it wont be long before the question becomes what products do not have rfid's.
i figure kids of the future wont be able to jack from their parents vice versa

 

[ServiceSoon]

on the brick the bricks of course

and in your above scenario how many total blocks did it take to build this building?

 

[Cuddles]

Holy FSM! You mean to say they'll be able to track my house, wherever it goes?

 

[CurtC]

For example, I swiped a nut off of piece of all thread over the weekend

I don't know what any of that means.

Suppose that each block rfid's in them and they gave info such as how many were laid , the size of every cut, and the location of each one.

Yeah, suppose each brick were sentient and could tell you where it wanted to be in the wall. Then maybe if it had legs and arms it could slap on some mortar and put itself in place, no bricklayer required. Man, that would be great!

now you give your bricklayers an ear piece so that when he lays the block he hears beeping frequencies according to how close he getting to the desired location, meaning that success results in a Sustained tone. Now not only do your race car \ bricklayers have an auto pilot at they 're leisure.

I can just see this - the bricklayer grabs a brick, and with the clues of beeping in his ear, goes to the spot where this brick is supposed to go. But oh noes! This one is for up high on the wall, and we're still laying courses down low. He'll have to wait! So the bricklayer takes that one back and grabs another to see if that's the one designed for the single place where the mortar is ready for it to be placed. Oh yeah, that's efficient and I'm sure is the future of bricklaying.

 

[Zygar]

Not to mention the fact that sometimes you have to cut a brick!

Imagine if the rfid got cut!!! How would the brick know where it belonged? What if you cut a brick in half and one side didn't have an rfid!!! The horror!!!

 

[Gravy]

sorry cant give you a link. this is my first post


If the material estimating spectrum among commercial construction trades was compared to planets in our solar system with the sun being 100% accuracy you would have to go the Andromeda Galaxy to find the masonry planet. But if you live on planet Fire protection You would need just that Fire protection because they have acheive 100 % accuracy

There's zero waste in the fire protection trade? How cool! How impossible!

For example, I swiped a nut off of piece of all thread over the weekend , Monday this comes man says to me he's missing a nut and was hoping I could help him find it, he couldn't finish with out it.

So he came to you and found the nut?

As for masonry,a typical commercial brick or block job produces more than double the volume of waste of all the other trades combined. I can remember a job (ROOMS TO GO) where we had 20,000 Block left over not to mention an even larger
volume of waste of left over pieces over from cuts.
thats at least a 40,000 block.Now figure in the 7 dollars block. Thats right 280,000 dollars could have been saved.
But we still made good money on that job.

Yes, we all know that if not used immediately, masonry bricks and blocks must be destroyed, for the protection of humanity.

Suppose that each block rfid's in them and they gave info such as how many were laid , the size of every cut, and the location of each one. When we build the next
Rooms To Go the 280,000 profit i just mentioned is just the tip of the ice berg . an even greater profit can be made by eliminating cuts. Picture if you will a nascar race
and every lap is different and uncharted full of suprises
from the previous and every car in the race is yours (the bricklayers) and 75 % of your cars have to pit every other lap . (time in the pit represents time waiting on cuts) Eliminating cuts means never having to pit . not to mention no more inhalation of toxic dust that goes with cutting.

rfids make it possible to make a virtual map of the building giving each block an idenity and a predetermined destination.

Let's think about the labor involved in planning individual brick layouts, implanting each brick with an RFID chip encoded with individualized information (How? Try baking a RFID in a kiln.), using only high-powered RFIDs that produce a block-penetrating signal, making sure the RFIDs are survivable, somehow keeping those bricks separate from those to be used on other jobs, stacking them so the first needed would be the first accessible, somehow marking them so that laborers would know this, and then using a rangefinding scanner to identify thousands of individual (but identical) bricks on the jobsite, so that they can be placed in order. And if a RFID malfunctions, you've got a hole in the wall. Compare that to: grab brick off pile. Butter with mortar. Place on wall.

Then again, let's not think about that.

now you give your bricklayers an ear piece so that when he lays the block he hears beeping frequencies according to how close he getting to the desired location, meaning that success results in a Sustained tone.

45 minutes later, the brick is successfully put in place.

 

[Lensman]

The posts by the OP are just about indecipherable to me (is English his first language?) - how do you guys manage to to work out what he's trying to say?

 

[The Man]

As a technical consultant, I like this idea and just about any ideas that make things more technically complicated (helps keep me employed).

I can just see it now, I get the emergency call and go out to the site where all brick laying has stopped.
The foreman comes to me and says “This is suppose to be brick 0808 but it reads as 8080”
After considering all the complex technical implications I respond “Your holding it the wrong way, just turn it around and you’ll be fine”

Latter, another customer, a recently completed Wallmart, has a problem with their automatic inventory system. For some reason it keeps showing an inventory of 673,456 bricks when they don’t stock bricks. I give them an exaggerated quote to fix the problem.

Finally, to round out my day, a shipping company has a problem. When a shipment of bricks goes through a toll both they get multiple charges on their EZ pass. I charge them a lot of money and tell them to wrap each load of bricks in aluminum foil.


I can just see all the opportunities this future has.

 

[h.g.Whiz]

Approximately 100,000 12inch splitface block

 

[Gravy]

The posts by the OP are just about indecipherable to me (is English his first language?) - how do you guys manage to to work out what he's trying to say?

After a year and a half posting in the conspiracy theories subforum, translating this stuff is second nature to me.

 

[h.g.Whiz]

I don't know what any of that means.

the point i was trying to make was that his companys material estimation is so accurate that he noticed a half inch nut missing




Yeah, suppose each brick were sentient and could tell you where it wanted to be in the wall. Then maybe if it had legs and arms it could slap on some mortar and put itself in place, no bricklayer required. Man, that would be great!



I can just see this - the bricklayer grabs a brick, and with the clues of beeping in his ear, goes to the spot where this brick is supposed to go. But oh noes! This one is for up high on the wall, and we're still laying courses down low. He'll have to wait! So the bricklayer takes that one back and grabs another to see if that's the one designed for the single place where the mortar is ready for it to be placed. Oh yeah, that's efficient and I'm sure is the future of bricklaying.

generally 80 % percent of the brick in a building are identical so they would have identical codes.

if the height of a wall is 20 ft the ideal amount of courses (rows) is 90 with 3/8 inch bed joints in between them
if the brick is 1\8th low every course the you will end up with 4 more courses and if the wall is 100 brick long then will need 400 more brick . the beeping the bricklayer to lay the brick to the desired height to minimize fluxuation in the bed joints

your reply is greatly appreciated

 

[DoubtingStephen]

Is this a real troll or some clever piece of troll bot software? Without an RFID chip we may never know. I say we need to embed RFID chips in all brick masons. It's an urgent matter of national defense.

What if the terr'ists get RFID chip readers? Then they'll be able to find all of our masonry-built structures.

 

[h.g.Whiz]

There's zero waste in the fire protection trade? How cool! How impossible!

So he came to you and found the nut?

Yes, we all know that if not used immediately, masonry bricks and blocks must be destroyed, for the protection of humanity.

Let's think about the labor involved in planning individual brick layouts, implanting each brick with an RFID chip encoded with individualized information (How? Try baking a RFID in a kiln.), using only high-powered RFIDs that produce a block-penetrating signal, making sure the RFIDs are survivable, somehow keeping those bricks separate from those to be used on other jobs, stacking them so the first needed would be the first accessible, somehow marking them so that laborers would know this, and then using a rangefinding scanner to identify thousands of individual (but identical) bricks on the jobsite, so that they can be placed in order. And if a RFID malfunctions, you've got a hole in the wall. Compare that to: grab brick off pile. Butter with mortar. Place on wall.

Then again, let's not think about that.

45 minutes later, the brick is successfully put in place.

the brick are soaked in a solution cotaining microscopic tag which seep in the pores of the brick after they are baked

 

[DoubtingStephen]

the brick are soaked in a solution cotaining microscopic tag which seep in the pores of the brick after they are baked

Does this harm someone? In what way, if so?