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Is LIHOP plausible?

Part of the problem is decideing exactly where let it happen on purpose ends. If You got a few hints that something was afoot but no real details as to what and did nothing would that be LIHOP?
 
From a risk-benefit perspective, not plausible.
 
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What's with the 'On Purpose' part anyway? You can't know it is going to happen and not do anything about it on accident, and you especially can't plant explosives on accident.
 
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Gravy said:
From a risk-benefit perspective, not plausible.
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That's why the truthers need the Iluminati/NWO/what-ever-else to make their theories work. If the Bush administration was just another administration, they wouldn't risk such an abominable conspiracy, but if they are a part of a bigger, vast entity, that's been doing this sort of things freely and unnoticed for centuries, then it's just business as usual.
 
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LIHOP is not plausible, because it would have afforded too little control to US military deception planners (MILDEC).

Remember, the motive for 911 was to manufacture consent for a series of illegal invasions. Those attacks required enormous planning efforts, spanning years. The attacks had to go forward, and hence 911 had to go forward. LIHOP would have exposed planners to uncertainty.

MIHOP, in stark contrast, gave MILDEC planners total control, and enabled them to use the tiniest team possible - a key to successful deception maintenance.

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MIHOP gave no one 'more control' as it simply increased the number of things that could go wrong with every level of complexity one wishes to believe in whether its a stand down order or fabricating live video of planes into towers.

The more things one has to control the worse the chances of being able to maintain control, compounded by the complexity of the actions required. ( fabricating live videos is much more complex than planting a few bombs)

The simplest LIHOP theory would be that Al-Qada does exist as a fundementalist Islamic group dedicated to Jihad to drive infidels from the middle east and that they caried out a plan to hijack 4 aircraft on US soil and fly them into buildings , AND that some level of detail of this plot was detected by the alphabet agency(s) but allowed to go ahead in order to shock the nation.

Once the planes had been hijacked nothing need be done to clear their way. If the do get intercepted then they will have forced the POTUS to kill hundreds of his own citizens. That is least likely to occur with the first aircraft since it would have required an quite extrodinary set of events to get a shootdown order for that plane. That makes it an almost certainty that t least one plane will go into a WTC tower.

The rest could all crash into feilds in the middle of no where and still the USA would have gone to war in Afgahnistan. Hell, all 4 could crash into feilds and with the attacks ON US soil killing hundreds of civilians, the US would have gone to war in Afgahnistan.

Such an event would be seen as much more in need of a retaliatory attack than blowing up embassies in Africa or putting a big hole in a US warship. Those attacks occured "over there", not at home.

So what is the most anyone had to do? Delay any investigation into the mildly suspicious activity of the hijackers prior to 9/11/01, that's it!
 
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Good Lt said:
  • Would you consider (disregarding available evidence) LIHOP to be plausible?
No. Saying it's possible is certainly fair. Saying it's plausible (ie, likely) is ludicrous.

It is possible that I could be struck by lightning three times today. However, there is such a minuscule, infinitesimally small chance of this occurring that it becomes completely implausible while still being remotely possible.
  • Taking evidence into consideration, do you believe that LIHOP is plausible?
No. There is too far much evidence to the contrary and none in the affirmative.
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Please do not use the lightning metaphor, I was struck 3 times in 14 minutes on a C Farmall Tractor.
Well the Tractor and the cab took the most of it, but it still left my hair singed and some funny little red blood vessels in a private spot.

I agree though things that are possible are often Improbable.
 
bofors said:
You might find Arabesque's essay on "Disinformation and the Misleading and False LIHOP/MIHOP Dichotomy" interesting: http://arabesque911.blogspot.com/2007/11/disinformation-and-false-lihopmihop_06.html

If the Israeli Mossad planted the controlled demoltions and the arab hijackers actually flew the planes to their targets, all Dick Cheney had to do was order a NORAD standdown and otherwise ensure that the US "looked the other way" (in other words a LIHOP scenerio), what is the significant difference between MIHOP and LIHOP?

Either way it is treason.
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Wow, you've found a way to make LIHOP sound completely stupid.

I guess if anyone could do it, it would be you.
 
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Loss Leader said:
So, why would the Bush administration be so sure that they could sell the American people on the fact that Iraq was the enemy and not the Saudis? Granted, they did actually manage to confuse many Americans on this very issue. But why would they be so confident as to think they could?
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"Hey, they were dumb enough to elect us."
 
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geni said:
Part of the problem is decideing exactly where let it happen on purpose ends. If You got a few hints that something was afoot but no real details as to what and did nothing would that be LIHOP?
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The problem with LIHOP is that if you allow desperate suicidal terrorists to do whatever they want, they might do just about anything. They could detonate a nuke in Washington DC. They could assassinate the president. They could do huge economic damage. Nations generally don't like being under terrorist attack. It's very unpredictable.

As to how you let it happen - if you don't know what they're planning to do, how do you let them do it? Unless you effectively have the terrorists under your control, which is virtually MIHOP anyway.

LIHDTI (Let It Happen Due To Incompetence) is certainly a possibility.
 
bofors said:
You might find Arabesque's essay on "Disinformation and the Misleading and False LIHOP/MIHOP Dichotomy" interesting: http://arabesque911.blogspot.com/2007/11/disinformation-and-false-lihopmihop_06.html

If the Israeli Mossad planted the controlled demoltions and the arab hijackers actually flew the planes to their targets, all Dick Cheney had to do was order a NORAD standdown and otherwise ensure that the US "looked the other way" (in other words a LIHOP scenerio), what is the significant difference between MIHOP and LIHOP?

Either way it is treason.
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Either way it's SPECULATION, you mean.

"All" he had to do ? This isn't the X-Files, bloke. Do you have any idea how many people they'd have to ensure would look the other way ?
 
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Either way it's SPECULATION, you mean.

"All" he had to do ? This isn't the X-Files, bloke. Do you have any idea how many people they'd have to ensure would look the other way ?
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You are so ignorant. The reason they pulled all of it off is BECAUSE of the Smoking Man. He is the link to everything. Look for the man with a pack of Morleys.
 
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