Is Science getting closer to God and the Bible?

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Originally Posted by DOC
I don't mean to insult. I'm just speaking reality. A publicly admitted atheist can't get elected president in the US and probably not a US Senator either. That's just the reality in America 2007.


Ducky said:
Not familiar with Ernie Chambers then?
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I said a US Senator not a state senator.

And I notice he filed a lawsuit against God.

On September 14, 2007, Sen. Chambers filed a lawsuit against God, seeking a permanent injunction ordering God to "cease certain harmful activities and the making of terroristic threats...of grave harm to innumerable persons, including constituents of Plaintiff who Plaintiff has the duty to represent".[11]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernie_Chambers
 
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wolfgirl said:
So your "loving" god would command the president to kill, maim and deform millions of people because their leader is bad? What a guy!
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Well a lot of people thought Harry Truman was quite a guy.
 
Ladewig said:
He {DOC} ignores Matthew 10:14. Jesus says that if people do not welcome you or receive your message, then you should leave.
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Matthew 10:14 says this:

"And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet."

The verse says "when" you leave, not that you should leave. And besides I'm not forcing my beliefs on anyone -- people are coming into my threads. If I happen to go into someone else's thread and they want me to leave, I'll leave.



There have been many posts where JREFers have indicated to DOC that his actions drive people further away from Christianity.
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If this were true, then atheists should be polite to me instead of bitter and rude, because I would be driving people into their camp. I don't see many people being polite to me.
 
DOC said:
Matthew 10:14 says this:

"And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet."

The verse says "when" you leave, not that you should leave. And besides I'm not forcing my beliefs on anyone -- people are coming into my threads. If I happen to go into someone else's thread and they want me to leave, I'll leave.

If this were true, then atheists should be polite to me instead of bitter and rude, because I would be driving people into their camp. I don't see many people being polite to me.
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That's the habit on this sub forum, among many of its deinzens, to take the chip on the shoulder approach and sneer at Christians.

I sometimes sneer back, and sometimes don't. This rudeness is hardly of import, Doc, if your posts are consistently self damning. One almost thinks you are begging for it, with the aim of being a martyr.

Doing yourself, and your faith, no favors.

DR
 
DOC said:
If I happen to go into someone else's thread and they want me to leave, I'll leave.
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Again, no one can dictate who can or cannot post to any thread, unless a thread is designated as "Moderated". No one can tell you to leave their thread, just as you cannot tell anyone to leave yours.

If this were true, then atheists should be polite to me instead of bitter and rude, because I would be driving people into their camp. I don't see many people being polite to me.
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That is mainly due to the fact that you are not listening to people's points, and seem to be refusing to learn anything. A discussion is a two-way street, and all of your posts have been one way.
 
Dear DOC,

I can't help noticing that you have either overlooked or conveniently ignored my post from a few days ago where I questioned your assertion of credibility

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DOC said:
People may try to lessen my credibility, but they are destroying their own in the process.
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Dear DOC,

Please explain how you merit ANY credibility when you start threads like this, with links to absurdly stupid sites like creationevidence.org

Majestic
SCIENTIFIC ALLUSIONS IN SCRIPTURE…
Dr. Henry Morris of the Institute for Creation Research has compiled an impressive list of allusions to scientific principles in Scripture
Meteorology
  • Relation of Electricity to Rain: Job 28:26; Jeremiah 10:13
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Job 28:26 (King James Version)
26When he made a decree for the rain, and a way for the lightning of the thunder:

Jeremiah 10:13 (King James Version)
13When he uttereth his voice, there is a multitude of waters in the heavens, and he causeth the vapours to ascend from the ends of the earth; he maketh lightnings with rain, and bringeth forth the wind out of his treasures.
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So... please...

either
  • explain why you feel able to claim credibility
or
  • admit that you have the less credibility than the pink unicorn in my garden

Thank you
 
Safe-Keeper said:
A lot of people thought Joseph Stalin was quite a guy, too. Your point:confused:?
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Being from Norway, you might not realize that Harry Truman was the President who dropped 2 nuclear weapons on two Japanese cities. He was subsequently elected to a second term by a very Christian United States.

One of my points is that there can be very serious horrible consequences when you go against God and Godly nations. Just like the bible says there will be horrible consequences when you rebel against God.
 
DOC said:
Being from Norway, you might not realize that Harry Truman was the President who dropped 2 nuclear weapons on two Japanese cities.
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:mgbanghead

DOC, for your info: the ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ entire world knows about the only nuclear warfare that ever happend. Okay?
 
DOC said:
There have been many posts where JREFers have indicated to DOC that his actions drive people further away from Christianity.
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If this were true, then atheists should be polite to me instead of bitter and rude, because I would be driving people into their camp. I don't see many people being polite to me.
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It appears that, although you are trying to use logic, you don't really understand how it works

For example: Atropa belladonna. To the unwitting, it might sound like a 'nice lady', but it's fruit is hallucinogenic and so highly toxic that as few as three berries can kill a child

As a reminder, many people use less-enticing names such as deadly nightshade, banewort, devil's cherries, etc and many sensible parents will show their children what it looks like and then kill* any specimens (of A. belladonna, not H. sapien) in the family garden. This is - I think you'll agree - an altogther 'impolite' way of dealing with an otherwise rather attractive plant

Of course, local control will not eradicate the problem as the plant is quite widespread and wandering through the countryside is an activity that many think is beneficial for the development of healthy young minds and bodies, especially when the children are familiar with and aware of plants with dangerously mind-altering properties

In a similar vein, being unduly polite to you is not necessary when the goal is to alert innocent minds that flowery waffly woo is potentially toxic.

So, please, don't think it's logical that your posts should promote polite responses

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ETA: * Please note, I am not suggesting that any wooists ought to be killed
 
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Originally Posted by DOC View Post
Being from Norway, you might not realize that Harry Truman was the President who dropped 2 nuclear weapons on two Japanese cities.


wahrheit said:
:mgbanghead

DOC, for your info: the ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ entire world knows about the only nuclear warfare that ever happend. Okay?
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Most Americans under 30 probably don't know it was Harry Truman who gave the OK for the bombs to be dropped, so its rational to assume a Norwegian didn't know.
 
DOC said:
Most Americans under 30 probably don't know it was Harry Truman who gave the OK for the bombs to be dropped, so its rational to assume a Norwegian didn't know.
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Rational to assume?:confused:

DOC said:
Well a lot of people thought Harry Truman was quite a guy.
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You weren't talking about people who don't know who Truman was
 
DOC said:
Being from Norway, you might not realize that Harry Truman was the President who dropped 2 nuclear weapons on two Japanese cities. He was subsequently elected to a second term by a very Christian United States.
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I'm confused by your point.
It seems you are saying that Christians are evil, war-loving bomb droppers.

I would disagree with this, because most christians I know are actually quite peace loving people. Why do condone such horrors? Why do you worship a god who enjoys such evil?
 
joobz said:
I'm confused by your point.
It seems you are saying that Christians are evil, war-loving bomb droppers.

I would disagree with this, because most christians I know are actually quite peace loving people. Why do condone such horrors? Why do you worship a god who enjoys such evil?
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Why do you assume that said god enjoys "such evil?"

DR
 
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