The United States Constitution

Suddenly said:
Most of it.

Completely worthless other than as a vault of unintentional comedy or if one is curious about crank political theory.
Click to expand...


So? Where was the Lecturer wrong about he Constitution? :confused:
 
Oliver said:
Did someone actually watched the Lecture?
Click to expand...

I did. I disagreed with him. He seemed far too arrogant, assuming that his interpretations of the Bill of Rights were so correct that they weren't interpretations but what the amendments actually said.
 
Oliver said:
So? Where was the Lecturer wrong about he Constitution? :confused:
Click to expand...



1) Claims that property rights implicit in the constitution allow a person who holds the manufactuer's certificate of origin for a car to drive that car without license or registration. Not so.

2) Says that based in these same rights that if a child is born to a common law marriage, the state cannot require that child to go to school, and no child welfare agency has the power to step in if the child is mistreated. Wrong.

3) Claims that in any way acknowleging your status as a "U.S. Citizen" under the 14th amendment amounts to a waiver of all constitutional rights. Common conspiracy theory with no basis in fact.

4) Claims the existence of "common law jurisdiction" required by the constitution. More conspiracy theory.

5) Claims any eminent domain taking is unconstitutional, just compensation or not. Just stupid.

6) Suggests that secret 13th amendment forbids lawyers from holding public office. Another common conspiracy theory based on the accidental publication of a never ratified amendment (that wouldn't have applied to lawyers anyway) in an addition of the Virginia Code.

7) Claims the 16th amendment (allowing for an income tax) was never really ratified. It was.

That is just off the top of my head several that can be simply stated.
 
Donal said:
Oliver, have you read the Constitution?
Click to expand...


Which Constitution? The right-, left-, Libertarian-, Fox-News-
Creationists- or the Ronald Mc Donald Constitution?

Ya know ... This is important for all the kids in this thread.

And yes. Did read it.
 
Last edited:
I don’t think anyone here has read the Constitution. If you have, you would have then realized how far we have strayed from the country the founders meant it to be, you would also realize that revolution is the only answer. The Federal government has usurped many powers and rights that belong to the States. In this case revolution is voting for Ron Paul, Voting Libertarian. In the last presidential election, I could not vote for Kerry because he is retarded. I could not vote for Bush, because I did not agree with the regime change in Iraq. I was one of the 397,265 revolutionaries who vote Libertarian. Viva la revolution!
 
The Painter said:
I don’t think anyone here has read the Constitution. If you have, you would have then realized how far we have strayed from the country the founders meant it to be, you would also realize that revolution is the only answer. The Federal government has usurped many powers and rights that belong to the States. In this case revolution is voting for Ron Paul, Voting Libertarian. In the last presidential election, I could not vote for Kerry because he is retarded. I could not vote for Bush, because I did not agree with the regime change in Iraq. I was one of the 397,265 revolutionaries who vote Libertarian. Viva la revolution!
Click to expand...

This is some pretty good satire...
 
The Painter said:
I don’t think anyone here has read the Constitution. If you have, you would have then realized how far we have strayed from the country the founders meant it to be, you would also realize that revolution is the only answer. The Federal government has usurped many powers and rights that belong to the States. In this case revolution is voting for Ron Paul, Voting Libertarian. In the last presidential election, I could not vote for Kerry because he is retarded. I could not vote for Bush, because I did not agree with the regime change in Iraq. I was one of the 397,265 revolutionaries who vote Libertarian. Viva la revolution!
Click to expand...

I read it :) ! It was very short.

And yes, I really don't see where the Dep. of Education, EPA, Social Security, Medicare, Medicade, etc. fit in.

But I prefer we keep them anyway :p .
 
Undesired Walrus said:
The US Constitution reminds me of a man who gives inspiring speeches in a grand lecture hall, only to have his audience drive home past the homeless outside their rain sprinkled car windows.
Click to expand...


That's funny because to me, the Constitution is a piece of Toilet-Paper
the last view Administrations laughed about. :boxedin:
 
I honestly am a bit saddened that every few debates has to be about this decayed piece of paper written by a bunch of crusty old blokes who have absolutely zero connection to the world today. How is the free market going to get abused children off alcohol abuse, or the second ammendment going to sort out what makes a person fire it into somebodies eye socket in the first place? That is why I see Paul as a loon.

I'm a great fan of 20th Century America, but I really find something horrible about following a strict allegiance to a document written only a few years after the founding fathers obliterated an entire race of people. Then they decided to build it up from scratch.
 
Undesired Walrus said:
I honestly am a bit saddened that every few debates has to be about this decayed piece of paper written by a bunch of crusty old blokes who have absolutely zero connection to the world today. How is the free market going to get abused children off alcohol abuse, or the second ammendment going to sort out what makes a person fire it into somebodies eye socket in the first place? That is why I see Paul as a loon.

I'm a great fan of 20th Century America, but I really find something horrible about following a strict allegiance to a document written only a few years after the founding fathers obliterated an entire race of people. Then they decided to build it up from scratch.
Click to expand...


And I agree that it's an old paper and not very conform to the
modern problems we face. But in any case, the Constitution is
the basis for the whole legal system in the US. It's hard to ignore
this fact, no matter if you're pro-life, gay, environmentalist etc...
 
Oliver said:
But in any case, the Constitution is
the basis for the whole legal system in the US. It's hard to ignore
this fact, no matter if you're pro-life, gay, environmentalist etc...
Click to expand...

But you and I have the Human Right Act, and however you feel about it, it proves how modern times have called for modern laws.

But as you are a fan, and I am not, tell me what is so great about these legal systems as outlined in the constitution? As I have big problem with what I see as a largely outdated and arrogant second ammendment act.

Back in their times it was easy to see who was on either side judging on the uniforms they wore. Now, in less ordered times, you could be anyone with any motive.
 
Remember Oliver, it is not unconstitutional to execute the mentally impaired.

Do you want somebody to uphold that disgusting piece of crap?
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Back
Top Bottom