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Richard Gage to debate CD on Toronto radio show

I loved how Gage said the lower portion of the towers should have held up the top portion because "it had been doing that for years."

In other words the man doesn't know the difference between a dynamic load and a static load.

Alfred_Packer said:
The most glaring example of his cognitive dissonance is his insistence that thermite was used because it has no distinctive sounds, that would have been picked up by every camera and video recorder in Manhattan that day, yet in the very next breath he insists that explosives were used that were powerful enough to blast the exterior panels into neat 30 foot sections and to toss them hundreds of feet laterally.
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That's exactly why I asked him about the lack of CD charges going off. It's always fun to see how a twoofer switches between CD charges and thermite depending on what piece of evidence is being discussed.
 
Please. Is there an MP3 of this available anywhere? I gotta have something to link to other sites where they have not yet grasped the dismal lack of function neurons between Gage's ears.
 
Listening Now

Seems like the host is a twoofer. Also interesting that Gage always gets the last word before every commercial break.

Oh boy, Jim Hoffman the software engineer.

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I wish the explosives expert would just ask Gage...what would be the point of thermite/mate if they're using explosives anyways?
 
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bofors said:
Let me get this straight...

Ron Craig's argument is:

(1) He would have used shaped charges.

(2) He can't figure out how to plant the demolitions.

(3) .... and that planes hit the WTC twin towers.

Hahahaha....
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is every truther on this site a "no planer"? what on earth is going on?
 
nicepants said:
Seems like the host is a twoofer. Also interesting that Gage always gets the last word before every commercial break.

Oh boy, Jim Hoffman the software engineer.

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I wish the explosives expert would just ask Gage...what would be the point of thermite/mate if they're using explosives anyways?
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Because it is super-powerful extra-explosive silent marmite thermite? :eye-poppi
 
bofors said:
Let me get this straight...

Ron Craig's argument is:

(1) He would have used shaped charges.

(2) He can't figure out how to plant the demolitions.

(3) .... and that planes hit the WTC twin towers.

Hahahaha....
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1) The argument is a valid one. In spite of the truther’s fixation with thermite, super thermite and steel eating termites, their proposed alternative has numerous technical drawbacks that they hand wave over.

2) No, that is not what he said. He said that the thruthers proposed system presents numerous logistical issues. Gage’s glossing over of these issues by ranting about the security in the building ignores those logistical issues entirely.

3) Yes, planes hit the building and the fires burned in the building, and that was enough to initiate the collapse. Gravity took care of the rest with no explosives needed.
 
Back to an issue I raised earlier. Gage implicated the elevator upgrade project as the method by which he believes that explosives were planted in the building. Let’s look at this claim. If this were true, then the elevator company, Otis, and the elevator mechanics who were permanently assigned to work in the building as well as the mechanics assigned to the elevator upgrade project. The in-house port authority as well as the outside consultants and design engineers working on and inspecting the project would have had to be part of the plan as well. Let’s not forget Frank DeMartini. As the construction manager for the towers it would have been his job to monitor and oversee all projects in the building. Finally, and most damning of all to Gage’s supposition is the fact that the elevator shafts were not adjacent to all of the core columns. In fact, the higher you went, the more core space that was used for other purposes.

All this should be obvious to a practicing architect with any experience in high rise construction and renovation.
 
For Advanced-Degreed Physicists Only!

Here is an example of where a typical layperson can go horribly astray when confronted with what he or she may assume to be an elementary physics problem. Au contraire!

Question: A 20-story building hangs suspended from a crane so that the bottom of the building is 10 feet directly above a 90-story building. Right next to this first 20-story building is another identical 20-story building suspended from another crane at an identical height above the ground, but with no building underneath it. Both cranes let go of their respective 20-story buildings at the same time. Which one hits the ground first?

Answer: This is actually a bit of a trick question.

Prior to 9/11/01, 100% of Advanced Physics Degree professionals would have agreed with the lesser-educated, "common sense" crowd and said that the building with nothing but air beneath it would strike the ground considerably faster than the other, which, quite honestly, could not really be expected to burrow its way through a 90-story building to reach the ground at all.

However, since 9/11/01, physicists have learned that the answer is actually "there will be virtually no difference in the rate of descent between the two 20-story buildings. They will both strike the ground essentially at the same time."

So you see, one must always consult one's local physics expert when questions concerning the physical universe arise. PLEASE DO NOT ATTEMPT TO WORK THROUGH ANY TYPE OF PHYSICS PROBLEMS ON YOUR OWN AT HOME—ALWAYS CONSULT A PROFESSIONAL. Only a professional knows which laws of physics are currently being applied to describe the physical universe that surrounds us. THESE PHYSICAL LAWS ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE. Please do not assume you are up to date on the latest equations and/or theories concerning gravitation or conservation of energy and momentum.

You may now return to your regularly-scheduled life, knowing that you are safe in the good hands of the people who you expect to watch out for you and your family's best interests, since that would take too much time out of your day to do for yourself.

Brought to you by the "Have You Hugged Your Big Brother Today?" foundation.

Originally posted by tzo at 911Blogger.com
 
However, since 9/11/01, physicists have learned that the answer is actually "there will be virtually no difference in the rate of descent between the two 20-story buildings. They will both strike the ground essentially at the same time."
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What are you talking about?
 
Mekt_Ranzz said:
Here is an example of where a typical layperson can go horribly astray when confronted with what he or she may assume to be an elementary physics problem. Au contraire!

Question: A 20-story building hangs suspended from a crane so that the bottom of the building is 10 feet directly above a 90-story building. Right next to this first 20-story building is another identical 20-story building suspended from another crane at an identical height above the ground, but with no building underneath it. Both cranes let go of their respective 20-story buildings at the same time. Which one hits the ground first?

Answer: This is actually a bit of a trick question.

Prior to 9/11/01, 100% of Advanced Physics Degree professionals would have agreed with the lesser-educated, "common sense" crowd and said that the building with nothing but air beneath it would strike the ground considerably faster than the other, which, quite honestly, could not really be expected to burrow its way through a 90-story building to reach the ground at all.

However, since 9/11/01, physicists have learned that the answer is actually "there will be virtually no difference in the rate of descent between the two 20-story buildings. They will both strike the ground essentially at the same time."

So you see, one must always consult one's local physics expert when questions concerning the physical universe arise. PLEASE DO NOT ATTEMPT TO WORK THROUGH ANY TYPE OF PHYSICS PROBLEMS ON YOUR OWN AT HOME—ALWAYS CONSULT A PROFESSIONAL. Only a professional knows which laws of physics are currently being applied to describe the physical universe that surrounds us. THESE PHYSICAL LAWS ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE. Please do not assume you are up to date on the latest equations and/or theories concerning gravitation or conservation of energy and momentum.

You may now return to your regularly-scheduled life, knowing that you are safe in the good hands of the people who you expect to watch out for you and your family's best interests, since that would take too much time out of your day to do for yourself.

Brought to you by the "Have You Hugged Your Big Brother Today?" foundation.

Originally posted by tzo at 911Blogger.com
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I have a sneaking suspicion that you are not at home with "advanced physics." What you sarcastically claim that physicists have learned from the buildings that collapsed is something they really haven't learned at all. But, then, you are a conspiracy liar: you don't care.
 
Every time a troofer drops by with yet another regurgitation of the same old long-discredited talking points, I start channeling one of my favorite authors:

Mark Twain said:
The guide was bewildered -- non-plussed. He walked his legs off, nearly, hunting up extraordinary things, and exhausted all his ingenuity on us, but it was a failure; we never showed any interest in any thing. He had reserved what he considered to be his greatest wonder till the last -- a royal Egyptian mummy, the best preserved in the world, perhaps. He took us there. He felt so sure, this time, that some of his old enthusiasm came back to him:

"See, genteelmen! -- Mummy! Mummy!"

The eye-glass came up as calmly, as deliberately as ever.

"Ah, -- Ferguson -- what did I understand you to say the gentleman's name was?"

"Name? -- he got no name! -- Mummy! -- 'Gyptian mummy!"

" Yes, yes. Born here?"

" No! 'Gyptian mummy!"

"Ah, just so. Frenchman, I presume?"

"No! -- not Frenchman, not Roman! -- born in Egypta!"

"Born in Egypta. Never heard of Egypta before. Foreign locality, likely. Mummy -- mummy. How calm he is -- how self-possessed. Is, ah -- is he dead?"

"Oh, sacre bleu, been dead three thousan' year!"

The doctor turned on him savagely:

"Here, now, what do you mean by such conduct as this! Playing us for Chinamen because we are strangers and trying to learn! Trying to impose your vile second-hand carcasses on us! -- thunder and lightning, I've a notion to -- to -- if you've got a nice fresh corpse, fetch him out! -- or by George we'll brain you!"
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http://www.mindspring.com/~eliasen/twain/innocents/innoc27.html

I'm not gonna hold my breath waiting for a claim that isn't dead and decomposed already.
 
Alferd_Packer said:
OK, I listened to it on my way home tonight. Let me start by echoing a sentiment expressed earlier in this thread. Gage is an idiot.

Like Judy Woods, one has to wonder just how he managed to acquire his credentials.
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It is not the acquisition of knowledge that makes one a scholar, but rather the logical and correct application of that knowledge.
- TAM 2007

TAM;)
 
Okay, let's ditch the advanced physics and stick to common sense

Question: A 20-story building hangs suspended from a crane so that the bottom of the building is 10 feet directly above a 90-story building. Right next to this first 20-story building is another identical 20-story building suspended from another crane at an identical height above the ground, but with no building underneath it. Both cranes let go of their respective 20-story buildings at the same time.

Which one hits the ground first?

ANSWER THE QUESTION.
 
The question is far too complex. We are but simple country folk. Please let us know when the YouTube video is available.

Also, these schnozzberries taste like schnozzberries.
 
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