Mike Huckabee and Adam's rib

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From Salon today:

Mike Huckabee and Adam's rib

Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, whose statements on evolution have themselves evolved a bit during the 2008 presidential race, was asked about the issue again Thursday night on "The Charlie Rose Show." "I believe God created the heavens and the Earth. I believe he created us. Now, what I don't really know is how he did it, in the intricate manner," Huckabee explained. "I think some people get all wrapped up [in] 'OK, was it, did he take the rib out of Adam? Did he make it like' -- I have no reason to believe he didn't. But I don't know."


Maybe the original Garden of Eden was somewhere in Central Arkansas.
 
To borrow a line from Inherit the Wind, Huckabee might say something like, "I don't think about... things I don't think about."

(And the comeback line from the Clarence Darrow character, "Do you ever think about things you do think about?")
 
Well...with a little luck, maybe we can waterboard him into a more coherent belief system.
 
headscratcher4 said:
Well...with a little luck, maybe we can waterboard him into a more coherent belief system.
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The odds of waterboarding changing a True Believer's position are remote, if one takes James Stockdale as an example of how that dynamic plays out.

DR
 
TheDoLittle said:
That could explain the bestiality and inbreeding in Genesis...
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Please forgive my scriptural ignorance, but what exactly does the bible say about that? I remember once vaguely thinking that if we all came from Adam and Eve, then there must have been a lot of incest in the first few generations of humans.
 
The Bible doesn't say anything about it. After getting kicked out of Eden there was Adam, Eve, Cain and Abel. Then Cain killed Abel. Then God put a mark on Cain and Cain complained that wherever he went, he would be persecuted... but by whom??

Nobody knows. Some say Cain anticipated Adam and Eve having lots (presumably thousands of kids). Others say that Cain and Abel had already had lots of kids. But others think that Adam and Eve weren't the only people that God created, that they were simply the most important (and maybe the first), because they were the ancestors of Noah, who would himself (and his wife) becomes the next ancestors of all mankind.

Or, like me, you could think the Bible stories aren't meant to be taken literally. These people are metaphors intended for us to interpret to examine issues of morality, not biology, physics or genetics.
 
marksman said:
The Bible doesn't say anything about it. After getting kicked out of Eden there was Adam, Eve, Cain and Abel. Then Cain killed Abel. Then God put a mark on Cain and Cain complained that wherever he went, he would be persecuted... but by whom??
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Mormons living in the other Eden in Missouri led by Joseph Smith, Jr. You see the mark was just a really good George Hamilton type of tan.
 
Now, I've heard that voting/not voting for someone based on just one issue is short sighted to say the least. But I don't think I could vote for someone who didn't believe in evolution. That is a deal breaker for me. However, considering that a staggering percentage of americans don't believe in evolution, I guess the chances of the next presidental nominee who doesn't believe is pretty good. Ignorance can be bliss.
 
EatatJoes said:
Now, I've heard that voting/not voting for someone based on just one issue is short sighted to say the least. But I don't think I could vote for someone who didn't believe in evolution. That is a deal breaker for me. However, considering that a staggering percentage of americans don't believe in evolution, I guess the chances of the next presidental nominee who doesn't believe is pretty good. Ignorance can be bliss.
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Evolution isn't a religious belief. How is "believing in" evolution a valid way to phrase that? You either think it is good science or you don't.

Why do people keep using this phrasing? Are you a closet Fundy? (I rather doubt it, but when using one's opponents' rhetorical style, one can confuse the audience.)

DR
 
I think the problem DR, is that the phrasing of the term "believing in" is accepted as colloquial usage for "accepting" or "preferring, given the evidence". I myself erroneously use it without thinking at times. Unfortunately, many fundamentalists do not understand the difference(s) between them --- we can see that in many of their arguments. They see it as a choice, rather than a conclusion --- and until that bridge is crossed, it is doubtful they will appreciate our side of the argument.
 
Tricky said:
To borrow a line from Inherit the Wind, Huckabee might say something like, "I don't think about... things I don't think about."
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I swear to Satan that GWB used that exact phrase in public, and totally meant it.
 
Being part of the slacked-jawed, church going, wife beating, evolution denying, trailer living, Bush loving, southern living, white trash voters, I think Huckabee's great!

Charlie (get a trailer, vote multiple times) Monoxide
 
I saw Huckabee waffling on O'Reilly. It was funny how he tried to avoid questions that he had to think everyone (including Catholics like O'Reilly) but his sect was going to hell, but vote for him anyway because at least he is honest about it.

Moron.
 
Darth Rotor said:
Evolution isn't a religious belief. How is "believing in" evolution a valid way to phrase that? You either think it is good science or you don't.

Why do people keep using this phrasing? Are you a closet Fundy? (I rather doubt it, but when using one's opponents' rhetorical style, one can confuse the audience.)

DR
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I have made a conscious effort to use that phrase accurately. Most commonly, usage is along the lines of:
'I believe I will have a beer, thanks'.
 
Darth Rotor said:
Evolution isn't a religious belief. How is "believing in" evolution a valid way to phrase that? You either think it is good science or you don't.

Why do people keep using this phrasing? Are you a closet Fundy? (I rather doubt it, but when using one's opponents' rhetorical style, one can confuse the audience.)

DR
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Poor choice of phrasing. I often thought that if someone asked me if I believe in evolution, I'd ask them if they believe in gravity.
 
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