Is Science getting closer to God and the Bible?
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Are you being incompetant, or pretending incompetance here? The difference between your quotes and the actual science are total - the quotes indicate nothing approaching scientific reasoning, interpretation. To use one already picked over: 'rain come down, make Absolump wet'(not the specific phrase) is in no way equivalent to "Heat from the sun causes the surface water to gain more energy and allows the more active (energised) molecules to escape the surface and move into the atmosphere........and as the water molecules gather around the dust particle (condensing) the drop becomes larger until it reaches a mass sufficient to overcome air resistance from the atmosphere's winds and begins it's fall as a raindrop!"
The latter - but great at avoiding real answers to questionsI'll say this for DOC - he's thick-skinned.
Or just plain thick.
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Perhaps a skosh of Rael?
Sorry. I meant to say "Christian" in there, but whatever. It's entirely possible there are other counterexamples.
ETA: This is a thread about the Bible. So the above should have been obvious.
It was obvious. I was tongue-in-cheeking, not critiquing.
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I have to question why you single out Rael here. He's an atheist (and an anti-theist I'm quite sure) and has a great admiration of Science. He thinks that there is no afterlife and that it's up to us to make the best of our limited lives, and progress technologically for the sake of ourselves and future generations.
Maybe there's some parts of his beliefs that I'm unaware of that are plain nuts. Care to fill me in?
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Let's see, he was abducted by aliens and instructed to tell humanity that they created us, and that we'd misinterpreted the bible, which is actually a message from them. They gave him full annotations to the bible, and told him to write a book. In a total of six hours. He has to achieve world peace and build an embassy in Jerusalem before they'll visit to meet with the world's leaders.
No, you're right, nothing nutty there at all.
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This topic comes up on a regular basis. It's hard to say if people who started these myths made them up with the goal of tricking converts all for a good cause, or if they themselves were simply trying to make the Bible's round pegs fit into science's square holes.
For example there is a common claim the Bible describes the Earth as a "sphere". The actual passage refers to a circle and in no way presents some knowledge the people who wrote the Bible shouldn't have known if not divinely informed.
The Bible only contains the knowledge the people who wrote it would have had at the time. For one glaring example, the germ theory is totally absent and claims of things like avoiding pork had a medical reason because of trichinosis may sound good, but don't hold up to closer scrutiny. If that was the reason, then why not simply require pork be burnt before eaten? And why single out trichinosis when something as simple as hand washing would have prevented more disease by far. Or why not just eliminate the trichinosis if you are God, or make your followers immune?
It's all wishful thinking on believers' parts. One so badly wants the Bible to be true. But it isn't. And no amount of lipstick will fix it.
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But a nice corset and fishnet stockings couldn't hurt.........
When Christians find things that support their case its "Oh, the bible is big and muddled and you can support anything. But when atheists find things its "Hey, everybody, look what the bible says here!"
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As they have for hundreds of years.
Wrong. When Christian fundies misinterpret things to suit their liking, atheists state that the Bible is big and etc. etc.'.
Come on, Revelations being a reference to a TV? That's not stretching?
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It looks like this author of hydraulic texts still in use also applied his knowledge to a thorough examination of the Bible and its references to currently known scientific phenomenon and processes.
http://www.creationevidence.org/scientific_evid/se_scripture.html
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Just to claim that doesn't mean anything.
I recently tried to calculate what a divine day would mean. If you stick with divine days plants should appear in about 1.5 billion years.
If you stick with what we know from science, each divine day would have to change length. It doesn't make sense.
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Others have tried such hoaxes as well. The obvious give away is that real impressions compress the layers of sediment beneath the imprint. Many fossil track ways are actually already eroded through the uppermost layers into the layers below, resulting in a less distinct impression. Simply carving into the rock results in no compression. The sediment is simply carved into like a miniature version of the Grand Canyon.
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