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Fire and Steel

Ok, now we are getting somewhere.

The answer is entropy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropy

The idea that the WTC buildings fell straight down from asymmetric airplane crashes and subsequent random fires blatantly violates the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_law_of_thermodynamics

In short, it is not possible to get an ordered reaction (here: straight-down collapse) from a disordered stimulus (here: asymmetric airplane crashes and subsequent random fires).
You are really not a very good engineer as you make up lies about 9/11. Fraud is what you are not doing. False ideas on 9/11.

Please show me the straight down collapse of the WTC. WTC1 and 2 were about 2 acres in foot print; I found they left debris over 19 acres. OOPS our engineer with nut case ideas on 9/11 (as posted) thinks 19 acres are straight down on the 2 acres of WTC foot print. Are you really an engineer? Thermo and what? You did not take thermo; or did he? Votes?

More beer, when I meet up with the guys from Michigan. Beer, think beer.
 
I've been browsing this forum for a relatively long time. I first came to the JREF forums during the Dover PA "intelligent design" trial, because this was an excellent one-stop shop for up-to-the-minute coverage of the trial itself and behind-the-scenes gossip. I never had the first clue that there was even such a thing as a "9/11 Truth Movement" until that fateful day when someone posted about Loose Change.

Since then, I have learned more about 9/11, Al-Qaeda, architecture, Islam, the FAA, NORAD, and a nearly interminable list of other disciplines than I would ever have thought to learn about on my own.

I have always enjoyed delving into the collective minds of Truly Hard-Core Crazy social movements. Scientology, Jonestown, Aum Shinrikyo, and Heaven's Gate, to name but a handful. I recognize in myself a tendency towards weirdness. I'm about half a chromosome away from believing every single Area 51 / MJ-12 / Zeta Reticuli / Roswell / Bob Lazar-type claim ever made. In fact, I would actually enjoy believing in most of those things, if ever I found a really good and solid reason to do so. "I Want To Believe", as Agent Mulder's poster says, but not without really good reasons.

But it seems to me that 9/11 conspiracy theorists are a breed apart even from those. If you take all their claims and try to reconcile them with observable reality, you are left to wonder why the world doesn't look like this:



(by the way, try to convince yourself that was made by the same guy who gave us Jarjar Binks! I double-dog dare ya!)

Maybe that IS in fact how some Truthers see the world. It amazes me that so many people seem to genuinely believe that they are the ONLY ONES who have seen through the lies. They alone have figured out the HORRIBLE, WORLD-CHANGING TRUTH. They have exposed every last one of the world's most respected journalistic, academic, and industrial institutions as being willing participants in the most audacious fraud human society has ever seen.

And yet, they're alive. Even now, they're sitting on their collective and individuals asses under no threat from anyone. They alone know the BIGGEST SECRET EVER, and... nothing. At the same time, Buddhist monks in Burma (not generally known for a tendency to detonate themselves in coffee shops or saw the heads off of Western journalists and missionaries) are being slaughtered in their streets because they decided to insist that their government sucked.

I'd like to pretend that I had a really spiffy conclusion that would tie this up in a nice little bow, but I don't. Sorry.
 
I have got a better idea, let's talk about the obvious and frankly more important details of the WTC collapses first. Again, you are getting in details that are frankly irrelevant in face of the "smoking gun" evidence.

To understand the WTC collapses, here is what primarily matters:

(1) The collapses were symmetric, straight-down and the buildings did not otherwise tip over.
Since the collapse initiated with the upper floor section falling straight down into the floors below, where would the lateral forces come from to cause the building to tip over to one side?

(2) The collapses occur at near free-fall speed.
How about momentum and moving mass increasing as the debris that was once a floor above impact into the floor below which then gets destroyed and adds to the moving mass that then impacts to the floor below etc..


Although there is a lot more data which prove the WTC building were downed with controlled demolitions, these two points which are indisputable are all that is needed to make the case.
How about providing some of that data.

If after considering these two points, you do not that the controlled demolition theory is most likely explanation for WTC building collapses, you either have a very poor understanding of basic physics or have some other conflicting agenda.
Please provide some of those explinations, and evidences. You false dichotomies are showing.

Mark, your case, I think the answer is both. You seem to be in chronic denial of the obvious, so I think you lack a basic, intuitive understanding of how things work and also you have had apparently no serious education in physics or engineering. Furthermore, since you have go so far out of your way to try to "debunk" the only credible theories of the WTC collapses, for social and psychological reasons, I really doubt that you will be able to admit that you are wrong at this point.

Unfortunately, you continue to mislead others to the wrong conclusion in this very serious matter.[/QUOTE]

So far you've only come up with only amaturish CT statements and provided no evidence or even any arguments at all. Just unqualified statements.
 
Without any knowledge of the investigations?

Mark, as I stated above, I have some knowledge of the investigations, specifically the relevant parts of the NIST and FEMA reports.

You 9/11 deniers sure do fascinate me. Does it not concern you that your questions and objections may have been answered already, and that you're just wasting other peoples' time?

I have an excellent understanding of science and engineering, I have spent years doing computers simulations and my work is published. I have been looking at WTC collapses for months. I have heard all the 9/11 "debunker" arguments on the WTC topics, like those from yourself (and frankly, I think it is you who is the "denier"). It is quite obvious that these arguments are fundamentally flawed.

I have discussed this subject with everyone I know, which includes many people with doctoral level educations, they have looked at this subject and agree with my analysis. Presentations by Richard Gage and Steven Jones prove beyond any doubt that controlled demolitions brought down all three WTC buildings. There is no possibility that I am wrong here.

Ah, well. After you answer the Triangle questions, start a new thread and lay out your case. Fair enough?

Ok, since you are insisting on discussing this Triangle topic, I will try to respond to your questions, but it will probably be tomorrow.
 
Mark, as I stated above, I have some knowledge of the investigations, specifically the relevant parts of the NIST and FEMA reports.



I have an excellent understanding of science and engineering, I have spent years doing computers simulations and my work is published. I have been looking at WTC collapses for months. I have heard all the 9/11 "debunker" arguments on the WTC topics, like those from yourself (and frankly, I think it is you who is the "denier"). It is quite obvious that these arguments are fundamentally flawed.

I have discussed this subject with everyone I know, which includes many people with doctoral level educations, they have looked at this subject and agree with my analysis. Presentations by Richard Gage and Steven Jones prove beyond any doubt that controlled demolitions brought down all three WTC buildings. There is no possibility that I am wrong here.



Ok, since you are insisting on discussing this Triangle topic, I will try to respond to your questions, but it will probably be tomorrow.

please bring facts and figures to the table. Your argument from authority wont fly here. Especially if you cant even spell steel.
 
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Presentations by Richard Gage and Steven Jones prove beyond any doubt that controlled demolitions brought down all three WTC buildings.
Perhaps then you can answer this question:

Where are the very loud booms which are traditionally associated with demolition charges going off? On every video I have seen of the twin towers' collapses, the audio does not record at all the sounds of demolition charges. Given that the sounds generated by demolition charges are very loud and very distinctive, why are the sounds missing from every video of the event?

For that matter, why do none of the many persons in the area report hearing these loud and distinctive sounds?

Please do not bother posting links to some people in the area who reported that they heard things which sounded like explosions before or during the collapses - it is not even remotely the same thing. Demolition charges are very loud and very distinctive and would have been heard clearly by everyone within many blocks of the WTC and would have been clearly recorded on the audio track of every video camera in the area.

So where are the sounds of the demolition charges?
 
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I have not even bothered to look at one page of the 10,000 page NIST report because I believe that it is a complete waste of time and does almost nothing to explain the events of 9/11.

Richard Gage, Jim Hoffman and numerous other competent, credible people have looked at the NIST report determined that it is garbage. Jim Hoffman outlines his critique here:
http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/nist/

Furthermore, James Quintiere, Ph.D., former Chief of the NIST Fire Science Division has called for an independent review of the NIST World Trade Center study:
http://www.ae911truth.org/info/12

Moreover, NIST admitts that it is "unable to provide a full explanation of the total collapse" of the WTC:
http://www.nationalexpositor.com/News/508.html
http://www.911proof.com/NIST.pdf

Finally, NIST's John Gross is lying about existence of molten metal at the WTC site: www.youtube.com/watch?v=lihj-Kz9wjY When I asked to explain himself in face of numerous contradicting facts, he refused.


So, I am not sure what you mean by NIST's "specific" conclusions about why the towers collapsed, because as far as I know NIST has failed to propose any mechanism for the collapse of the tower. Instead, NIST merely created a computer model for a proposed collapse initiation and that fails to actually initated a collapse without severly tweaking the parameters.

If you want to debate NIST's "specific" conclusions, I suggest you start by listing them here. Otherwise, you can start an attack on my NIST position by criticizing Jim Hoffman's writing here: http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/nist/

If you've never read the NIST how do you know what you are arguing against?
Your arguments against the NIST are based on what other people have said?
And it seems you only canvased the negative or critical reviews. Isn't that being a little loppsided? How about checking out if thier criticizims are vaild. You are supposedly an engineer, don't you check and verify.
Or did you go into this thing with your mind made up?
 
Mark, as I stated above, I have some knowledge of the investigations, specifically the relevant parts of the NIST and FEMA reports.

I have an excellent understanding of science and engineering, I have spent years doing computers simulations and my work is published. I have been looking at WTC collapses for months. I have heard all the 9/11 "debunker" arguments on the WTC topics, like those from yourself (and frankly, I think it is you who is the "denier"). It is quite obvious that these arguments are fundamentally flawed.

I have discussed this subject with everyone I know, which includes many people with doctoral level educations, they have looked at this subject and agree with my analysis. Presentations by Richard Gage and Steven Jones prove beyond any doubt that controlled demolitions brought down all three WTC buildings. There is no possibility that I am wrong here.

Ok, since you are insisting on discussing this Triangle topic, I will try to respond to your questions, but it will probably be tomorrow.
Me thinks you are a liar -
I have not even bothered to look at one page of the 10,000 page NIST report because I believe that it is a complete waste of time and does almost nothing to explain the events of 9/11.
Or you are a hearsay repeater!

Sorry, but months of WTC study mean you are not prepared. It has been 6 years now and ideas like yours are only shared by nut case groups like AE9/11Truth.

Richard Gage copied all his work from other nut cases. Good job on that one.

Jones made up Thermite WTC story out of thin air 4 years after the fact; he was fired for his lies and he made up his own journal to post his lies. Another really good indicator you are full of junk on 9/11. Good job on this expert nut case too. I would love to see how you think thermite was used, and/or explain the entire CD story so even an Engineer like myself can understand? I would also want to know how you ignore the 1300 and 2066 pounds of TNT impacts of 11 and 175. Please explain why uncontrolled fires can not weaken steel to destroy the WTC after those big impacts! And please tell me how 10,000 gallons of fuel did not help start the biggest office fires I have ever seen in 55 years?

You have nothing. I think school was a waste of time and you failed to live up to being an engineer. Such a waste.
 
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Mark, as I stated above, I have some knowledge of the investigations, specifically the relevant parts of the NIST and FEMA reports.
No, you have no clue what's in the reports. You even think that melted steel is the official cause of the collapses. That's as ignorant as it gets.

I have an excellent understanding of science and engineering,
You have displayed a lack of understanding in these subjects that would make a high school freshman blush.

You don't have a foggy idea about a clue about why buildings stand up and fall down. You think a skyscraper built of structural steel and concrete should behave like frying pans, wood stoves, and toppling trees.

You have no concept of fire protection engineering.

Your misunderstanding and misuse of the term "entropy" is exactly the same as that of Steven Jones, which was voted "Worst misuse of a scientific term in the history of the internet" on these forums.

You think an unprotected steel frame would outlast a timber frame of the same strength in a fire.

You are unable to advance any argument, much less a rational, coherent one that incorporates good science, or any science.

You're a materials engineer who cannot spell the word "steel" even after being repeatedly corrected.

I have no idea why you're not utterly embarrassed by the deliberate ignorance you've spewed here. I am embarrassed for you. Truly.

I have spent years doing computers simulations and my work is published.
You fail to understand that when you repeatedly invoke your professional credentials, you will be expected to display professional standards of research and scholarship. Your offhand dismissal of an entire body of experts who studied in depth the matters about which you are wholly ignorant but are wholly prepared to decree have been solved by your amazing powers of ratiocination, shows that you could not possibly be farther from being a professional. Your casual accusations against real professionals are childish and disgraceful.

I have been looking at WTC collapses for months.
Yet you couldn't be bothered to even read NIST's FAQ. How sad. Instead, you rely on fantasy sites run by desperate frauds – and transparent, inept frauds at that – like Richard Gage. Throwing your hat in with people who are constitutionally incapable of getting anything right is an outstanding, adult decision.

I have heard all the 9/11 "debunker" arguments on the WTC topics, like those from yourself (and frankly, I think it is you who is the "denier").
Obviously not. You couldn't answer the simplest of questions here.

It is quite obvious that these arguments are fundamentally flawed.
Your thread awaits. Make your case.
Materials engineer and AE911truth member John Anderson, AKA bofors, makes his case.


I have discussed this subject with everyone I know, which includes many people with doctoral level educations, they have looked at this subject and agree with my analysis. Presentations by Richard Gage and Steven Jones prove beyond any doubt that controlled demolitions brought down all three WTC buildings.
Their presentations prove beyond a doubt that they are sad charlatans living out a sick fantasy.

There is no possibility that I am wrong here.
Another man of "science" who doesn't understand the necessity of falsifiability. It gives me no pleasure to watch cultists clinging to the wreckage after their ship of fools has run aground. I find this all very, very depressing.
 
Actually, the fact that you find the arguments opf Richard Gage so compelling leads me to doubt that you are really up to analysing any of the evidence regarding CD, or that you have any clue how it is done.

Gage himself shows himself to be an utter fool by claiming that there were squibs visible at the top corner of WTC 7, when there clearly are not. He ointrs out not one single shred of evidence of cutting charges going off at any time in WTC 7.

So how in the world do your lot find any indication of CD other than the nearly straight collapse of the building? Are you saying that it is impossible for a building to collapse? Is a building going to remain standing with major structural elements missing and fires raging inside?

If misalligned steel beams can stand upright on their own, why do we need to spend so much money on engineers to figure out where the columns should be placed or how they should be connected one to the other? It just makes no sense that a building as badly damaged as WTC 7 should have withstood the fires.

Gage is leading people down a very twisted path to oblivion in their professions. He's a laughing stock. You don't need to be an engineer to see that. Any soldier or fire fighter with the proper experience can see that.
 
Um.. yes. By the way, what are your qualifications here?

I am an actual architect. You know, someone who designs buildings, and has to integrate the structure with the building systems (damn engineers) with the interior design (damn interior designers) to try to make the building look and work like our clients intended? You can look up my qualifications here by using the search function, but if it makes you feel important I'll scan my degree and / or business card for you.

Sure, I took mechanical engineering stactics and dynamics. I also took two general material science coarses which cover materials strengths topics and a graduate level materials mechanics coarse. I also took graduate level ceramics and polymer courses which covered topic in mechanics with respect to these specific types of materials in great detail.

That's wonderful, you should be able to answer my questions, then. By the way, since it's about as relevant as some of the things you've listed above, I took 6 semesters of photography and 8 semesters of Spanish.


(A) - the steel framed building retains its strength longer than wood because wood does not dissipate (absorb or conduct) heat well (physics of heat conduction) and wood burns (chemical reaction with environmental oxygen) at a much lower temperature than steel melts.

As Regnad Kcin would say: Dear Truther, you are 100% wrong.

The worst thing is that you could have easily avoided being so wrong by looking at the copious examples in this very thread. Gravy posted information in post #2 that would have taken you on the correct path, if you were at all interested in the truth. BenBurch posted good examples of the things described in Gravy's post, and then I even re-posted an image from Gravy's page which I thought was fairly informative.

Essentially, this was an open-book test. And you still failed.

"Finally, the fire resistance of wood can be improved by painting or impregnation with suitable chemicals. Suprisingly, heavy timber can withstand fire better than unprotected steel construction. Heavy timber burns slowly and resists heat penetration. The uncharred inner portion of the timber retains its structural strength, and if the fire is promptly put out, may continue to carry the load for repairs to be carried out."

Building Construction for Architects and Engineers, Dr. B. Benjamin, Materials of Construction, page 42.

You lose.



Well, like Jim Hoffman, my specialty is in polymers not metallurgy or civil engineering materials. But none of that is needed to understand 9/11, only a very basic understanding of physics. Unfortanately people here do not seem to have such a basic understanding of physics (or rather are ignoring what should be intuitive).

You seem to be lacking a basic understanding of a lot of the subjects you wish to tackle. Perhaps you should educate yourself first so as not to appear so foolish. As to intuition? The above example of steel versus timber beams was given to us very early on in our structural curriculum to inform us that "common sense" (intuition) meant exactly squat. I'm sure that a lot of people who aren't schooled in the area (laymen) wouldn't think to fireproof a steel and masonry building - after all, rocks and metals aren't combustible, right? That's what I used to think, too; when I was ignorant.
 
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Why did Richard Gage remove the sound of explosions from the clip he loops of an Oslo, Norway controlled demolition?

This clip is present on three different slides of his "self-guided" PowerPoint presentation.

http://www.ae911truth.net/ppt/ae911-14.php

There is even a gap in the sound at the very end of the clip while the building is still falling.

And yet another recording of this same demolition clearly has loud explosions happening just as the building begins to fall.



The explosions start at :22 in that clip.

What Gage is doing is conditioning his audience. He KNOWS that there are no loud sound of explosions in ANY clip of the 3 WTC buildings falling. He therefore takes out the sound of explosions from the Oslo CD, moves the sound up to the beginning of the clip to mask this, and then loops it over and over again to make people think that the Oslo CD was just like the WTC buildings falling.

Outright chicanery. Richard Gage is a liar.
 
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He's also an idiot. Which makes him a bad liar, I guess. No offense toward your investigative skills intended. I just don't see how anyone who paid any attention in required classes for the expertise he claims could even begin to think that he has any sort of authority.
 
Hypothesis: Steel-framed buildings can not globally collapsed under plausable building fire conditions.


Other people are all over this like white on rice, so I won't worry too much. I only had one question really.

The above statement is very curious. I'd like to know, if it's not too much trouble, precisely what constitutes plausible building fire conditions?

-Gumboot
 
To understand the WTC collapses, here is what primarily matters:

(1) The collapses were symmetric, straight-down and the buildings did not otherwise tip over.

(2) The collapses occur at near free-fall speed.


Neither of the above statements are true. We're off to a bad start. How can one investigate a building collapse when one is not even capable of recognising the specific phenomena that is occurring?

-Gumboot
 
His diddling of the sound track on the video shows him to be only slightly more ethical than a skid road bum with a brick at the window of a liquor store. He is deliberately lying in support of a massive fraud intended to sow discontent with the government.

Did I mention he makes stupid freaking remarks as well?

He's a disgusting example of a human being.

Okay, so I finally took the time to go past the first idiotic statemnt in his power point presentation. That would be the FIRST point:

Symetrical collapse- all columns cut at the same time."

Mega BS! There is a gap of at least five seconds from the collapse of the first mechanical tower to the collapse of the next. It is another five seconds between the collapse of the second mechanical tower and the movement of the north side of the building. The top of the building disappears from view at 6.5 seconds, but, since we cannot see the ground level in any videos, I want to know how much longer it was until everything stooped moving. Don't give me 6.5 seconds total. We don't know that.

Now, clearly, if one of the mechanical towers totally disappears into the interior of the building, we can safely assume that the columns that held it aloft were severed.

But the other tower is still there on the roof for several seconds.

So, your idiot leader is wrong all day on that one.

The next point is a big porky lie, too. "Sights and sounds of explosions?" Vaguely explosion-like sounds, breaking-type sounds, collapsing type sounds, sounds similar to the crashing (not explosive-driven) sound that the building in the posted video makes as it crumbles, but no cutting charges.

And no window glass flying out horizontally in a single video. There was still glass in the windows on the north side of the building as it falls. we can see them breaking and just falling out of the frames.

Not one puff of smoke out the north side.

Now, if you are such a great engineer, perhaps you can tell me what sort of explosives will cut steel columns without over-pressurizing the interior of the building and sending all that thick black smoke in there shooting out sideways, taking out windows with it? Have you discovered someone capable of building a hushabomb?

Again, doofus is wrong all day.

Hoo-BOY is the next one a doozy!

"No characteristics of destruction by fire."

That is just plain idiotic. There were fires on more than half of the floors, many floors in an almost constant state of flash-over, for longer that the fire codes require the steel withstand.

He's not only wrong all day on this one, he's dumb all day.

And this one is totally weaslly:

"Government documentation."

He took a bunch of statements, excerpted them out of context and totally obliterated any clear meaning. I have no idea what he is trying to say. Probably the average rube would have no idea, either. Most engineers wouldn't. A twoofer who wants to believe will assume that he knows what Gage is saying and just accept it without question.

I, being literate in two languages and trained to a degree in arson investigations, can tell that he is a babbling fool. I am glad, considering his language skills, that he is not primarily an instructor. I would feel a need to wear a hard hat in any city where his students work, lest a piece of some structure come unfastened and bean me.

We've already discussed, and i have dismissed, "Free-fall speed of collapse." That he did not combine this with the first big hash-up is just further proof of his lack of language skills, and, considering his position, reflects badly on his actual, as opposed to supposed. level of intelligence.

I'm just an educated old fireman and I can make a point more clearly than that on just about anything that doesn't involve math or business administration. I expect an engineer to speak more clearly about matters of structural performance.

Then we get around to his monsterously stupid argumentum ad authoritam, in citing Danny Jowenko. I have to wonder about him, too. He probably never looked at a video with sound, just got to look at debris maps and whatever the WeAreChumps..er..Change people handed him. I have to wonder if he ever saw the video with the honking great slabs of walls from the north tower falling on the roof, or the divot they took out of the parapet.
Jowenko did not even know, until about five minutes before he made his ill-advised comments, that the buildings all fell on the same day. Not a very useful authority.

But it gets worse. He is one of thsoe sloppy, lazy idiots who sees square "squibs" at the top of the building and calls it mis-timed explosive charges. Now, had the moron just looked carefully at a picture of the other side of the building, he might have noticed that these apear at points at which the debris from the north tower had already removed parts of the building. This is, moreover, the one attempt he makes to show us explosive ejecta and he screwed it up with both hands. Unfreaking believeable stupidity.

Then he goes off about molten metal flowing "like lava," He does not offer us any proof of this other than a supposed quote from Mark Loiseux taken from, of all places, a neo-Nazi rag called the American Free Press. Does this fool not vet his sources? If AFP reports a drought coming, I'm building an ark. They are not even fit to line the bottom of a bird cage, although what a parrot would leave on it there would improve the quality of the content. Has it occured to him that among the contents of the site that were preserved for the museum were no huge pigs of cast iron from the basement?

And would he please explain to us how molten steel from a thermite charge would retain its heat for a month or more? Thermite is hot for minutes at most, then starts to cool like any other cast iron. This is, of course, accelerated when you mix it with tons of churning concrete as we saw in the collapse of the towers. There is no way it re-aggregates itself in the rubble pile like the metal droid from the Terminator sequel.

He does offer us a shot of the "meteor" from Hangar 17. His apparent muse, the long-unemployed S, jones showed that same thing to the world, with the same color manipulations and offered it as proof that there was molten metal.

Gage points out "aluminum doesn't rust." No problem there. It's about the only thing the fool got right. Problem is, the meteor isn't even all metal. Will somebody tell the blithering idiot that it's CONCRETE? It still has the rebar sticking out of it, it has floor trusses and pans layered in it and there is carpeting and paper with still-legible print on it all over there place. I did not think it was possible for a sloppier scientist than Jones to gain any public acclaim and along comes Gage to prove me wrong.

Then he comes out with "foreknowledge of the colapse" as evidence of CD. He quotes the fire chief as supporting that position. Okay, the chief knew it was coming down because another building fell on it and set it afire. That does not prove CD. It proves that pieces of sky scraper that fall on other sky scrapers do structural damage.

The chief did a hundred times more real science on site than Gage has done since the attack. the chief measured the faces of the building wioth a surveyor's transit and found that it was starting to lean.

Now, having analysed what Gage offers for proof, and having found him scoring zero out of a possible nine points, I need to go read something that will restore the IQ points I felt dropping out of my ears while reading his BS. He's a fraud and a fool, and I would tell him that to his face should we ever meet, and I would not be nearly as polite as i was here, where inappropriate language would get me banned.

I wouldn't even apologize for the smell of kimchi on my breath.
 
Ok, now we are getting somewhere.

The answer is entropy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropy

The idea that the WTC buildings fell straight down from asymmetric airplane crashes and subsequent random fires blatantly violates the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_law_of_thermodynamics
I'm sure the scientific community will be fascinated by your novel interpretation of this well-established law of physics.

Now, in the real world, falling down is what things normally do. If the towers had fallen sideways, that would have violated the Second Law; and if they had fallen up, the First Law.

In short, it is not possible to get an ordered reaction (here: straight-down collapse) from a disordered stimulus (here: asymmetric airplane crashes and subsequent random fires).
Newsflash: The force of gravity sums to a single vector, and that vector points pretty much towards the centre of the Earth. We refer to this as "down".
 

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