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"The Lost Book Of Nostradamus"

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[merged]"The Lost Book Of Nostradamus"

This premiers on the History Channel Sunday Night and it looks as though more woo is on it way.If it is anything like the other History Channel shows on Nostradamus,it will be heavily pro Nostadamus.
Well,that get ratings,I guess.
What frustrates me is that THC can do something as good as their special which debunked 9/11 Conspiracy theories,and then lose whatever credibility they gained with crap like this.
I like the way these kind of shows have the "token skeptic": one or two non beleivers in Nostradamus,and then a dozen or so beleivers,and then claim they are a "balanced" show.
And other "documentary" networks "The Discovery Channel",etc are no better.
 
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dudalb said:
This premiers on the History Channel Sunday Night and it looks as though more woo is on it way.If it is anything like the other History Channel shows on Nostradamus,it will be heavily pro Nostadamus.
Well,that get ratings,I guess.
What frustrates me is that THC can do something as good as their special which debunked 9/11 Conspiracy theories,and then lose whatever credibility they gained with crap like this.
I like the way these kind of shows have the "token skeptic":one or two non beleivers in Nostradamus,and then a dozen or so beleivers,and then claim they are a "balanced" show.
And other "documentary" networks "The Discovery Channel",etc are no better.
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There's a lost book? This sounds both interesting and duller than dust at the same time.

At one point in time I had fun getting older versions of Nostradamus and comparing the interpretations of the quatrains to the newer versions. Apparently there was supposed to be a great war around 1998---the coming of the apocalypse even. Also, certain quatrains were interpreted to be the first World Trade Center attack in 1993; of course, after the 2001 attack, the interpretations for the exact same quatrains were edited again to indicate that the 2001 attack was the the attack that Nostradamus mentioned. The part of the quatrain that made people think it had something to do with the World Trade Center? It referred to an apocalyptic attack on the "New City". Has to be New York, right? :rolleyes:
 
They always seem to use the same cast of supporters, I wonder if [H] will trot them out again.

I might tune in long enough to find out where this book has been hiding. It's not like we don't have enough vague predictions from old Nostra.
 
Tirdun said:
They always seem to use the same cast of supporters, I wonder if [H] will trot them out again.

I might tune in long enough to find out where this book has been hiding. It's not like we don't have enough vague predictions from old Nostra.
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Well these must be Nostradamus' "good" predictions, which is why he hid them in another book. Or something.
 
I used to be fascinated by Nostradamus. First, when I believed in all this stuff, and then again when I was a skeptic I was amazed how his "specific" predictions could change over time, according to recent events.

Like, Apology mentioned the quatrain that mentions the "new city" - before 9/11 that was linked to the airplane that exploded mid-air near NY some years ago (sorry, off the top of my I don't remember any details) and before then it was linked to the incident at Three Mile Island.

If you get a chance to buy a second hand copy of Nosty's work from even ten years ago, do so.
 
Tirdun said:
They always seem to use the same cast of supporters, I wonder if [H] will trot them out again.

I might tune in long enough to find out where this book has been hiding. It's not like we don't have enough vague predictions from old Nostra.
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From the History channel's web site:

In 1994, Italian journalist Enza Massa was at the Italian National Library in Rome when she stumbled upon an unusual find. It was a manuscript dating to 1629, titled: Nostradamus Vatinicia Code. Michel de Notredame, the author's name, was on the inside in indelible ink. The book contains cryptic and bizarre images along with over eighty watercolor paintings by the master visionary himself. Follow the investigative trail of how the manuscript was found in the archives and exactly how it got there. New insight is given into the life of Nostradamus and his relationship with Pope Urban VIII, who knew about this manuscript and in whose possession it was for many years.
 
So they actually might have some new Woo from Nosty.
If they were to present an objective fact based approach this might be of some value,but they will trot out the usual suspects of True Beleivers,with one of two token skeptics.
 
What's the history of "indelible ink?" Did such exist at the time? What's meant by "indelible?" Does that refer to ink that was created to be indelible, or is it an apellation we would give after the fact to any kind of ink, provided it has lasted for centuries and is still legible?

It was the first word in the blurb that caught my eye as possibly providing an inconsistency, and struck me as an odd emphasis, hence my questions.
 
Apology said:
There's a lost book? This sounds both interesting and duller than dust at the same time.
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As I recall, wasn't the 9/11 Twin-Towers prophesy of Nostradamous a known fake quatrain ?

Apology said:
At one point in time I had fun getting older versions of Nostradamus and comparing the interpretations of the quatrains to the newer versions. Apparently there was supposed to be a great war around 1998---the coming of the apocalypse even.
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I remember being in the lunch room, in high school sometime in the early 80's, when according to some ancient prediction the world was supposed to end. -- i.e @ 12:37 PM EST that day, and counting down to the second. - And everyone jokingly going oh well, we're still here.

By the way, regarding the End Of the World - a list of failed prophesies can be found here.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/end_wrl1.htm
 
slingblade said:
What's the history of "indelible ink?" Did such exist at the time? What's meant by "indelible?" Does that refer to ink that was created to be indelible, or is it an apellation we would give after the fact to any kind of ink, provided it has lasted for centuries and is still legible?

It was the first word in the blurb that caught my eye as possibly providing an inconsistency, and struck me as an odd emphasis, hence my questions.
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I wondered about the "indelible ink" phrase myself. Why mention it at all? Maybe this is supposed to prove that Slyvia Browne could not erase it in a later century and claim authorship? :boggled:
 
Gord_in_Toronto said:
I wondered about the "indelible ink" phrase myself. Why mention it at all? Maybe this is supposed to prove that Slyvia Browne could not erase it in a later century and claim authorship? :boggled:
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That's what I was wondering: "Oh, of course it's authentic--this is indelible ink!"

And it could be. But it set off my woometer, a bit.
 
This 1981 documentary claimed New York would be destroyed in th 1990s by atomic weapons by an alliance of the Soviet Union with Arabs. Of course, the Soviet Union was gone shortly after 1981 and 9/11 would have been impossible if NY no longer existed.
 
dudalb said:
This premiers on the History Channel Sunday Night and it looks as though more woo is on it way.If it is anything like the other History Channel shows on Nostradamus,it will be heavily pro Nostadamus.
Well,that get ratings,I guess.
What frustrates me is that THC can do something as good as their special which debunked 9/11 Conspiracy theories,and then lose whatever credibility they gained with crap like this.
I like the way these kind of shows have the "token skeptic": one or two non beleivers in Nostradamus,and then a dozen or so beleivers,and then claim they are a "balanced" show.
And other "documentary" networks "The Discovery Channel",etc are no better.
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And, after several years of that kind of sludge on those two theoretical beacons of learning and education, you are surprised???!!!
 
ShowerComic said:
As I recall, wasn't the 9/11 Twin-Towers prophesy of Nostradamous a known fake quatrain ?
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I don't know, I just know they keep reworking the interpretation of the "New City" quatrain to fit the circumstances. It's a pretty typical meaningless Nostradamus quatrain and I find it entirely unconvincing as a prediction for either WTC bombing:

Nostradamus said:
Earthshaking fire from the center of the earth will cause tremors around the New City. Two great rocks will war for a long time, then Arethusa will redden a new river.
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My copy says "New City" is New York because "Arethusa" is a cross between "Ares", the God of War, and "USA" :rolleyes: Of course the two great rocks that are warring are the twin towers, and Nostradamus didn't know how to describe our modern skyscrapers because he was from the 1500's even though he knew enough to make a clever anagram involving "USA" :rolleyes::rolleyes: It also bears pointing out that the earthshaking fire seems to have come from the sky, not the center of the earth, in the case of the 9/11 attack.

Now if you're saying somebody proved that a bunch of the previously known quatrains weren't really written by Nostradamus, then that's information I haven't heard before.

ShowerComic said:
I remember being in the lunch room, in high school sometime in the early 80's, when according to some ancient prediction the world was supposed to end. -- i.e @ 12:37 PM EST that day, and counting down to the second. - And everyone jokingly going oh well, we're still here.

By the way, regarding the End Of the World - a list of failed prophesies can be found here.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/end_wrl1.htm
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Hahaha, I remember that too, but I was in Junior High and had forgotten why or how the world was supposed to end. Was the world supposed to explode or something? I just remember thinking it was dumb.
 
15 only

ShowerComic said:
As I recall, wasn't the 9/11 Twin-Towers prophesy of Nostradamous a known fake quatrain ?



I remember being in the lunch room, in high school sometime in the early 80's, when according to some ancient prediction the world was supposed to end. -- i.e @ 12:37 PM EST that day, and counting down to the second. - And everyone jokingly going oh well, we're still here.

By the way, regarding the End Of the World - a list of failed prophesies can be found here.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/end_wrl1.htm
Click to expand...

15 is a bit short on the sauce.

How about a few hundreds ?

http://www.abhota.info/end1.htm
 
"lost book of nostradamus"

I just saw an ad for a show coming on the history channel tomorrow called :The lost book of nostrodamus" and they say that "he saved the biggest predictions for last"

I'm waiting for a chuckle on this, but I did a google search and some are taking this seriously because apparently the documentary will make passages public which had not before been published.

I've heard the bull before about his writings being cryptic because he saw the future but tried to describe it using terms which he understood. I'm looking forward to a chuckle on this one because as I've mentioned before I do not know him ever saying anything like "There's a german guy... really angry type.. yelling a lot with a small square mustasch and a pin-wheel like thingy on his arm and everyone extends their right arm at him"

or for that matter "people are all traveling in carts which have no apparent means of being propelled and have some mechanism which is located under a removable panel on the front. They are controled by turning a wheel. Also people seem to talk frequently into some sort of device which makes sounds and illuminates and periodically."

nope... if he had tried he could describe it... but he wrote cryptic quatrains because he was making it all up...
 
I think he gave some specific dates at times

This thread has the same title as the other one though.......
 
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