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architects and engineers for truth, population 1

deep44 said:
How do you suggest they verify their identities or credentials? Better yet- how do you typically verify the credentials of your trusted experts in this forum?

I'm not really looking for an answer, because I'm already pretty sure that:

1. You don't verify the credentials of any "friendlies" here in this forum in a way that would be acceptable for a "non-friendly" to verify their own credentials (i.e., a double standard).

2. Regardless of how they attempt to verify their credentials, someone will suggest that whatever they've provided could be "easily" faked, or cast some other doubt, and their credentials will be dismissed & laughed at.

For the person (or people) who claim that what they're doing is an "appeal to authority", it looks like NIST is in the same boat. Richard W. Bukowski, a member of the 9/11 investigation team, has a BS in Electrical Engineering. Another member has several Chemistry degrees. Countless others are Civil Engineers, which is one of the possible degrees for Land Surveyors, right? (Right.)

Additionally, even if he was a Sandwich Engineer for Subway, how exactly are they appealing to authority? The site is called "Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth", and they're calling on congress for an independent investigation. As long as they're really all Engineers or Architects, I'm not sure how you can argue that they're appealing to authority as a group.

Before anybody calls "equivocation"- yes, the Sandwich Engineer example was a bit over the top.

I came here because I was curious how you guys would discredit this latest organization, and unsurprisingly, your criticism is still full of blatant double-standards, confirmation bias, and selective perception.

If I took your approach to "debunking", there really aren't too many things I couldn't debunk, because it's not hard to find some doubt in just about anything -- just as you guys do with anything related to 9/11 that doesn't support your opinion. Until you hold yourselves to the same standards you demand from others, it's pointless to even discuss this with any of you.
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Then why?
 
Given the joining process is a scam, I think it is safe to say that this group fo quacks will have no credibility from here on in...please see link on JREF proving the joining process for this group is a scam...all the architects and engineers listed on it could be false.

TAM
 
I have been trying, with no success, to track down William Rice. I spoke with Scott Sabol, P.E., who heads the Dept. of Engineering at Vermont Technical College. He's been there for eight years and has never heard of Rice. Before I conclude that we've uncovered another uncredentialed fraud, I have to dig deeper.
 
T.A.M. said:
Given the joining process is a scam, I think it is safe to say that this group fo quacks will have no credibility from here on in...please see link on JREF proving the joining process for this group is a scam...all the architects and engineers listed on it could be false.

TAM
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It is not a scam. I had to send copies of my degrees to join.
 
bofors said:
It is not a scam. I had to send copies of my degrees to join.
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Not to question you but we need some evidence of this. Perhaps you could wow us with your knowledge by following up on your invitation to debate Gumboot, which he accepted immediately, you know, at that DRG post you drove by this morning.
 
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