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Former conspiracy believer here

RedIbis said:
Yup exactly, not just the bait, but the tackle too. Google images didn't come up with exactly what I was looking for, but you got the point.

Seriously, how do you guys not see that this is just an obvious work?
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What do you mean "work"? Are you implying that I'm being dishonest? If so, I don't know what to tell you. Is it so incomprehensible that somebody might actually have changed their mind about something like this?
 
Congrats, Diagras.

I am an ex-CT nut myself, as are a couple others who have posted here.

As Rush Limbaugh said to Sean Hannity the other night, "The truth will win every time." ;)
 
Diagoras,

I can relate to your OP. I, myself, fell into the realm of conspiracism for a while.
Whilst i didn't buy the whole deal with missiles, fat bin laden, et cetera: I can relate to your post quite well.

When i first started looking into the topic, I was told to keep an open mind.
Sure, that seems fair, what harm could it do?
A lot.
As the saying goes - you can become so open minded that your brains fall out. And that, to me, is the essence of conspiracism. Doubt everything. Trust no-one.
It's a dark place, indeed.
I'm glad to hear you've came through it.

Well done.
:)
 
Sword_Of_Truth said:
Congrats, Diagras.

I am an ex-CT nut myself, as are a couple others who have posted here.

As Rush Limbaugh said to Sean Hannity the other night, "The truth will win every time." ;)
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Tssk... it's "The 'truth' will win every time." Read the memo!
 
RedIbis said:
Yup exactly, not just the bait, but the tackle too. Google images didn't come up with exactly what I was looking for, but you got the point.

Seriously, how do you guys not see that this is just an obvious work?
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Someone always has to go and pee in the punchbowl.
 
RedIbis said:
Yup exactly, not just the bait, but the tackle too. Google images didn't come up with exactly what I was looking for, but you got the point.

Seriously, how do you guys not see that this is just an obvious work?
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"Obvious work?" What do you mean? That Diagoras is putting us on? That he is some kind of "disinfo agent," perhaps? You have evidence of that, right? I mean, it's not like he's making a wild, insane claim. He simply said basically "I changed my mind, the CT stuff is rot."

Anyhow, welcome to the forum Diagoras.
 
RedIbis said:
Yup exactly, not just the bait, but the tackle too. Google images didn't come up with exactly what I was looking for, but you got the point.

Seriously, how do you guys not see that this is just an obvious work?
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There's always a chance it's an obvious work, but I don't understand why you think it's so "obvious." Care to explain? Or is this just one of those gut feelings, if that's it, then there's no need to explain. :)
 
Red;

As I have always said. When someone comes here I try to believe them, to trust that they are being honest, until proven otherwise.

I will admit that Diagoras does seem to fit the bill, seems to fit the sterotype, and I see where you are coming from wrt suspecting some mischief here, but until he shows me otherwise, why should I doubt him?

Welcome to the forum Diagoras...don't mind Red, he means well, and is almost always civil, just plays on the opposite site of the fence...so to speak.

TAM:)
 
Unfit4Command said:
There's always a chance it's an obvious work, but I don't understand why you think it's so "obvious." Care to explain? Or is this just one of those gut feelings, if that's it, then there's no need to explain. :)
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It's "obvious" in the same way that the controlled demolition of the Twin Towers is "obvious".
 
Diagoras said:
What do you mean "work"? Are you implying that I'm being dishonest? If so, I don't know what to tell you. Is it so incomprehensible that somebody might actually have changed their mind about something like this?
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It's not incomprehensible that someone would change their mind on this, at all.

The tone of the OP and the vague details make your intent obvious.
 
RedIbis said:
It's not incomprehensible that someone would change their mind on this, at all.

The tone of the OP and the vague details make your intent obvious.
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And what are you implying that his intent was?

To make the CTers look foolish?

I'm not sure they need any help in that department.
 
T.A.M. said:
Red;

As I have always said. When someone comes here I try to believe them, to trust that they are being honest, until proven otherwise.

I will admit that Diagoras does seem to fit the bill, seems to fit the sterotype, and I see where you are coming from wrt suspecting some mischief here, but until he shows me otherwise, why should I doubt him?

Welcome to the forum Diagoras...don't mind Red, he means well, and is almost always civil, just plays on the opposite site of the fence...so to speak.

TAM:)
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Thanks Tam, your posts are almost always polite and friendly. Calmer, more civil voices such as yours are always more persuasive than the anger and irrationality that pops up on boths sides of the "fence."

But isn't my "playing the opposite side" the whole point of debate and discourse?
 
RedIbis said:
It's not incomprehensible that someone would change their mind on this, at all.

The tone of the OP and the vague details make your intent obvious.
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So what is he going to do? Run back to LCF or some other such forum and say
"Hahahahahahaha! I went to JREF and pretended that I used logic and reason to look at the truth movement and decided we were wrong and they fell for it!"?
 
RedIbis said:
It's not incomprehensible that someone would change their mind on this, at all.

The tone of the OP and the vague details make your intent obvious.
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Sorry for not transcribing a day-by-day journal of my deconversion. If you want more details, feel free to ask me. But if you're just going to come out and accuse me of being a liar when I know I'm not lying, well, I know it's probably just because you're insecure about your beliefs but it really makes you come off as a jerk, and if you want to convince me that the conspiracy theory is true you've just dealt a huge blow to your credibility in my eyes.

EDIT: I would go back and look for my old posts where I used to defend the conspiracy theory, but I've since been banned from that forum (for criticizing some of the tenets of Islam...) My ban runs out late next month, and I can link you to the posts then if you'd like.
 
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