Fascist America, in 10 easy steps

Travis said:
If only America had a free press. Alas, we don't, and Bush is enjoying 80% approval ratings,...
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Brain dead into lying, Travis?

Today's The San Diego Union Tribune in page A6 under

Poll drops Bush support to 24%

writes:

"...Bush's job approval rating fell to 24 percent from last month's record low for a Zogby poll..."

Note "...record low..." in it, meaning the polls never got another President (including Nixon) this low.

You really spread your brain dead lying propaganda here, Travis.
 
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latent aaaack said:
Is this true Ion? If this is how you feel when America is only a little fascist, what are you going to do when it really becomes authoritarian, curl up in a fetal ball and whimper?

There's really nothing to be so afraid of yet, I can still do this with two police cars in sight of me:
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I don't know what I will do when is more authoritarian.

I grew up in Communist Romania until 18, lived in France for 10, Canada 6, and U.S. 11.

U.S. disappoints me.

What I took for granted in civilization in France (like critical thinking against religious dogmas, science and hedonism in a democratic society), are not here.
 
Ion said:
I don't know what I will do when is more authoritarian.

I grew up in Communist Romania until 18, lived in France for 10, Canada 6, and U.S. 11.

U.S. disappoints me.

What I took for granted in civilization in France (like critical thinking against religious dogmas, science and hedonism in a democratic society), are not here.
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But as bad as you seem to think it is in the U.S., you don't seem to be in any big hurry to leave.
 
Ion said:
Not so unique.

Europe is with me on this.
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If Europe is truly full of people with the same opinions as you then I need to cancel my plans to visit all the old castles along the Rhine River. There is no way I'm going to vacation somewhere surrounded by such deeply unpleasant individuals.
 
Ion said:
Brain dead into lying, Travis?

Today's The San Diego Union Tribune in page A6 under

Poll drops Bush support to 24%

writes:

"...Bush's job approval rating fell to 24 percent from last month's record low for a Zogby poll..."

Note "...record low..." in it, meaning the polls never got another President (including Nixon) this low.

You really spread your brain dead lying propaganda here, Travis.
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Apparently my point went right over your head. How, if the press is controlled by those in power, is it that an approval rating of those in power could be at 24%?

Now I'm not surprised that the approval rating is that low. I dislike Bush and so do the majority of Americans. This popular dislike is largely because of the Press reporting the failures of Bush. Yet this myth that the American Press treat Bush like some sort of saint continues to persist. It makes no sense.
 
Ion said:
I don't know what I will do when is more authoritarian.

I grew up in Communist Romania until 18, lived in France for 10, Canada 6, and U.S. 11.

U.S. disappoints me.

What I took for granted in civilization in France (like critical thinking against religious dogmas, science and hedonism in a democratic society), are not here.
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Thank you for the background update. I suspect the Romanian part plays a role. I have a neighbor from there. Best damned pessimistic cynic I know. Talks trash about everything; probably his mother too if I'd let him go that far.

The frogs are their own people and would be the only ones if their fantasies came true (yes I've lived there too).

The Canadians, bless their hearts, all wish they could retire to Florida as long as they could take their national health care with them, which they can't anymore 'cause their younger compatriots who now pay the bills say they can't afford it.

Be thankful that we let you stay here for 11 years. Now that you are presumably reaching the point where you need others to pay your way, perhaps you can explore if the the French, Canadians, or Romanians will take you back and pay for your care there. I hear they have good programs for chronic pessimists and grouches.

You disappoint me, for what little that is worth.
 
Ion said:
I don't know what I will do when is more authoritarian.

I grew up in Communist Romania until 18, lived in France for 10, Canada 6, and U.S. 11.

U.S. disappoints me.

What I took for granted in civilization in France (like critical thinking against religious dogmas, science and hedonism in a democratic society), are not here.
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You're 45? :jaw-dropp

-Gumboot
 
danielk said:
I'm not, and I have a full-sized EU flag "flying" in my living room.
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Yeah well, just leave it to Elind and Ion to get it on together, call it a day on this one, and the rest of us can do sensible things together instead.
 
OK, leave it to Elind, jsiv, Ion and Oliver. The rest of us can party together then. :p
 
Whatcha gonna do, send Captain Euro after me?


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Travis said:
Apparently my point went right over your head. How, if the press is controlled by those in power, is it that an approval rating of those in power could be at 24%?
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I don't know.

The fact is that the U.S. media is concentrated in the hands of a few like Murdoch.

Maybe Republicans like Murdoch are disenchanted with Bush and publish this poll, I don't know.

Or maybe the U.S. media is afraid of Zogby, I don't know.

The fact also is that you lie:

Bush's approval rating is not 80% like you stated;
it was 29% for about a year -so there was plenty of time for you to register that, you registered that it was low in the 20s but you lie that Bush's approval rating is 80%-;
now Bush's approval rating is a record low of 24% (beating Nixon's lowest).

I expect right wingers like you -who distort facts and revisit history- to declare anytime soon:

"We all know the earth is flat. Countless studies show it..."
 
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