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What happens when an aircraft hits something that is not inclined to move?

Mr/ Ms Terral: You refer a number of times to pictures. Are photos the only evidence which you will accept?
 
Terral said:
Thank for making some points, but you forgot to include any evidence for anything.
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Speaking of evidence, a couple of hours ago, in this thread, you made a very serious claim that the WTC was brought down by a CD. I asked you to provide evidence, first you tried to shift the burden of proof, I called you on it and you haven't returned. Please return and provide your evidence.
 
If you are expecting someone to take you by the hand, and lead you to a hangar full of the debris from these flights and show you with your own eyes...search elsewhere...you nor anyone else not involved in the investigation would be allowed to...

TAM:)
 
 
Please Show Me This Kind Of Evidence

Hi Ben:

Ben >> Oh, yeah, and my friend's father was in the section that was hit, and was killed on that day, and I really do not find it amusing to play political games with any of this but the Pentagon especially. You should be ashamed of yourself.
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Political games? Please excuse yourself from the discussion of the topic appears too heart wrenching . . . What does the evidence show? Everyone here is encouraged to go here ( http://911review.org/93/maps/ ) and look at the Official Pictures. Then point out the 100-Ton Jetliner. :0) Then go to the Wiki site and look at the Official Government Evidence. Use the zoom option to look everything over carefully:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Airlines_Flight_93

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How many here see an empty hole like I do?

crater-stahl.jpg


The grass is growing down all the inclines to the very bottom of the hole. Note how the photographer is down very near the ground, but you can still see across the hood of the fire truck. This hole is no more than four feet deep and filled with burned garbage. The Fox News Report says this hole is only 20 feet in diameter:

http://www.youtube.com/v/JZekosYOmXc << Must see rare footage = FOX / NBC News Report.

Watch the short video >> http://www.letsroll911.org/phpwebsite/files/documents/Day_1_-_Pittsburg_Crash_01.swf

You say a 100-Ton Jetliner crashed into the Pentagon. Great!

pentfacadebig.jpg


How did any 100-Ton Jetliner pass through this masonry wall still standing after the attack?

GL,

Terral
 
Terral said:
Hi Ben:




Political games? Please excuse yourself from the discussion of the topic appears too heart wrenching . . . What does the evidence show? Everyone here is encouraged to go here ( http://911review.org/93/maps/ ) and look at the Official Pictures. Then point out the 100-Ton Jetliner. :0) Then go to the Wiki site and look at the Official Government Evidence. Use the zoom option to look everything over carefully:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Airlines_Flight_93

[qimg]http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c266/Terral03/93crash2.jpg[/qimg]

How many here see an empty hole like I do?

[qimg]http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c266/Terral03/crater-stahl.jpg[/qimg]

The grass is growing down all the inclines to the very bottom of the hole. Note how the photographer is down very near the ground, but you can still see across the hood of the fire truck. This hole is no more than four feet deep and filled with burned garbage. The Fox News Report says this hole is only 20 feet in diameter:

http://www.youtube.com/v/JZekosYOmXc << Must see rare footage = FOX / NBC News Report.

Watch the short video >> http://www.letsroll911.org/phpwebsite/files/documents/Day_1_-_Pittsburg_Crash_01.swf

You say a 100-Ton Jetliner crashed into the Pentagon. Great!

[qimg]http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c266/Terral03/pentfacadebig.jpg[/qimg]

How did any 100-Ton Jetliner pass through this masonry wall still standing after the attack?

GL,

Terral
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All been covered many times before. Your a couple of years late with your denial. Can't you guy's think of something new? This is getting boring, even the lurkers have left.
 
Terral, just to move the discussion ahead, instead of both side talking in circles and ignoring each other, would you mind linking to a photo of a crash site that you think either the UA93 or AA77 crash sites should've resembled?
Alternatively, you can just specify a particular crash and let us look up the pictures. I just want to get a feel for how you think it should've looked...thanks in advance.
 
Terral said:
93crash2.jpg


How many here see an empty hole like I do?

crater-stahl.jpg


The grass is growing down all the inclines to the very bottom of the hole. Note how the photographer is down very near the ground, but you can still see across the hood of the fire truck. This hole is no more than four feet deep and filled with burned garbage. The Fox News Report says this hole is only 20 feet in diameter:

How did any 100-Ton Jetliner pass through this masonry wall still standing after the attack?

GL,

Terral
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Your photo proves flight 93 hit the ground at about 600 mph. Classic high speed impact with the ground, and you will note, there were object ejected from the impact, some intact. All evidence of a high speed aircraft impact. As a real expert in aircraft accident investigation, I see you have posted positive proof of flight 93 impacting the ground. Thank you for showing the world what is a high speed aircraft ground impact. Sad you are unable to understand you posted the proof. I find all truthers post the proof to prove themselves wrong as you have done, and you do not even know you have done it. Why?
 
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Actually, I was hoping that terral was a long-time lurker on this forum and knew what things had been presented by truthers over and over and over again and would come here like a knight in shining armor for the truth movement and present something new that we haven't seen and debunked a thousand times before.

But, it appears that all we have is the same old tired arguments and ignoring of evidence that strongly supports the official story. In fact, some that have been debunked for years. What's next, claiming the hijackers are still alive??

I for one am disappointed. Ignoring the huge amount of evidence that supports the official story of flight 93 because some grass doesn't look burned right to him? Come on.
 
Terral

Post # 171 please old chap

Address the facts

Do not let me think you are running out on me!!
 
WTC-7 Was Brought Down Using Controlled Demolition

Hi David James:

David James >> Speaking of evidence, a couple of hours ago, in this thread, you made a very serious claim that the WTC was brought down by a CD. I asked you to provide evidence, first you tried to shift the burden of proof, I called you on it and you haven't returned. Please return and provide your evidence.
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Absolutely. The best CD presentation on the internet is the homepage of http://www.ae911truth.org by Richard Gage the leader of our group of architects and engineers. Everyone can see the 6.5 second collapse again here: ( http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/WTC7_Collapse.mpg ) WTC-7 was an overbuilt 47-story skyscraper never hit by any plane or anything where this . . .

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. . . was transformed into this . . .

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. . . in just a few hours in a perfectly ‘symmetrical’ Controlled Demolition-style collapse. Look at the adjacent buildings for damage and try to count the number of massive red-iron steel connections that had to be ‘severed’ simultaneously for the entire steel-framed network to suffer catastrophic failure. The amount of energy required to sever all those connections at the very same time is astronomical and could only have been applied using Controlled Demolition techniques and something very similar to Thermite Shaped Charges ( http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/wtc_charges.html ). Dr. Steven E. Jones ( http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/2006/WTC-Jones19mar06.htm ) describes how sulfur-rich Thermate was used in his famous paper.

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This famous picture shows the where a thermite shaped-charge was used (over confused fireman's head) to ‘walk’ this column in our direction part of the typical Controlled Demolition process. Note that 75 percent of the molten metal residue fell ‘outside’ with only 25 percent on the ‘inside.’ That is a classic CD signature where powerful shaped charges are utilized, because the initial burn starts from the outside and works quickly inside the column. All the columns above this one were ‘severed’ moments earlier, until this one burned and allowed the entire column line to ‘drop’ and literally break the back all the way up the line.

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This picture shows a 45-degree angle cut far out of reach from any steel worker. All of this debris must be removed before anyone begins cutting any structural steel, because that shifts the weight and puts everyone in danger. Note all the 90-degree cuts scattered throughout the debris pile, which could only have happened ‘during’ the CD process. Look for any signs of ‘melted’ steel and you will find NONE, because all of these connections were ‘severed’ using high temperature shaped charges. Just look at the debris to realize no building fire brought this building down, because the 2800-degrees required to melt the steel would have vaporized everything else out of existence and burned the adjacent buildings. Everything you see here is typical of a Controlled Demolition, whether you realize that or not. Steel-framed buildings are fireproof, so nobody here needs to worry. I will start a thread on this topic and you are welcome to offer your opposing views with whatever you consider credible evidence, but first we will discuss the Pentagon case. :0)

GL,

Terral
 
Bell said:
Oh! My! Gosh!
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:D - where do they come from?

Thanks Terral. That really cleared things up for me. It showed me that:

1. You don't actually do any research beyond CT sites.
2. You don't understand what evidence really is.
3. You didn't actually read (or understand) my request.

Enjoy your stay at JREF.
 
Terral?

That "famous" picture of the angle-cut steel?

What date was that taken and at what location?

I think you will find that you cannot provide me with that information.

-Ben

P.S. And yes, you are playing politics. I see right through you. And it is disgusting.
 
Posting proof Dr jones lies, thank you young truther...

Terral said:
( http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/wtc_charges.html ). Dr. Steven E. Jones ( http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/2006/WTC-Jones19mar06.htm ) describes how sulfur-rich Thermate was used in his famous paper.

thermite.jpg


This famous picture shows the where a thermite shaped-charge was used (over confused fireman's head) to ‘walk’ this column in our direction part

GL,

Terral
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Now you have posted proof Dr Jones is a liar. Good job, you posted a photo of a clean up cut. You have proven Dr Jones lies!
 
jesus

he mentioned the beams cuts and Thermite

sigh...............

he also lied about WTC7 so not only is he mistaken in a lot of his posts from earlier he is now a liar

something did hit WTC Terral old chap, why claim nothing did?

also it was not perfectly symmetrical, i think you do not know what the big word means

you are a charlatan and an expert in nothing except BS
 
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