StopKaz - Another Kaz-like 9/11 Fraudster

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I rarely get any emails on the StopKaz site any more, as she has been laying low for more than a year.

But yesterday and today I received several emails pointing me to this article in the NY Times about another woman claiming to have survived the attack on the World Trade Center:

A Tale of 9/11 Survival, but the Pieces Don't Fit

Her account is very similar to Kaz's, minus the religious overtones, such as the Rock From Jesus.

Kudos the the NY Times.
 
I'm sure I've heard of her before, as a 9/11 survivor. It's entirely possible.

It's pretty unlikely but could she be a copycat?
 
There have also been cases of people claiming to be Holocaust survivors who were not. It sounds like this is more an attention seeking situation than a financial scam.

How sad for the people who believed her.
 
LibraryLady said:
There have also been cases of people claiming to be Holocaust survivors who were not. It sounds like this is more an attention seeking situation than a financial scam.

How sad for the people who believed her.
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How sad for Ms. Head! Is this the only way she could gain attention - to lie? And lie some more, and lie some more . . . and so on. Very sad, indeed.
 
RSLancastr said:
Well, I'm glad that the NY Times uncovered the story.

I wouldn't want to create a site called www.StopHead.com.

I just wouldn't, that's all.
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As September draws to a close, this is now the funniest forum quote of the month. We really need a separate award for this stuff.
 
RSL's better half said:
How sad for Ms. Head! Is this the only way she could gain attention - to lie? And lie some more, and lie some more . . . and so on. Very sad, indeed.
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Speaking as someone who was actually directly involved in 9/11 (Pentagon)...I have a very hard time feeling sad for such a fraud.

Conduct like hers dishonors all that were involved. I'd elaborate, but forum rules prohibit the language I'd be likely to use.
 
Locknar said:
Speaking as someone who was actually directly involved in 9/11 (Pentagon)...I have a very hard time feeling sad for such a fraud.

Conduct like hers dishonors all that were involved. I'd elaborate, but forum rules prohibit the language I'd be likely to use.
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I honestly feel she is more to be pitied than scorned, especially if it turns out there has been no financial fraud. As RSL says, anyone that desperate for attention...
 
I'd be alot less forgiving than Susan because I think it's still victimizing the real survivors and families and friends of the deceased, even if she didn't take any money for it and was just doing it for the attention.

She cheapened and betrayed the trust and sympathy of everyone who heard her story and felt for her, the same way people pretending to be cancer patients and war vets do.
 
RSLancastr said:
Just to set the record straing, RSL didn't say it. RSL's Better Half did.
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But your married now and thus interchangeable :) Ok, a poor attempt at humor there.

Back on topic....

I obviously do not have a corner on being impacted by 9/11. While I was there, I'd argue that everyone that watched the events unfold on live tv coverage was in some way impacted. For those that want to pitty or otherwise feel sad for this person, I respect your opinion.

That said, in my opinion this persons conduct is abysmal; monetary considerations are secondary. In the end, she got what she wanted...attention, paid for by those that were there (and died). This was not a victim-less "crime", but a cold, calculated attack on peoples trust and the memories of loved ones lost.

"Pitty"...save that for someone that actually deserves it; not this waste of humanity.

Much as the line from "The Princess Bride", ala "to the pain"; may she lead a long life, to wallow in the pain and misery she has selfishly and deliberately inflected on others through her actions. I realize that sounds harsh...but that really does not begin to scratch the surface...from someone who is admittedly less then objective on this issue.

ETA: Excellent job by the NY Times.
 
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I do not condone what the woman did. I agree that it "dishonors all that were involved." Still, to go to this length for attention is sad. Who can say why a person would do something like this? Yet, all the good works she did while duping everyone around her do not in any way negate the dishonor to those innocents who lost their lives, and the families she thought she was helping. Wonder how those pompus politicians are feeling now . . .
 
I don't know about you but I'm shocked that no one caught onto her before, with her meeting Giuliani and Bloomberg and visiting college campuses and support groups and being feaured in The Daily News and Time. This wasn't a con artist hiding and sneaking around from place to place and shying from the spotlight- she was conning right in the open, very publicly.

She was at Ground Zero every day for years saying this stuff and not one person, including the reporters writing material about her, which implies researching her, thought to ask a simple question like what hospital she stayed in?

I guess this shows several things. One, she got away with it by coasting on the special sort of respect and reverence a player in a major world event and a victim of evil is given. Someone tells you they survived 9/11, you are filled with nothing but respect and don't so much as think of questioning them. As a matter of fact, it even makes you feel special to know them.

Two, someone in the public eye is immediatly seen as legitimate. It wouldn't enter anyone's mind that someone at Ground Zero everyday, hired by a legitimate organization, who's story is in the paper and who's shaking hands with the mayor would be anything except real.
 
Had Robert known about her, he'd have asked questions. Even if he believed and respected her, he'd have asked - just out of curiosity. (It's what he does.) I don't get why nobody was curious enough.
 
RSL's better half said:
I do not condone what the woman did. I agree that it "dishonors all that were involved." Still, to go to this length for attention is sad. Who can say why a person would do something like this? Yet, all the good works she did while duping everyone around her do not in any way negate the dishonor to those innocents who lost their lives, and the families she thought she was helping. Wonder how those pompus politicians are feeling now . . .
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This is what I'm saying too. I also think that this woman probably need some sort of treatment, in addition to--not in lieu of--jail time.

We really can't tolerate this behavior. Not only does it dishonor those who have really suffered, it gives ammunition to the Conspiracy Theorists.

Nevertheless, I do have some pity for her, if it is mental illness. Maybe it's a girl thing.
 
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EeneyMinnieMoe said:
She was at Ground Zero every day for years saying this stuff and not one person, including the reporters writing material about her, which implies researching her
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Reporters these days, doing research? HAHAHAHAHAHA!

(wipes away tear) Oh man, that's funny. Good one.
 
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