AIDS/Inracellular latent infections?

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the triangular shapes specific to each disease pathogen and sets up a standing wave within the mass of the structure which causes an expansion of the intracellular fluids which subsequently rupture the protective coating that holds the structure together.
http://www.rifeforum.com/forum/showthread.php?p=7683#post7683
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I am not interested in discussing about this treatment or PYRO-ENERGEN treatments. But I am interested to know about possible cellular swelling and brusting/lysis as indicated in above quote, if there in AIDs and other intracellular & latent infections. Can such infectious agents, when intracellular, cause increased in cellular tonicity resulting fragile cell membrane, swelling and brusting of cells?

If yes, how such lysis/brusting can affect? Will it increase (by spread of infectious agents on lysis) or treat(premature death) the disease?

Whether, such disease are related to immune cells only?

Best wishes.
 
It's gobbledegook, Kumar. What's more, it's Rife gobbledegook. So that's gobbledegook^2.

You did happen to leave off the first sentence of that quote, didn't you!
Rife machines as we know them today do not cure disease including cancer.
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No, I am asking disease & treatment's patho/bio-chemico/physio-logical implications. hether such diseases or their treatments are related to cellular hypertonicity, swelling, membrane changes, brusting of infected cells resulting either spread of infectious agents or their prematured killings?

Pls avoid nit-picks as I shall avoid.
 
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Kumar said:
No, I am asking disease & treatment's patho/bio-chemico/physio-logical implications. hether such diseases or their treatments are related to cellular hypertonicity, swelling, membrane changes, brusting of infected cells resulting either spread of infectious agents or their prematured killings?

Pls avoid nit-picks as I shall avoid.
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Kumar, you base your question on a nonsense reference. That is why you ask a nonsense question.

I will give you an appropriate answer:

Fish.

Hans
 
MRC_Hans said:
Kumar, you base your question on a nonsense reference. That is why you ask a nonsense question.

I will give you an appropriate answer:

Fish.

Hans
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That link is not a base but i am trying to know about cellular hypertonicy and swellings for some other consideration?
 
Kumar, the Rife machine is just quackery. It cannot generate the correct RF frequencies to resonate empathetically with pathogen-transcribed DNA within host lymphocytes.

The correct way to achieve this is with the Hulda Clark Super Zapper deluxe. This has been proved to work, no argument, as demonstrated by the veracity of testimonials from recipients taken post walletectomy and pre corporal disintegration.
Guaranteed, 120%
 
Kumar said:
No, I am asking disease & treatment's patho/bio-chemico/physio-logical implications. hether such diseases or their treatments are related to cellular hypertonicity, swelling, membrane changes, brusting of infected cells resulting either spread of infectious agents or their prematured killings?

Pls avoid nit-picks as I shall avoid.
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No, you have referred to a site that is full of complete rubbish. Dangerous rubbish if you believe it is true. So any further questions based on anything from that site will be questions about rubbish.

Why don't you scan through some real medical journals instead, and then ask questions?
 
Deetee said:
Kumar, the Rife machine is just quackery. It cannot generate the correct RF frequencies to resonate empathetically with pathogen-transcribed DNA within host lymphocytes.

The correct way to achieve this is with the Hulda Clark Super Zapper deluxe. This has been proved to work, no argument, as demonstrated by the veracity of testimonials from recipients taken post walletectomy and pre corporal disintegration.
Guaranteed, 120%
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Wow. I must buy one!

Are they safe for children, and what colours do they come in?
 
Deetee said:
Kumar, the Rife machine is just quackery. It cannot generate the correct RF frequencies to resonate empathetically with pathogen-transcribed DNA within host lymphocytes.

The correct way to achieve this is with the Hulda Clark Super Zapper deluxe. This has been proved to work, no argument, as demonstrated by the veracity of testimonials from recipients taken post walletectomy and pre corporal disintegration.
Guaranteed, 120%
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Deetee, Thanks but as I told, I am not interested in these machines as I may be having other easier alternatives. But I wated to understand patho/physiological aspects as indicated in above quote.
 
Kumar said:
Hello,



I am not interested in discussing about this treatment or PYRO-ENERGEN treatments. But I am interested to know about possible cellular swelling and brusting/lysis as indicated in above quote, if there in AIDs and other intracellular & latent infections. Can such infectious agents, when intracellular, cause increased in cellular tonicity resulting fragile cell membrane, swelling and brusting of cells?

If yes, how such lysis/brusting can affect? Will it increase (by spread of infectious agents on lysis) or treat(premature death) the disease?

Whether, such disease are related to immune cells only?

Best wishes.
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HIV causes cells in culture to form syncitia (fuse together), cell lysis and death. Those effects are not easily seen in vivo, although syncitia have been found in brain autopsies.
 
Capsid said:
HIV causes cells in culture to form syncitia (fuse together), cell lysis and death. Those effects are not easily seen in vivo, although syncitia have been found in brain autopsies.
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Whether such lysis is due to viral or osmotic mechanisms? I think culture is not hypotonic to infected or nor infected cells?
 
Capsid said:
I haven't seen any evidence to show that HIV is beneficial to patients.
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I haven't said HIV is benefiial to patients but asked whether prematured lysis/death of infected cells are in some benefit or loss to patient. One consideration is spread of virus as a result of cell lysis and other premature death on virus in early stages.

Whether infected cells are seprated from the tissues on infection?
 
Kumar said:
I haven't said HIV is benefiial to patients but asked whether prematured lysis/death of infected cells are in some benefit or loss to patient. One consideration is spread of virus as a result of cell lysis and other premature death on virus in early stages.

Whether infected cells are seprated from the tissues on infection?
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A lysed/dead cell won't support viral replication, therefore no viral spread.
 
Capsid said:
A lysed/dead cell won't support viral replication, therefore no viral spread.
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After maturation, whether virus don't break cell membrane, spread & infect other cells?

Is there any mechanism in body which takes away water of infected or weak cells, unabling their death?
 
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