homeopathy, how does one make a correct dilution

[JoeTheJuggler]

Why not go the whole hog!

Every drop of water on Earth has likely been strained through rocks somewhere, passed over vegetable matter, gone through a dinosaur's kidneys, evaporated into the clouds, and mixed with every known natural salt in the oceans for hundreds of millions of years. Therefore, and especially since it can be diluted to any level required, ordinary tap water will be the ultimate and perfect homeopathic remedy for anything whatsoever that any plant or animal or person has that ails them.

Which means that any few drops of water is the perfect cure-all for everything...anything!

And, since homeopaths deny that regular tap water would indeed be a panacea, it always makes me wonder exactly when do they suppose an actual prepared homeopathic remedy stops being a remedy? When (and where) does it lose its potency or "potentiation"? In the mouth when you start to drink it? In the stomach when it mixes with the other stuff there? In the kidneys, in the bloodstream or bladder?

Of course that question also raises the question, "Where exactly in the body does a homeopathic remedy have a healing effect?" (Granted, we don't know the answer to that with many drugs, but we can at least narrow it down to a few possible sites--and given enough money, we probably could determine the precise action of every real drug.)

 

[CFLarsen]

Proof by authority!

www.boiron.com

It's true!

They know it works!

No, I'm not joking. That is, in fact, the answer.

Yeah. But this is one claim that they can't worm their way out of.

Testing homeopathy on sick people is complicated, and takes time and money.

But this can be tested very quickly and cheaply: To see if the homeopaths themselves can distinguish between homeopathic water cures and non-homeopathic water.

 

[Tanstaafl]

I don't know why people go about this the hard way. I suggest the Homeopathic Equivalency Method^TM:

1) Start with a small container of distilled water.

2) Label the container and it's ready for use.

 

[Zep]

I don't know why people go about this the hard way. I suggest the Homeopathic Equivalency Method^TM:

1) Start with a small container of distilled water.

2) Label the container and it's ready for use.

A French medical firm has already done exactly that, but with flash marketing to put the price up.

www.boiron.com

 

[Gravy]

homeopathy, how does one make a correct dilution

You put your right hand in,
You put your right hand out;
You put your right hand in,
And you shake it all about.
You do the Hokey-Pokey,
And you turn yourself around.
That's what it's all about!

 

[Gravy]

A French medical firm has already done exactly that, but with flash marketing to put the price up.

www.boiron.com

In 1990, the “multi-color” tube represented the various levels of homeopathic dilutions and encouraged accuracy in dispensing and treatment compliance because dosage were well-marked.

Today, translucency allows patients to see the quantity of medicine remaining in the tube, which alerts them to when their treatment needs to be renewed. This decreases the risk of interrupting a patient’s treatment.

The new homeopathic tubes have gradually been marketed in various countries. Use the interactive module to discover Boiron’s tubes and doses, color codes, dilutions, instructions, etc…

Planned for 2012 are tubes that sing "I got plenty of nothin" from Porgy and Bess when the tube is first opened, and "Nothin' from nothin' leaves nothin'" by Billy Preston when it's time to renew.

 

[Zep]

You have to admit: It's been one of the longest-running and most successful marketing campaigns about nothing ever!

 

[Zep]

homeopathy, how does one make a correct dilution

You put your right hand in,
You put your right hand out;
You put your right hand in,
And you shake it all about.
You do the Hokey-Pokey,
And you turn yourself around.
That's what it's all about!

That was the olden days, when movers and shakers were a dime-a-dozen. They have machines to do it now, which has destroyed the mystique, really.

 

[Gravy]

That was the olden days, when movers and shakers were a dime-a-dozen. They have machines to do it now, which has destroyed the mystique, really.

It's giving me ideas for Homeopathy: The Musical, though.

 

[Madalch]

It's giving me ideas for Homeopathy: The Musical, though.

Would it be as funny as "Cold Fusion: The Musical"?

http://www.subatomichumor.com/shows/coldfusion.html

 

[Zep]

It's giving me ideas for Homeopathy: The Musical, though.

Trumped, I'm afraid!

 

[Tokenconservative]

If homeopathic remedies are such incredibly dilute solutions ie 1 part active ingredient to 1 x 10^30 or 1 x 10^1000 parts water, can someone explain the manufacturing process?

I've been wondering for a while and it occurred to me that it must take some pretty swanky lab equipment to get to the right dilution - but then I realised I didn't know anything about lab equipment...

Has anyone actually witnessed the manufacturing process? (other than just filling up with tap water that is..)

The most expensive and sought-after homeopathic um...snake oil, is that which contains the least amount of the active ingrediant.

My understanding is that the very best stuff is simply stored for a short time in an open container near a supply of the active ingrediant.

Tokie

 

[Tokenconservative]

And, since homeopaths deny that regular tap water would indeed be a panacea, it always makes me wonder exactly when do they suppose an actual prepared homeopathic remedy stops being a remedy? When (and where) does it lose its potency or "potentiation"? In the mouth when you start to drink it? In the stomach when it mixes with the other stuff there? In the kidneys, in the bloodstream or bladder?

Of course that question also raises the question, "Where exactly in the body does a homeopathic remedy have a healing effect?" (Granted, we don't know the answer to that with many drugs, but we can at least narrow it down to a few possible sites--and given enough money, we probably could determine the precise action of every real drug.)

I believe the results from homeopathic cures are very easy to see and gauge: did the homeopath used to drive a Hyndai and now drives a Mercedes?

It must work!

Tokie

 

[Gravy]

Trumped, I'm afraid!

Well played, sir!

 

[kmortis]

The most expensive and sought-after homeopathic um...snake oil, is that which contains the least amount of the active ingrediant.

My understanding is that the very best stuff is simply stored for a short time in an open container near a supply of the active ingrediant.

Tokie

Would that make Churchill's recipe a homeopathic martini? At least as far as Vermouth is concerned.

 

[JoeTheJuggler]

I believe the results from homeopathic cures are very easy to see and gauge: did the homeopath used to drive a Hyndai and now drives a Mercedes?

It must work!

That's why they always say "it works" rather than any substantive about curative action of the stuff. It works well in its economic aims.

Seriously, though, almost any time I talk to a believer, one of their first lines of support is how popular the use of homeopathy is. Pretty much says the same thing you just said, TC.

 

[Zep]

Well played, sir!

Hard to tell, though, isn't it!

 

[Zep]

That's why they always say "it works" rather than any substantive about curative action of the stuff. It works well in its economic aims.

Seriously, though, almost any time I talk to a believer, one of their first lines of support is how popular the use of homeopathy is. Pretty much says the same thing you just said, TC.

That's their ONLY claim to proof - its popularity. Which is why I built the following truth-table:

 

[LordoftheLeftHand]

My understanding is that the very best stuff is simply stored for a short time in an open container near a supply of the active ingrediant.

Tokie

Oh I got much stronger stuff than that. I got bottles of water I keep unopened on the other side of the house from my chemicals. Now that's some REALLY strong stuff.

LLH

 

[Cuddles]

homeopathy, how does one make a correct dilution

You put your right hand in,
You put your right hand out;
You put your right hand in,
And you shake it all about.
You do the Hokey-Pokey,
And you turn yourself around.
That's what it's all about!

So that's why homeopathy doesn't work. All this time and they've been pronoucing "Hokey Cokey" wrong. I predict a fundamental breakthrough in modern medicine now that we've found the problem.