Elvis And Religion

[kmortis]

I wonder if it's significant that I've heard of everybody on your 'Christian' list but none on your 'A/A' list, notwithstanding it's a shorter list.

With your avatar and you've never heard of Anton LeVey?

Foolmewunz, what's your beef with Huxley?


ETA: Oh yeah. To the OP. That list is thouroughly unremarkable considering that he started out as a Gospel singer. In fact, most of Rock and Roll started out with religious roots in the form of African Spirituals (via the Blues), Gospel or traditional songs. This is not unknown, nor is it a sign that there's any validity to religion, in general, or Christianity, specifically. Much like Roger Martinez's conversion to Satanism neither detracts from the credability of Christianty, nor adds to the validity of Satanism.

 

[JoeEllison]

Logical fallacy, DOC loses again.

 

[Southwind17]

With your avatar and you've never heard of Anton LeVey?

It's true. Maybe I've led a sheltered upbringing around these parts!

 

[kmortis]

It's true. Maybe I've led a sheltered upbringing around these parts!

Well, don't let Foolmewunz's negatve impression sway you away from investigating him. He was an interesting character.

 

[Foolmewunz]

Foolmewunz, what's your beef with Huxley?

Nothing, really. Just acting as agent provocateur. I picked four names who've always had considerable pro and con discussion, but who never really even piqued my interest.

I did find Brave New World a little dull... I suppose that's why I include him in the "don't admire" list.

 

[joobz]

elvis' music is typically boring to me, but I respect him for coming out when he did. He made soul and blues accessible to white america. That's definitely a good thing.

On a side note: Marylin Manson went to catholic school.


ETA: I can assume that DOC starting this thread is as close to an admission that he was completely pwned in the 94% thread.

 

[grayman]

Elvis served in the Army.

Elvis liked fried peanut butter and banana sandwiches.

Elvis is an anagram for "lives".

Elvis had a twin.

Elvis made 33 movies.

 

[Lisa Simpson]

One of the very first threads I participated in here was by a troll who thought that because some astronaut (Buzz Aldrin, I think) is religious, religion must be right. It's comforting to note that people may come and go, but logical fallacies will live on and on and on. Or maybe it's not comforting, but there it is.

 

[madurobob]

Hmmm... actually, in singing those songs I think Elvis was simply alluding to what most of us already know: Elvis was the Messiah.

"Let me tell you.
Wellllllll...

Elvis is everywhere,
Elvis is everything,
Elvis is everybody,
Elvis is still the King.

...

Man, there's a lot of unexplained phenomenon out there in the world.
Lot of things people say What the heck's going on?
Let me tell you!

Who built the pyramids? ELVIS!
Who built Stonehenge? ELVIS!

Yeah, man you see guys walking down the street pushing shopping carts,
and you think they're talking to Allah, they're talking to themselves?
Man, no they're talking to ELVIS! ELVIS! ELVIS!

You know whats going on in that Bermuda Triangle?
Down in the Bermuda Triangle?
Elvis needs boats. Elvis needs boats. Elvis Elvis Elvis Elvis Elvis Elvis
Elvis needs boats.

Aahh! The Sailing Elvis! Captain Elvis! Commodore Elvis it is!
Yeah man, you know people from outer space, people from outer space they come up to me.
They don't look like like Doctor Spock. They don't look like Klingons, all that Star Trek jive.
They look like Elvis. ELVIS!
Everybody in outer space looks like Elvis.

Cause Elvis is a perfect being.
We are all moving in perfect peace and harmony towards Elvisness

Soon all will become Elvis.
Everything everywhere will be Elvis.

Why do you think they call it evolution anyway?
It's really Elvislution!
Elvislution!

... "
Mojo Nixon, with apologies

 

[Lisa Simpson]

Everyone knows Elvis is the Taco Prophet of the GTITS. All those religious songs are really sung for the GTITS. Anyone who says different is a heretic and shall be punished with 50 lashes with a churro.

 

[joobz]

Elvis did have a lot of women screaming the lord's name...
I wonder if you could consider those private one on one revival sessions?

 

[wollery]

Damn the new rules, if ever there was a thread in need of kittening, this is it! What a waste of bandwidth.

DOC, pointing out that certain people believe in God, no matter who they are, why they're famous, or how famous they are, does absolutely nothing, except show that religion is influential, and a lot of people believe in God. That's it. It's not interesting, except possibly as a point of study for anthropologists.

 

[Southwind17]

This website quotes Elvis as saying:

"I believe in the Bible. I believe that all good things come from God.…I don't believe I'd sing the way I do if God hadn't wanted me to. My voice is God's will, not mine."

I don't know if this is true, but if it is it's one of the reasons that Elvis is way down my list. Talk about absolving yourself from responsibility, or was he just covering all the bases!

 

[Foster Zygote]

I see DOC is writing his own parody threads now. How convenient.

 

[brodski]

I think DOC might be just trolling here, given the absence of any direction in the OP.

youre on the money here

It's at least provocative though,

how so? Elvis was a Christian- who has denied this, and who finds it a problem? Thai thread is only provocative because of the pattern of posting which doc has.

and, in my opinion, worthy of discussion, not because it's Elvis, but because of the relationship between religion and revered people/icons.

which relationship are you talking about?

I suspect you're a bit of an Elvis fan and, as such, would rather the matter be quietly disregarded.

how the hell did you get that from his quote- he was comparing Elvis to his next door neighbour in terms of relivence- I really don't see how you made the leap you did.

That's understandable, but not a good reason to dismiss it.

firstly it appears to be entirely your fantasy, secondly, dismiss what?

If you wish to be excused from this particular class that's OK with me.

And what, pray, do you intend to teach us? And how do you propose to teach anyone anything when you post in such a condescending manner?

 

[GeeMack]

You know, my next door neighbour is religious too. Should I start a thread about it, do you think?

Yes, you should start a thread about your neighbor's religiosity. But not until after he/she's been dead for thirty years.

 

[Lonewulf]

And what, pray, do you intend to teach us?

1) Elvis was religious.
2) ????
3) PROFIT!

 

[Southwind17]

Elvis was a Christian- who has denied this, and who finds it a problem?

Nobody, which is, I think, precisely what DOC is getting at.

which relationship are you talking about?

The relationship between religion and revered icons (where such a relationship exists, that is). DOC chose Elvis, for obvious reasons, but he could have chosen others, I suppose.

how the hell did you get that from his quote- he was comparing Elvis to his next door neighbour in terms of relivence- I really don't see how you made the leap you did.

I don't know where he lives, but I doubt it's next door to a revered icon, which is the differentiator here.

firstly it appears to be entirely your fantasy, secondly, dismiss what?

Im sorry - you've lost me - what does? Dismiss DOC's inference.

And what, pray, do you intend to teach us? And how do you propose to teach anyone anything when you post in such a condescending manner?

I don't intend to teach anything here. I didn't mean to sound condescending. Sarcastic, cynical - possibly - but if wanted to sound condscending I think I could make a much better effort.

So you're an Elvis fan too?

 

[Lonewulf]

Personally, I'm not quite an Elvis fan. Yet, I don't honestly care if he was religious or not. His religious preferences, or lack thereof, is of no more consequence than the average Joe Shmoe's, or than of my next-door neighbor.

Caring about his religious preferences is like caring about an actor's political beliefs. It's interesting, but unrelated to what they were actually known for. And it's next to useless information, outside of personal interest or trivia.

 

[Southwind17]

Personally, I'm not quite an Elvis fan. Yet, I don't honestly care if he was religious or not. His religious preferences, or lack thereof, is of no more consequence than the average Joe Shmoe's, or than of my next-door neighbor.

Caring about his religious preferences is like caring about an actor's political beliefs. It's interesting, but unrelated to what they were actually known for. And it's next to useless information, outside of personal interest or trivia.

You see, you're completely missing DOC's inferred point. I'm certainly not a fan either, which is why I, too, don't care about his religiosity. It's only if you are a fan that the question could become relevant.