The German Autumn

[Gurdur]

Guns just make it a hell of a lot easier.

You wouldn't like it if they did it with cocktail forks instead.

You should re-post that in the "Tasering Political Opinion" thread. Seems like some people really need a reminder.

Niemöller would only get tasered in there at the moment anyway. Ther's a certain O Effect going on in there. Best to wait for a more rational opportunity.

 

[Darth Rotor]

Guns just make it a hell of a lot easier.

Car bombs get you a better yield in corpses per attack, or so the trend in Iraq seems to show. Likewise bombs on trains, if Madrid and London are any indication.

That's exactly Chaos' point: That harsh measures do not contribute to end the threat.

Harsh measures directed at whom? Harsh measures is a rather vague term. Could you please be more specific, Claus?

When you start banning people from holding certain jobs merely for having opinions that differ from your own, you have started a slippery-slope.

I am sure you will soon be hiring a devout Mormon to help you with the Skeptic Report.

Don't forget Martin Niemöller:

Damn, I keep trying to forget him, but he keeps coming up in conversation.

If he and his fellow citizens had been gun owners, they could have fought back rather than being led away like sheep. To tie into to your first point, guns don't kill Nazis, people with guns kill Nazis, and they kill a hell of a lot more effectively than they can by attacking with fondue forks, or by breathing in Xyclon B.

DR

 

[Darth Rotor]

You should re-post that in the "Tasering Political Opinion" thread. Seems like some people really need a reminder.

Is it your position, then, that boisterously interrupting anothers' exercise of free political speech is a valid social norm and standard of behavior?

DR

 

[Chaos]

Is it your position, then, that boisterously interrupting anothers' exercise of free political speech is a valid social norm and standard of behavior?

DR

Calm it, folks. I would have liked this to be a calm and (more or less) rational debate.

 

[Gurdur]

Darth Rotor's point is a worthy one. It does demand a full answer.

 

[Darth Rotor]

Darth Rotor's point is a worthy one. It does demand a full answer.

While I agree, it relates to this thread only slightly, about the limits of political activity, but I think Chaos is reasonably correct to deem it more suitable to that other thread, that someone else introduced into this thread.

DR

 

[CFLarsen]

You wouldn't like it if they did it with cocktail forks instead.

Myth debunked long time ago.

Car bombs get you a better yield in corpses per attack, or so the trend in Iraq seems to show. Likewise bombs on trains, if Madrid and London are any indication.

They will use whatever it takes. Car bombs, suicide bombs, hijacked planes. Whatever it takes.

Harsh measures directed at whom? Harsh measures is a rather vague term. Could you please be more specific, Claus?

It isn't who the harsh measures are directed at, but who will be hit by them, regardless of whether they are the target group or not.

I am sure you will soon be hiring a devout Mormon to help you with the Skeptic Report.

First, I don't hire people for SkepticReport. It is a purely voluntary free service.

Second, there are no rules against any kind of belief, if you want to write articles for SkepticReport. E.g., Niels Christian Hvidt is a Catholic.

Do you really think that certain groups of people should be banned from working on skeptical websites, or writing in skeptical magazines, if said groups have superstitious beliefs?

You want to ban Mormons from working at Skeptic magazine?

Damn, I keep trying to forget him, but he keeps coming up in conversation.

If he and his fellow citizens had been gun owners, they could have fought back rather than being led away like sheep. To tie into to your first point, guns don't kill Nazis, people with guns kill Nazis, and they kill a hell of a lot more effectively than they can by attacking with fondue forks, or by breathing in Xyclon B.

You have utterly misunderstood Niemöller's point. He wasn't lamenting the lack of guns, but the willingness to look away when an oppressor vilified some groups within a population.

It's "Zyclon".

 

[Tailgater]

You should re-post that in the "Tasering Political Opinion" thread. Seems like some people really need a reminder.

A reminder of how much of a jackass someone can make of themselves to be a martyr for useful idiots.

 

[Darth Rotor]

Do you really think that certain groups of people should be banned from working on skeptical websites, or writing in skeptical magazines, if said groups have superstitious beliefs?

You want to ban Mormons from working at Skeptic magazine?

No, do you?

You have utterly misunderstood Niemöller's point. He wasn't lamenting the lack of guns, but the willingness to look away when an oppressor vilified some groups within a population.

You have utterly missed the joke. If you unpucker the anus, you may catch the next one. Do I have to put a banner on the top of the web page in screaming bright pink, 18 font bold letters, that I am bridging to your stubborn stance on guns for humorous effect? If so, I'll try to ensure that any time I intend to send a humorous needle out onto the internet for your reading pleasure, I'll label it accordingly. (Of course, that tends to lessen the efficacy of a joke, that pink label.)

It's "Zyclon".

Thank you for the correction, I should have proofed my post better. (My left pinky finger is being sent to bed without supper for having failed to strike the proper key.)

DR