The Christian Roots of America's Schools

[joobz]

I asked you to cite an example of God's word being mocked. Can you do this?

Allow me to be a bit more eacting:

Cite examples of God's word being mocked in public schools.

 

[fuelair]

I don't see what jesus has to do with the three R's?

DUK woulld/may latch on to that one fast: Redemption, Resurrection, Repentance.

 

[kmortis]

The IPU is a he!


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After many years of Gender Dysfunction Disorder, he finally went out to Colorado and had the initial consultation. He's undergoing hormone therapy, at the moment, but the surgery is scheduled for 2010. He asks that everyone refer to him as a "he" to help with the transition.

 

[joobz]

After many years of Gender Dysfunction Disorder, he finally went out to Colorado and had the initial consultation. He's undergoing hormone therapy, at the moment, but the surgery is scheduled for 2010. He asks that everyone refer to him as a "he" to help with the transition.

In that case, we must amend the creed:
there is no corn but Unicorn,
and Quaker is his Oatmeal.

 

[DOC]

Originally Posted by DOC
Here is an example where the college of William and Mary's president removed a cross from the very chapel Jefferson said prayers in when he was a student at the school. And remember this is a school that was founded partially to propagate the Christian faith.

"Administrators at the College of William & Mary, responding to months of harsh criticism from alumni, ordered the immediate return of a cross to the Williamsburg school's historic Wren Chapel yesterday. Alumni angered by the removal of the cross in October threatened to withhold millions of dollars of donations -- including a $12 million gift."

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/ke...WilliamAndMary

I asked you to cite an example of God's word being mocked. Can you do this?

"Mirecki {professor of religious studies at Kansas University} recently wrote online that he planned to teach intelligent design as mythology in an upcoming course. He wrote it would be a “nice slap” in the “big fat face” of fundamentalists."

http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2005/dec/05/mirecki_hospitalized_after_beating/?breaking

 

[thaiboxerken]

How is teaching intelligent design is mythology a mockery of "god's word?" After all, it really is mythology.

 

[JoeEllison]

How is teaching intelligent design is mythology a mockery of "god's word?" After all, it really is mythology.

No, we're supposed to treat Biblical superstition differently from other superstitions, because it is the majority superstition. No good reason, but then again if reason were involved the Bible would be in the fiction section of the library.

 

[JoeEllison]

Originally Posted by DOC
Here is an example where the college of William and Mary's president removed a cross from the very chapel Jefferson said prayers in when he was a student at the school. And remember this is a school that was founded partially to propagate the Christian faith.

"Administrators at the College of William & Mary, responding to months of harsh criticism from alumni, ordered the immediate return of a cross to the Williamsburg school's historic Wren Chapel yesterday. Alumni angered by the removal of the cross in October threatened to withhold millions of dollars of donations -- including a $12 million gift."

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/ke...WilliamAndMary






"Mirecki {professor of religious studies at Kansas University} recently wrote online that he planned to teach intelligent design as mythology in an upcoming course. He wrote it would be a “nice slap” in the “big fat face” of fundamentalists."

http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2005/dec/05/mirecki_hospitalized_after_beating/?breaking

And then some hate-filled anti-American Christians assaulted him... interesting, the detail you leave out. Of course, you probably approve of the assault. your link doesn't say what you claim it does... lying again?

 

[Cleon]

Claim by Kennedy et al, as cited by DOC:

Today, for the most part, God's Word is mocked in the very schools that were founded by the sweat of Christians".

Evidence cited:

Originally Posted by DOC
Here is an example where the college of William and Mary's president removed a cross from the very chapel Jefferson said prayers in when he was a student at the school. And remember this is a school that was founded partially to propagate the Christian faith.

Problem:

Removal of a religious icon is not "mocking God's word" by any reasonable definition.

Therefore, this is not evidence of the claim presented.


Further evidence cited by DOC:

"Mirecki {professor of religious studies at Kansas University} recently wrote online that he planned to teach intelligent design as mythology in an upcoming course. He wrote it would be a “nice slap” in the “big fat face” of fundamentalists."

Problem #1: Mocking fundamentalists is not "mocking God's word." Neither is teaching "Intelligent Design" as mythology. (It sure as hell isn't science.)

Problem #2: There is no evidence that Kansas University was founded as a Christian institution.

Therefore, this is not evidence of the claim presented.

 

[DOC]

How is teaching intelligent design is mythology a mockery of "god's word?" After all, it really is mythology.

Not according to 3 billion people and not according to every US president (that is unless they were lying in their inaugural addresses). And for that matter not according to any country that has "In God We Trust" as their national anthem.

 

[Garrette]

Not according to 3 billion people and not according to every US president (that is unless they were lying in their inaugural addresses). And for that matter not according to any country that has "In God We Trust" as their national anthem.

So, then, you don't even know what "Intelligent Design" is.

Not surprising.

 

[brodski]

And for that matter not according to any country that has "In God We Trust" as their national anthem.

Which nation has that as their national anthem? What is the tune? What are the lyrics? Which god?

 

[JoeEllison]

Not according to 3 billion people and not according to every US president (that is unless they were lying in their inaugural addresses). And for that matter not according to any country that has "In God We Trust" as their national anthem.

Let's see... you don't know what "mockery" means". You don't know what the word "anthem" means. You don't know what "intelligent design" is. You obviously don't know what "honesty" means.

 

[Blindwatcher]

From answers.com:
my·thol·o·gy (mĭ-thŏl'ə-jē)
n., pl. -gies.

1 (a) A body or collection of myths belonging to a people and addressing their origin, history, deities, ancestors, and heroes.

myth (mĭth)
n.

1 (a) A traditional, typically ancient story dealing with supernatural beings, ancestors, or heroes that serves as a fundamental type in the worldview of a people, as by explaining aspects of the natural world or delineating the psychology, customs, or ideals of society: the myth of Eros and Psyche; a creation myth.


Seems to fit intelligent design fairly well regardless of who spouts it.

 

[JoeEllison]

From answers.com:
my·thol·o·gy (mĭ-thŏl'ə-jē)
n., pl. -gies.

1 (a) A body or collection of myths belonging to a people and addressing their origin, history, deities, ancestors, and heroes.

myth (mĭth)
n.

1 (a) A traditional, typically ancient story dealing with supernatural beings, ancestors, or heroes that serves as a fundamental type in the worldview of a people, as by explaining aspects of the natural world or delineating the psychology, customs, or ideals of society: the myth of Eros and Psyche; a creation myth.


Seems to fit fairly well regarless of who spouts it.

But, hey, we're supposed to pretend that one sect's mythology is real... not for any reason except they can find famous people who also believed it.

 

[bokonon]

Which nation has that as their national anthem? What is the tune?

I may not know the tune, but I can hum it when I hear it.

 

[Cleon]

Not according to 3 billion people and not according to every US president (that is unless they were lying in their inaugural addresses). And for that matter not according to any country that has "In God We Trust" as their national anthem.

Wrong. From start to finish.

 

[thaiboxerken]

Not according to 3 billion people and not according to every US president (that is unless they were lying in their inaugural addresses). And for that matter not according to any country that has "In God We Trust" as their national anthem.

Even IF what you said was true, it doesn't matter. Intelligent Design is still mythology. No matter how many people believe a myth, it still remains a myth.

 

[DOC]

There is no evidence that Kansas University was founded as a Christian institution[/URL].

Here is a little info about a Mr Amos Lawrence who was a major donor for the start up of Kansas University in "Lawrence" Kansas.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Kansas

"Lawrence also contributed large sums of money to Harvard {founded by donations of Reverand John Harvard} and the Episcopal Theological School (now Episcopal Divinity School), in Cambridge, Massachusetts...

Amos Adams Lawrence is credited with founding an Episcopalian dynasty in Boston, Massachusetts, which prompted many Boston Brahmins to convert from Unitarianism.

Amos Adams Lawrence's son, William Lawrence, took an even more avid interest in the Episcopalian church, and became the long-time bishop of Massachusetts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amos_Adams_Lawrence


It can certainly be said that the start up of Kansas University benefited greatly from a man with very strong Christian beliefs. I wonder what he would think about one of its professors mocking fundamentalists by talking about their fat faces and slapping.

 

[JoeEllison]

It can certainly be said that the start up of Kansas University benefited greatly from a man with very strong Christian beliefs. I wonder what he would think about one of its professors mocking fundamentalists by talking about their fat faces and slapping.

Who cares? On what delusional planet does any of that matter?