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Loose Change Final Cut premiering in.. Norway?

jhunter1163 said:
The market. You know, the few dozen teenage boys who are saving their allowances to buy Mr. Avery's opus on PPV. If it's released prematurely on YouTube, those teenage boys are going to say "Cool! I can see the movie AND buy that Dark Knight comic!"
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Oh, right. That market. Naturally, if such a copyright violation took place, Mr. Avery should take the culprits to court and sue them for $38 in damages.
 
It's just past 11am, and 32 of 655 tickets for the noon screening have been sold.

I know, I know, there's a full hour left and they'll sell thousands of tickets at the last minute.
 
jsiv said:
It's just past 11am, and 32 of 655 tickets for the noon screening have been sold.
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maccy said:
Given that jsiv has Svalbard as part of his custom title, I'd guess that he can easily point to Norway on a map. In fact, if I had to, I'd guess he was Norwegian, or at least from Scandinavia.
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Judging by his avatar, my first suspicion would be that he's not from Norway, but from Bergen.
 
Ersu over at LCF attended the screening and posted a quick review. It gives you the basic outline of how the movie will look.


Here it is:



The first chapter about the hijackers and the conlusion was not in the test screening we wached. The man that was in WTC7 and heard explosions was neither in the movie.
* Prologue

+Very good introduction to the movie B)
+ Perfect
+ Better than even I could imagine.
- nothing

Chapter 2: The Able Danger Program
+ God iformation and wery important too.
- It shows only clips from tv stations, nothing new info

Chapter 3: the flights and NORAD tapes:
This is really the climax of the movie. Fantastic animations that shows all the planes. Very entertaining. Also shows many lies in the 9/11 commission. Perfect.
+ If the whole documentary was like this, it would be the best documentary in the world.
- nothing

Chapter 4: Pentagon
Shows both version and wich problems both they have to fit the facts.
+ Interviews people that actually saw the plane
+ Great animation + great interview with Ray McGovern (funny) :lol:
- Does not take up the research pilotes for 9/11 trut have done, and insted focuses that no-pane hit the building
- to long, many of the interviews takes to much time
- not as god edited as the last chapter.

Chapter 5: WTC
This is by far, the worst chapter in the movie.
+ Takes up the problem that the goverment lied about that the air was safe to breathe.
+ The video with a NIST guy cought in a lie. Nice!
+ The ending was good. Go to jail Christine Todd Whitman
- This chapter is even easier to debunk than the 2 edition
- Almost as washing 2 edition all over again
- Not as good editing, and far far far to long!!!!!!
- The first minutes in this chapter is just a waste of time. People talk and talk with no point at all. Discussing wich type of plane they saw over radio. People in the movie theatre bagan to yawn, bacause nobody understood anything.
- The movie shows to many people that are talking about explosions in the building. Almost everyone of them was in the 2nd dition, but where is William Rodriguez? My advice: Take only the 3-4 most important vitness and focus on them. Put the rest of the accounts in the extra matherial section.
- Many of the interviews were to long. For example, Steven Jones had to long intruduction and as he mentiod that there were 11 signs of controll demoliton the movie got boring. The movie focused far to much on them, and they could easily be debunkt.. My advice: Dont mention that there are so, so many signs of controll demolition. Just take the most important points and use some time on them. Use just enough time on them, so that a regular person can question the collaps. Put the rest in the extra stuff when the dvd comes out.
- Dont waste time on discussion question that easily can be debunkt.
- It takes time before the movie comes to a point in this chapter.
I would say: Focus less on WTC and more on WTC7. Use your time and cut this chapter to at least its half. Please, edit this capter as good as you did with the first. Please, please.

Chapter 6: Flight 93
Many good points, but far from perfect.
+ Great animation at the end.
+ Good points
- Some of the videos in this chapter have bin debukt quite good, and at I dont see a reason to put it there one more time.
- Not as god as the first chapters.
- Cut some of the videos from the tv stations and forcus more on really good points you had in the movie.

Chapter 7: WTC7
+ Good animation
+ God editing
- Sad that the guy that was in WTC7 and felt explosions, had gotten many threats so you could not include him in the movie.

Conclusion:
I had very high expectations for this movie. In the first 0-1 hour, the movie exceed my expectations. But then it became to similar to 2ed and had not the same standards as the previes chapters. But it`s still more powerfull documentary than the previews editions. :D
Loose Change: Final Cut can be one of the best documentary ever if they fix it`s problems. Don`t put in more info in the film, but cut the chapter about WTC + flight 93 and re-edit it. I want to show Final Cut in my school, but first the movie needs to be entertaining enough so the people wants to se the whole 2+ hours and not the only first hour.
Tanks for the much hard work you have put in this movie. :D
Gret job Loose Change guys

- http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=15303 -
 
Hyperviolet said:
Ersu over at LCF attended the screening and posted a quick review. It gives you the basic outline of how the movie will look.


Here it is:



The first chapter about the hijackers and the conlusion was not in the test screening we wached. The man that was in WTC7 and heard explosions was neither in the movie.
* Prologue

+Very good introduction to the movie B)
+ Perfect
+ Better than even I could imagine.
- nothing

Chapter 2: The Able Danger Program
+ God iformation and wery important too.
- It shows only clips from tv stations, nothing new info

Chapter 3: the flights and NORAD tapes:
This is really the climax of the movie. Fantastic animations that shows all the planes. Very entertaining. Also shows many lies in the 9/11 commission. Perfect.
+ If the whole documentary was like this, it would be the best documentary in the world.
- nothing

Chapter 4: Pentagon
Shows both version and wich problems both they have to fit the facts.
+ Interviews people that actually saw the plane
+ Great animation + great interview with Ray McGovern (funny) :lol:
- Does not take up the research pilotes for 9/11 trut have done, and insted focuses that no-pane hit the building
- to long, many of the interviews takes to much time
- not as god edited as the last chapter.

Chapter 5: WTC
This is by far, the worst chapter in the movie.
+ Takes up the problem that the goverment lied about that the air was safe to breathe.
+ The video with a NIST guy cought in a lie. Nice!
+ The ending was good. Go to jail Christine Todd Whitman
- This chapter is even easier to debunk than the 2 edition
- Almost as washing 2 edition all over again
- Not as good editing, and far far far to long!!!!!!
- The first minutes in this chapter is just a waste of time. People talk and talk with no point at all. Discussing wich type of plane they saw over radio. People in the movie theatre bagan to yawn, bacause nobody understood anything.
- The movie shows to many people that are talking about explosions in the building. Almost everyone of them was in the 2nd dition, but where is William Rodriguez? My advice: Take only the 3-4 most important vitness and focus on them. Put the rest of the accounts in the extra matherial section.
- Many of the interviews were to long. For example, Steven Jones had to long intruduction and as he mentiod that there were 11 signs of controll demoliton the movie got boring. The movie focused far to much on them, and they could easily be debunkt.. My advice: Dont mention that there are so, so many signs of controll demolition. Just take the most important points and use some time on them. Use just enough time on them, so that a regular person can question the collaps. Put the rest in the extra stuff when the dvd comes out.
- Dont waste time on discussion question that easily can be debunkt.
- It takes time before the movie comes to a point in this chapter.
I would say: Focus less on WTC and more on WTC7. Use your time and cut this chapter to at least its half. Please, edit this capter as good as you did with the first. Please, please.

Chapter 6: Flight 93
Many good points, but far from perfect.
+ Great animation at the end.
+ Good points
- Some of the videos in this chapter have bin debukt quite good, and at I dont see a reason to put it there one more time.
- Not as god as the first chapters.
- Cut some of the videos from the tv stations and forcus more on really good points you had in the movie.

Chapter 7: WTC7
+ Good animation
+ God editing
- Sad that the guy that was in WTC7 and felt explosions, had gotten many threats so you could not include him in the movie.

Conclusion:
I had very high expectations for this movie. In the first 0-1 hour, the movie exceed my expectations. But then it became to similar to 2ed and had not the same standards as the previes chapters. But it`s still more powerfull documentary than the previews editions. :D
Loose Change: Final Cut can be one of the best documentary ever if they fix it`s problems. Don`t put in more info in the film, but cut the chapter about WTC + flight 93 and re-edit it. I want to show Final Cut in my school, but first the movie needs to be entertaining enough so the people wants to se the whole 2+ hours and not the only first hour.
Tanks for the much hard work you have put in this movie. :D
Gret job Loose Change guys

- http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=15303 -
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god sure did a lot og editing on this movie
 
and insted focuses that no-pane hit the building
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This is surprising, given the stance of Do-Over and Friends at the Loose With the Truth Forum. I suspect that the no-planer parts will be edited out of the "Final Final Final Final Final We Really Mean it This Time" version of the Twoof.
 
ah, how typical.. (from the LC forum):
BTW... we should be aware that the film is still being edited, and the version Ersa saw will not be the final version.
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Still being edited? Not the final version? So... "Final Cut" doesn't mean Final Cut?
 
"Loose Change: Final Cut can be one of the best documentary ever if they fix it`s problems."

And one of the shortest!
 
It's very telling, that the best part of the movie are the animations. Not the facts.
 
Ersu @ LCF said:
Yes, it was full, so they sreened the movie 2 more times the next day. The movie became popular there even before its premiere because it got hypet up on the local tv news days before its sreening.
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"Hyped on the local tv news"? I wonder if they actually sold out all those 600 seats...

livefreeordietryin @ Sep 9 2007 said:
Who narrated? Dylan?
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Yes he did, but I dont belive that he will be narrating the movie in the final version.
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Final version? Come on! I thought this was the final version?

This is just getting so ridiculous..

www.protest.no said:
Loose Change Final Cut is the third and final edition of an American documentary, written and produced by Dylan Avery and produced by Korey Rowe in cooperation with researcher Jason Bermas. All of them are from New York.
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So they have been lying to the Protest Festival?

I wonder what comes first, Loose Change (the last and FINAL version) or Duke Nukem Forever
 
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