carlson test and debunking randi

idunno said:
the late twin is more extrovert and agreessive than the first.
the first is more sensitive and dreamy
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Incorrect. Twin W, the first-born, is much more extroverted, out-going, relaxed, and aggressive than the late twin, who is sensitive (to the point of fearfulness, often), but not dreamy.

In fact, at the age of three days, they were nicknamed "Leaky" and "Shrieky", since William's diaper never seemed to fit very well, and Alex would toss his head back and scream at the slightest provocation (such as there being laughter in the room, or the smell of a dirty diaper in the air, or Sylvia Browne being on TV somewhere in the city).

Even now, at the age of three, William will go up to strangers and be friendly, while Alex runs to the arms of the nearest of his parents at the sight of strange people. William will happily jump in the wading pool and splash for all he's worth, while Alex gets in with great trepidation and cries if his face gets splashed. William is still perfectly willing to hit Alex in the head with whatever toy is handy, although he now only does it when he's quite angry (he used to think it was a fun game). Alex has -never- hit William with a toy, even at his angriest (although William does have a set of bite marks on his arm from an argument they had in May).

Now, you may claim that your horoscope was in error because of your mistake in the time zones, or that you meant it the other way around (in which case I'd dismiss it as a lucky guess). But can you really believe that astrology is a useful tool if such widely different personalities are the result of a mere twenty minutes in birth times? Are there -no- similarities expected from two boys born not only in the same sign, but in the same hour? The boys could not be further apart in personality.

Anyway, if you want to try again, I have a good friend who is one of a set of triplets. Shall I ask her for the times of her and her sisters' births?
 
I forgot to add "lazy". William, the older twin, is very lazy- he gave up nursing a year before Alex did because the bottles required less effort. Even now he will sit at the table and whine, "Feed me!" while Alex happily eats his meal.
 
Ok, you've got my curiosity going. Were I to provide my birth information, would you consider telling me about myself?
 
Madalch said:
Incorrect. Twin W, the first-born, is much more extroverted, out-going, relaxed, and aggressive than the late twin, who is sensitive (to the point of fearfulness, often), but not dreamy.

In fact, at the age of three days, they were nicknamed "Leaky" and "Shrieky", since William's diaper never seemed to fit very well, and Alex would toss his head back and scream at the slightest provocation (such as there being laughter in the room, or the smell of a dirty diaper in the air, or Sylvia Browne being on TV somewhere in the city).

Even now, at the age of three, William will go up to strangers and be friendly, while Alex runs to the arms of the nearest of his parents at the sight of strange people. William will happily jump in the wading pool and splash for all he's worth, while Alex gets in with great trepidation and cries if his face gets splashed. William is still perfectly willing to hit Alex in the head with whatever toy is handy, although he now only does it when he's quite angry (he used to think it was a fun game). Alex has -never- hit William with a toy, even at his angriest (although William does have a set of bite marks on his arm from an argument they had in May).

Now, you may claim that your horoscope was in error because of your mistake in the time zones, or that you meant it the other way around (in which case I'd dismiss it as a lucky guess). But can you really believe that astrology is a useful tool if such widely different personalities are the result of a mere twenty minutes in birth times? Are there -no- similarities expected from two boys born not only in the same sign, but in the same hour? The boys could not be further apart in personality.

Anyway, if you want to try again, I have a good friend who is one of a set of triplets. Shall I ask her for the times of her and her sisters' births?
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here zi wei or chinese astrology was right and western wrong.
yep i take the triplets challenge. exciting!!!!!:D
 
idunno said:
the late twin is more extrovert and agreessive than the first.
the first is more sensitive and dreamy:D
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wow is Vernon Canada 119 longitude west but uses the same time as New York which is 75 west?
Its a 3 hour difference from sun time.
 
idunno said:
wow is Vernon Canada 119 longitude west but uses the same time as New York which is 75 west?
Its a 3 hour difference from sun time.
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Nice non-answer there idunno....

Can you explain why all your previous attempts have failed, and what is to be gained by additional attempts (other then more failures)?
 
idunno said:
wow is Vernon Canada 119 longitude west but uses the same time as New York which is 75 west?
Its a 3 hour difference from sun time.
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As I said in a previous post, it does not use the same time as New York, it uses Pacific Time (just like Seattle and San Francisco).

If you cannot figure out time zones, even after being given hints, then it's a waste of time to use you to test astrology. How can we ask you to read the stars when you can't manage a clock?
 
Madalch said:
As I said in a previous post, it does not use the same time as New York, it uses Pacific Time (just like Seattle and San Francisco).

If you cannot figure out time zones, even after being given hints, then it's a waste of time to use you to test astrology. How can we ask you to read the stars when you can't manage a clock?
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He doesn't do his own charts. He gets these from a website.
 
the time zones are calculated by software, but for chinese charts im the one who has to calculate them
 
idunno said:
the time zones are calculated by software, but for chinese charts im the one who has to calculate them
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Well...you've had several days, and yet nada, zippo, nothing. Humm.....

Also, still no explaination as to how you've missed/been wrong in your other attempts here. Surly nothing so obvious as "astrology does not work"....naw, what I am thinking!
 
Madalch said:
Incorrect. Twin W, the first-born, is much more extroverted, out-going, relaxed, and aggressive than the late twin, who is sensitive (to the point of fearfulness, often), but not dreamy.

In fact, at the age of three days, they were nicknamed "Leaky" and "Shrieky", since William's diaper never seemed to fit very well, and Alex would toss his head back and scream at the slightest provocation (such as there being laughter in the room, or the smell of a dirty diaper in the air, or Sylvia Browne being on TV somewhere in the city).

Even now, at the age of three, William will go up to strangers and be friendly, while Alex runs to the arms of the nearest of his parents at the sight of strange people. William will happily jump in the wading pool and splash for all he's worth, while Alex gets in with great trepidation and cries if his face gets splashed. William is still perfectly willing to hit Alex in the head with whatever toy is handy, although he now only does it when he's quite angry (he used to think it was a fun game). Alex has -never- hit William with a toy, even at his angriest (although William does have a set of bite marks on his arm from an argument they had in May).

Now, you may claim that your horoscope was in error because of your mistake in the time zones, or that you meant it the other way around (in which case I'd dismiss it as a lucky guess). But can you really believe that astrology is a useful tool if such widely different personalities are the result of a mere twenty minutes in birth times? Are there -no- similarities expected from two boys born not only in the same sign, but in the same hour? The boys could not be further apart in personality.

Anyway, if you want to try again, I have a good friend who is one of a set of triplets. Shall I ask her for the times of her and her sisters' births?
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Dont you think theyre too young for testing? Gimme older twins:)
 
idunno said:
I`m back..ready to kick ass!!!
Gimme those triplets birthdates:D
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Welcome back....though I noticed you still have not provided answers as to your past failures in proving your claims.

Certianly the "shotgun" approach, in the hopes of eventually getting one right, is not proof.
 
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