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Euthanasia - Murder Trial

This is a terrible injustice.
Can't anything be done?
Clearly this is an act of mercy.
My idea for a protest sign would be:
Don't Punish an Act of Mercy

Is there anyone we can write to to protest this?
 
Remember, there are two phases to a criminal trial - culpability and sentencing. If, under law, he is guilty, the reasons for his actions should affect his sentence.
 
Remember, there are two phases to a criminal trial - culpability and sentencing. If, under law, he is guilty, the reasons for his actions should affect his sentence.

Correct. The bad news is, once convicted the minimum sentence is 10 years.

I'm surprised that a jury had the heartlessness to convict him, tbh.

The trouble is that heart has nothing to do with it - the law is very clear and several others are currently in jail for the same crime.

N.B. He hasn't been found guilty yet.

TA: Is it a jury trial? Not every country has trial by jury. Japan, for one, does not.

Yes, it will be a jury trial, and previous judges have been very stringent in advising juries to ignore personal feelings and purely decide guilt or innocence on the facts. That's happened every time to date.
 
Yes, it will be a jury trial, and previous judges have been very stringent in advising juries to ignore personal feelings and purely decide guilt or innocence on the facts. That's happened every time to date.

I hope that if this happened in America, one of the jurors would know about jury nullification.
 
ive heard of cases of mercy killings where a person got convicted but the judges worked out the lightest sentance possible under the law. I do not know much about the legal system there but hopefully something similar is possible :(
 
What would have happened I wonder if instead of admitting it to the nurse he had simply stated "I have no comment" and lawyered up? Would that have made a difference? People often pave the way for their own conviction with such statements. Of course, I can't say what I would do in the circumstances. Sometimes you don't handle things as would have if you had carefully thought it through in advance.
 
What would have happened I wonder if instead of admitting it to the nurse he had simply stated "I have no comment" and lawyered up?

Even better than no comment would have been a simple, "What? I have no idea what you're talking about. The syringe was empty, you say? How did that happen?"

Then again, as you say, the state of mind of someone who's just topped his mum mightn't be up to that level.
 
There are cases where the defendant, despite strong evidence that the person is guilty has been found not guilty by the jury. This has happened not because the jury being stupid but because the defendant did not deserve to go to jail.

One case I can think of is that a security guard was robbed and bashed and as the robbers were running away she shot and killed one of them. The jury found her not guilty. It is bed time and so do not have the time to find a link.
 
In Texas a man shot a man who allegedly molested his kids. There was no question but that he did it. It was on video. The jury found not guilty.
 
Correct. The bad news is, once convicted the minimum sentence is 10 years.



The trouble is that heart has nothing to do with it - the law is very clear and several others are currently in jail for the same crime.

N.B. He hasn't been found guilty yet.



Yes, it will be a jury trial, and previous judges have been very stringent in advising juries to ignore personal feelings and purely decide guilt or innocence on the facts. That's happened every time to date.
Like a real jury would follow that pathetic "rule".:)
 
In Texas a man shot a man who allegedly molested his kids. There was no question but that he did it. It was on video. The jury found not guilty.

Like I said just above. The sad thing is there are places in the US so pathetic they would have voted guilty.
 
Great news!

The Justices hearing the case have managed to change the charge from murder to attempted murder, so now, even if found guilty, he doesn't have to do jail time.

This is the first time in NZ's history that a murder charge brought by the Crown has been discharged at deposition. Hope the Justice Dep't doesn't appeal, but it appears that the pathologist's report gives the escape from the murder charge.

Link

It might encourage other pathologists to write their reports in the same fashion. Can only hope.
 
I do not get it. How can a person be guilty of attempted murder when the person died? Maybe he failed to kill the person and he died of other causes?
 
I do not get it. How can a person be guilty of attempted murder when the person died? Maybe he failed to kill the person and he died of other causes?

1 He admitted to hitting the whole syringe.

2 He had been advised that doing that may cause death.

3 The pathologist stated:

Post Mortem said:
the cause of death was "advanced intra abdominal malignancy, with morphine a possible contributing factor".

Murder cannot therefore be proven, because the morphine wasn't a certain cause of death - the pathologist has declined to say that it killed her, because the cancer was far advanced enough that it could equally have been the cause of death.

The son tried to kill her, so he's being done for attempted murder, which I must admit is a bit odd, because the victim of an attempted murder isn't usually dead.
 
Like I said just above. The sad thing is there are places in the US so pathetic they would have voted guilty.

How pathetic. Clearly enyone who thinks that someone has committed a crime should be free to kill them without having to bother with details like a trial or evidence.
 

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