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Proud Agnostics here?

Agnostic??

  • Oh yes I am!

    Votes: 20 58.8%

  • Elephants make good lovers

    Votes: 14 41.2%
  • Total voters
    34

Undesired Walrus

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Undesired Walrus
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Yes. I am coming out as a proud agnostic.

Refuting any argument for proof of God in the universe, in any shape or form.

But I'm not going to reduce my experience here in life down to a set of amneable and proven truths.

I think that makes an agnostic.

Any others?
 
Undesired Walrus said:
Yes. I am coming out as a proud agnostic.

Refuting any argument for proof of God in the universe, in any shape or form.

But I'm not going to reduce my experience here in life down to a set of amneable and proven truths.

I think that makes an agnostic.

Any others?
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Technically speaking, agnosticism deals with the ability to know something. More specifically, one might be agnostic if they feel they do not have knowledge of the existance of a god. Another, more "hard" form of agnosticism, is the stance that it is impossible to know about the existance of a god.
 
I find the term "agnostic" to be meaningless as no one has knowledge of the existence of gods.

It sounds to me like you don't believe in any gods, meaning you are an atheist.
 
Civilized Worm said:
I find the term "agnostic" to be meaningless as no one has knowledge of the existence of gods.

It sounds to me like you don't believe in any gods, meaning you are an atheist.
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Well, I'd prefer to not be any 'ism' really (The very nature of my post seems to stretch against that).

I don't believe in a Biblical God.

But, I am a person who believes in Satre's;

'There is no meaning in existence, only nothingness'

I do not believe in a world that can be reduced to a set of amenable truths, and nor do I believe in truth, science and reason as the way Humanity should be living its life.

I am an existentialist in more thoughts than most, but it makes me resent rationalism, as I see it, not theism, as the enemy of existentialism.

If you want to know which 'ism' gives me the most comfort, it is Atheism. But, of course, that does not make it true.
 
Undesired Walrus said:
Well, I'd prefer to not be any 'ism' really (The very nature of my post seems to stretch against that).

I don't believe in a Biblical God.

But, I am a person who believes in Satre's;

'There is no meaning in existence, only nothingness'

I do not believe in a world that can be reduced to a set of amenable truths, and nor do I believe in truth, science and reason as the way Humanity should be living its life.

I am an existentialist in more thoughts than most, but it makes me resent rationalism, as I see it, not theism, as the enemy of existentialism.

If you want to know which 'ism' gives me the most comfort, it is Atheism. But, of course, that does not make it true.
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why do you fight to lable yourself?
 
Undesired Walrus said:
If you want to know which 'ism' gives me the most comfort, it is Atheism. But, of course, that does not make it true.
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Well if you are ever presented with evidence of a deity you would have every reason to abandon that position. Given that that has yet to happen you are and will most likely remain an atheist and an agnostic (and plenty of other things I'm sure).
 
Agnostic just means "without knowledge", nothing more. Elephants, on the other hand . . . well to "know" one is to love one.
 
Civilized Worm said:
I find the term "agnostic" to be meaningless as no one has knowledge of the existence of gods.
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I'm perfectly happy self-identifying as a hard-line agnostic.

That is to say, not only do I deny personal knowledge of God; I deny that anyone has knowledge of God, or even that such knowledge can be obtained.

The term simply isn't well-enough defined; the Deist's Great Watchmaker, for example, cannot be personally known by definition, and similarly is completely unfalsifiable, so He can't be inferred, either.

I find the God Hypothesis unnecessary and unparsimonious, but that's not enough to raise me to the level of atheism....
 
Lisa Simpson said:
Meh. I'm Apathetic.
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Apathetic you are? As a practicing IgnosticistI blame you for people not being able to make any sense of the concept of people making any sense as far as people making sense when they talk about "God". You simply don't care, do you?

If hell, as a concept, would make any sense at all, you'd definitely be on your way there! For not caring at all.
 
I voted yes.

I love whoever's sig about Militant Agnosticism:

I don't know, and neither do you.

:D
 
I've called myself agnostic, mostly because I have witnessed some really hard-nosed, dogmatic atheism and I find it to be just as silly as any other militant thought.

And I do love elephants :D
 
I've called myself agnostic, mostly because I have witnessed some really hard-nosed, dogmatic atheism and I find it to be just as silly as any other militant thought.
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YES.

People tend to get too tied down with the complicated definition of agnosticism.

Quite simply, I'm not suire if there is something going on or not. Sometimes I question if there could be, and sometimes I think there may be. I am, 'without knowledge'. That seems to be what Agnosticism is these days, at least it is for Woody Allen.

Plus, agnostics are smarter and more trendy then Atheists. OH behave!
 
Undesired Walrus said:
YES.

People tend to get too tied down with the complicated definition of agnosticism.

Quite simply, I'm not suire if there is something going on or not. Sometimes I question if there could be, and sometimes I think there may be. I am, 'without knowledge'. That seems to be what Agnosticism is these days, at least it is for Woody Allen.

Plus, agnostics are smarter and more trendy then Atheists. OH behave!
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Oh behave!
I mentioned this in another thread, but it really depends on how you define God. If God means that the Bible or the Koran or the Book of Mormon is the literal inerrant truth, I am an atheist. If it is a nonspecific deist God who created the universe and then left it alone to see what weird things might develop, I am an agnostic.
 
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