Time to kick Iran

[Ion]

But the US were very young..



You still do not reply to me about that " Le Galois "..



??????????????
" Socialist Europe "?



Basically, all the people in the U.S. today, except all natives, are immigrants, or sons of immigrants, or grand-son of immigrants, etc.
Not particularly from Eastern Europe, though..




Do you have any evidence, that TI and Motorola import the majority ( or, an abundance ) of Engineers from Eastern Europe, companing to other places?



Drat!!
Really strange, that many breakthroughs in science and technology happen in the US, and not in Eastern Europe..

Matteo, you play dumb but you understood long ago:

you responded when I pointed out that Western Germany Chancellor was Socialist Willy Brandt, and you brought up Germany's left-wing Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder.

Eastern Europe was Communist.

Western and Northern Europe was and is (close to) Socialism.

Socialist Europe means Western and Northern Europe.

Stop playing dumb, pretending that you confuse Socialism and Communism.

 

[Ion]

So, you are bashing the US educational system, because of a quote in a book wrote about 90 years ago..
Geeee....



What can you reply on this??
What about Romanians, who had Ceaucescu??

90 years ago, U.S. had 141 years of existence.

Plenty of time to show some brains in mathematics.

(As for Romanians who had Ceausescu, Ceausescu was not elected by Romanians.
In January 1945, Roosevelt, Churchill and Stalin partitioned Europe at Yalta.
Romania (and other countries) fell under Stalin's U.S.S.R.'s influence.
Due to U.S.S.R.'s influence in Romania, U.S.S.R. forced Communist leaders like Dej, Maurer and Ceausescu.
So, Ceausescu is a by-product of Yalta.
But this is a paranthesis.)

I fail to see what Ceausescu (Romania) has to do with the U.S. lack of mathematics and France's emphasis on it.

 

[Ziggurat]

So the only test of quality in mathematics is what is validated in Engineering books as being useful.

Most of the math required for engineering was developed by the 19th century. You'd be hard-pressed to find any 20th century mathematicians of any nationality in engineering texbooks. But engineering is not the be-all and end-all of applied mathematics - in fact, it's not even the cutting edge. Physics is. But then, you're not a physicist, you're ignorant of physics, so you pretend that engineering is the only test of the applicability of mathematics. You haven't fooled anyone.

 

[Ion]

Most part of the classic Mechanical Engineering, and CAlculus, where developed in the 1800s.
As I said, let` s look at the breaktrhoughs from the and of WWII on..

That's not true.

The Relativity is based on Poincare's mathematics.
20th. century.

The String Theory in France is now.

Most of the math required for engineering was developed by the 19th century. You'd be hard-pressed to find any 20th century mathematicians of any nationality in engineering texbooks. But engineering is not the be-all and end-all of applied mathematics - in fact, it's not even the cutting edge. Physics is. But then, you're not a physicist, you're ignorant of physics, so you pretend that engineering is the only test of the applicability of mathematics. You haven't fooled anyone.

Come on, don't pull a ZigguRat on me.

Poincare's topology is 20th. century, and the mathematics in the String Theory is now.

 

[Ion]

IN short, Ion's a perfect nobody who can only hide this fact (from himself) through name-dropping and insults but has absolutely nothing to contribute to anything, if his participation in this forum is any example ...

I guess his former colleagues in France must be pretty relieved to know he's far away ...

The stupid.

They are my friends.

 

[Ziggurat]

That's not true.

The Relativity is based on Poincare's mathematics.
20th. century.

The String Theory in France is now.

Come on, don't pull a ZiguuRat on me.

Poincare's topology is 20th. century, and the mathematics in the String Theory is now.

Evidently, you don't understand the difference between geometry and topology. There is absolutely nothing special about the topology of special relativity. It is as trivial as the topology of Newtonian physics. It is the geometry which is of interest. And Poincare's contribution was not the development of any new math, but the identification of the correct equations (which were quite simple compared to the later application of Reimann's geometry ideas to general relativity - and Reimann was much earlier than Poincare). Like I said, you don't know physics.

 

[Ion]

You don't know topology, ZigguRat.

Not surprising.

You are an American.

Contraction of time, widening of space, that's using topology's Banach.

Invented by Poincare.

(Riemann -note, there is no Reimann like you wrote, let me guess, you must be an American- was contributing in something else, and in 19th. century:

.) in surfaces in the integral calculus,
-for example, tell me what's the integral from minus infinity to plus infinity of (sinx)/x ?-

.) in Fourier Transforms, and in Fourier Series,
-there are differences between Transforms and Series, but this is a mercy post from me to you)

 

[Ziggurat]

You don't know topology, ZigguRat.

Not surprising.

You are an American.

Contraction of distances, widening of time, that's using topology's Banach.

No, that is geometry. Topology is not the same thing. And Banach has nothing to do with any of this. He didn't start his work until after special relativity was already developed.

 

[Ion]

Then learn.

I know I am right and degreed on this.

This:

"...He is considered to be one of the founders of the field of topology. Poincaré introduced the modern principle of relativity... Thus he obtained perfect invariance of all of Maxwell's equations, the final step in the formulation of the theory of special relativity..."

is from:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henri_Poincaré

Go ahead, Rat, backpedal now.

 

[Ziggurat]

.) in surfaces in the integral calculus,
-for example, tell me what's the integral from minus infinity to plus infinity of (sinx)/x ?-

Silly Ion. The answer is pi. Next time, at least pick a problem whose solution isn't trivial to locate even for those with minimal math background.

 

[Ion]

Silly Ion. The answer is pi. Next time, at least pick a problem whose solution isn't trivial to locate even for those with minimal math background.

Silly Rat,

your knowledge comes from the Table of Integrals which you parrot.

What you can't parrot is a profound education, beyond a table:

the integral is not calculated by the method of parties, but by 19th. century's Riemann (not your illiterate Reimann) surfaces.

That's Riemann's work, in the measurement of surfaces for integrals, not in topology.

 

[Ziggurat]

"...He is considered to be one of the founders of the field of topology. Poincaré introduced the modern principle of relativity... Thus he obtained perfect invariance of all of Maxwell's equations, the final step in the formulation of the theory of special relativity..."

Did it ever occur to you that maybe his contributions to topology and to relativity were two different accomplishments? No, I guess it didn't.

Go ahead, Rat, backpedal now.

Bwahahahahaha!

 

[Ion]

Did it ever occur to you that maybe fhis contributions to topology and to relativity were two different accomplishments? No, I guess it didn't.
....

Not only it didn't occur to me and to mathematicians, but it doesn't occur to me and to mathematicians.

To:

...And Poincare's contribution was not the development of any new math,...

and to:

...
Bwahahahahaha!

From:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henri_Poincaré

"...He is considered to be one of the founders of the field of topology..."

 

[Ion]

So, this being Poincare, where is one American mathematician in Engineering books?

 

[Ziggurat]

Not only it didn't occur to me and to mathematicians, but it doesn't occur to me and to mathematicians.

and:

Wow, you really don't get it. His contribution to relativity wasn't any new math. I guess you can't figure anything out if it isn't spelled out in great detail. And even when you're beaten senseless with a cluebat you still can't figure it out. Special relativity isn't about topology. It's about geometry. And if you had any idea about what those terms meant and what relativity is, you'd know that. But you're clueless, and you don't know physics (which is why you always fall back on "engineering").

 

[Ion]

...Special relativity isn't about topology. It's about geometry. And if you had any idea about what those terms meant and what relativity is, you'd know that. But you're clueless, and you don't know physics (which is why you always fall back on "engineering").

Poincare's contribution to relativity was through topology.

From:

http://www.iop.org/EJ/abstract/0264-9381/18/24/302

titled:

A note on the topology of space–time in special relativity

(contrary to Rat-the-Uneducated, who wrote that Poincare's relativity and topology are different achievements:

Did it ever occur to you that maybe his contributions to topology and to relativity were two different accomplishments?...

...Special relativity isn't about topology. It's about geometry...

I bet Rat parroted an American consultant to him, a so-called 'specialist' in mathematics in U.S., before trying to tackle me with his posts, but both of them are uneducated, one thinking of being a U.S. 'specialist' in mathematics and another one -a Rat- parroting that U.S. 'specialist'.

)


"...Poincare semigroup for relativistic symmetries (and asymmetries)..."

Man, Americans are daft...

 

[Matteo Martini]

Matteo, you play dumb but you understood long ago:

you responded when I pointed out that Western Germany Chancellor was Socialist Willy Brandt, and you brought up Germany's left-wing Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder.

I was pointing out that sometimes left-wing policies do not seem to work

Eastern Europe was Communist.

Western and Northern Europe was and is (close to) Socialism.

Socialist Europe means Western and Northern Europe.

Sarkozy is not a socialist
Merkel is not a socialist
Berlusconi is ( was ) not a socialist
Aznar was not..
..

 

[Matteo Martini]

Matteo, you play dumb but you understood long ago:

Please, reply to me about " Le Galois "..

 

[Matteo Martini]

90 years ago, U.S. had 141 years of existence.

Plenty of time to show some brains in mathematics.

You just quoted a passage from a book.
Irrelevant..

(As for Romanians who had Ceausescu, Ceausescu was not elected by Romanians.
In January 1945, Roosevelt, Churchill and Stalin partitioned Europe at Yalta.
Romania (and other countries) fell under Stalin's U.S.S.R.'s influence.
Due to U.S.S.R.'s influence in Romania, U.S.S.R. forced Communist leaders like Dej, Maurer and Ceausescu.
So, Ceausescu is a by-product of Yalta.
But this is a paranthesis.)

I fail to see what Ceausescu (Romania) has to do with the U.S. lack of mathematics and France's emphasis on it.

Ceaucescu was not elected by Romanians, but many ROmanians supported him.
They were all idiots?

 

[Matteo Martini]

That's not true.

The Relativity is based on Poincare's mathematics.
20th. century.

And, Poincare` s mathematics, is based on Algebra, developed about 500+ years ago, not in France..