Tarpley vs. Colmes - Fox is Getting Better

[MarkyX]

Yeah, I've noticed that a lot of people who sent me emails tend to be democrats, linking me to their blogs and telling me how Bush is like Hitler.

In all honestly, do these people actually believe they are being good political opposition when they are willing to accuse their opponent of murdering 3000 people without any evidence?

 

[MarkyX]

Watching the last bit with the video, I can't believe 9/11 Deniers somehow think a crazy old guy saying 30 things at once is considered a "victory". I can't believe I'm saying this, but H&C was really calm and made them look like fools.

 

[Disinfo Agent]

I don't get how the Truthers can claim that the Massmedia is covering up the truth, yet they let People like Webster Tarpley, Jim Fetzer, Morgan Reynolds, Steven Jones, Kevin Barret, Dylan Avery, Bob Bowman and all the other guys appear on a regular basis, so they can spout their BS. Looks like Doublethink to me

 

[brodski]

Yeah the whole bit about removing the pound of flesh without taking any blood, using Star Wars Beam weapons, just, well, compared to the original Shakespearian text, was just was a bit "clunklity clunkilty" and lacked the flow n beauty of the original.

Actually, the star wars beam weapons were in the original text.
The Jacobean chapter of the NWO forced Shakespeare to take them out.
Why do you think that the Globe theatre "accidentally" burned down?

And if you need more proof of the Shakespeare / NWO link- On the site of the rose theatre (where Shakespear worked before he started the Globe) now stands the headquarters the UK government body with similar responsibilities to NIST in the USA.

 

[T.A.M.]

That's a good find, Doc, thanks much for the post.

I don't like Fox "News". In fact I loathe it. Tremendously disgusting, harmful, fear-mongering. A part of the problem with this country, not part of any constructive solution. Essentially, a 24-7 infomercial for the radical wing of the Republican Party and the Bush Administration.

Having said that, it's always good to see raving lunatics such as Tarpley being made to look like - an award-winning raving lunatic. What a blow for the CTs. Yippie-ki-yay!!!

Here is where the few liberals who do have talk shows in this country miss a golden opportunity. Colmes - I guess he's a bit liberal but I wouldn't claim him. But radio talk shows such as Randi Rhodes, Mike Malloy and so forth should be TAKING THE LEAD on destroying CTs on their shows. Instead - quite the opposite. They embrace them fully, or coyly hint that they "just may have something". Wow. There's a tremendous liberal blog called BARTCOP and good old Bart also misses the point completely here. A shame, because he's pretty much on the mark with so many other things.

Gotta hand it to Ed Schultz, at least. He's a liberal talk show host and he will NOT embrace the CTs. The others, though, just don't get it. And they give Fox "News" a brief moment in the blinding sun of reason and logic and truth-seeking. Short-sighted thinking. Always loops around to kick you in the butt.

And here is why the liberal show hosts do not...Hatred of BUSH. Both the CTers and the DEMs, to a large degree, HATE BUSH. This is a common denominator which the DEMs find hard to keep to the side, and one the CTers love to use in manipulation of the LEFT.

It is why, all the more reason why, DEMs need to marginalize, if not alienate the 9/11 truth movement. It may cost them at the 2008 polls if they do not. If the organizers ot the REP campaigns get serious wind of the DEMs being in bed with the truth movement, whether it be true, or guilt by association, the public will turn on the DEM party...and the US will be looking at atleast 4 more years of REP rule.

TAM

 

[The Doc]

Like that article in the Sydney Morning Herald said, Loose Change Final Cut will be to the 2008 election what Fahrenheit 9/11 was to the 2004 election. A big vote loser for the democrats.

That memorable Rolling Stone magazine quote comes to mind. " I have no doubt that every time one of those Loose Change dickwads opens his mouth, a Republican somewhere picks up five votes."

 

[T.A.M.]

Like that article in the Sydney Morning Herald said, Loose Change Final Cut will be to the 2008 election what Fahrenheit 9/11 was to the 2004 election. A big vote loser for the democrats.

That memorable Rolling Stone magazine quote comes to mind. " I have no doubt that every time one of those Loose Change dickwads opens his mouth, a Republican somewhere picks up five votes."

Which is why I think the DEMs at places such as the Daily Kos, and other sites, are shooting themselves in the foot by not blasting the truthers on a regular basis.

TAM

 

[A W Smith]

Or understand video compression or grasp the concept of poorly shot footage, not to mention the confusion over the orginal aspect ratio.

Oh funny story on this matter, the first day of the Saddam Trial, there are two local cameramen covering the courtroom. One has his camera set to 4:3 aspect ratio, the other has it set to 16:9. It starts to be fed in, and the engineer sees the 4:3 pics, and assumes it's 4:3 and sets the feed up accordly, then the 16:9 shots start coming, he thinks he's going mad, and resets the arc to be 16:9, then a couple of 4:3 shots come in, and this poor SOB thinks he's seeing things.

Man I got handed these pictures, and it was like a freaking hall of mirrors in the fun house, and I had to fix em, So stuff was 4:3 arc'd to 16:9, some stuff was 16:9 that had been arc'd as 4:3, some of the stuff had even been run through two arc's trying to figure out what was going on. I had squat Saddam, Lardass Saddam, Abraham Lincoln Saddam, and Saddam who could play in the NBA. The best way to check if something is in the wrong aspect ratio is to look at the curvature of anything approaching round, and look for elogation or compression. I swear I spent fifteen minutes staring at Hussein's ear thinking to myself..."does this look right?"

Anywho Colmes and Hannity when up my estimation, by a good, oh I now have a remote insignificant modicum of respect for them.

Too bad Bin laden didn't wear hoop earrings. would have made your job easier.

 

[ConspiRaider]

Which is why I think the DEMs at places such as the Daily Kos, and other sites, are shooting themselves in the foot by not blasting the truthers on a regular basis.

TAM

Roger that, GP-Doc.

That's why I kick the CTs in their butts, early and often. I'm a U.S. Democrat, liberal. Not a leftist, not a Socialist, not a Communist. Democrat and liberal. It is not rocket science to embrace the concept that those who engage in the identical tactics of deception and lies as the Bush Administration need to be vehemently criticized and opposed. By glomming onto the Democratic Party via one fashion or another, they weaken the Democrats' ability to parry with, and prevail against, the radical element of Republicanism that has bullied its way into the top levels of the U.S. Federal government.

Hate is always blinding - always. Love is blinding, hate is blinding. Strong emotions will do that to a chap or chappess.

I'd said as much on liberal radio talk show host Mike Malloy's forum. Got banned for that.

I'd said as much on liberal radio talk show host Randi Rhodes's message board, more than 3,000 posts. Eventually got death-threated there, self-banned.

I'd said as much in posts to the excellent BARTCOP blog and got raked over the coals.

Speaking of Fox "News", owned by Rupert Murdoch, the megalomaniac himself: Today I find out that he is dedicating himself to getting the word out on global warming. He's embracing the science, no longer shielding the evil of the Bush Administration at least in this critical area. Well well well. Welcome to the human race, Rupes. About damned time. I'm not going to love this guy, but I'd be a fool to ignore the significance of this startling reversal.

 

[T.A.M.]

Roger that, GP-Doc.

That's why I kick the CTs in their butts, early and often. I'm a U.S. Democrat, liberal. Not a leftist, not a Socialist, not a Communist. Democrat and liberal. It is not rocket science to embrace the concept that those who engage in the identical tactics of deception and lies as the Bush Administration need to be vehemently criticized and opposed. By glomming onto the Democratic Party via one fashion or another, they weaken the Democrats' ability to parry with, and prevail against, the radical element of Republicanism that has bullied its way into the top levels of the U.S. Federal government.

Hate is always blinding - always. Love is blinding, hate is blinding. Strong emotions will do that to a chap or chappess.

I'd said as much on liberal radio talk show host Mike Malloy's forum. Got banned for that.

I'd said as much on liberal radio talk show host Randi Rhodes's message board, more than 3,000 posts. Eventually got death-threated there, self-banned.

I'd said as much in posts to the excellent BARTCOP blog and got raked over the coals.

Speaking of Fox "News", owned by Rupert Murdoch, the megalomaniac himself: Today I find out that he is dedicating himself to getting the word out on global warming. He's embracing the science, no longer shielding the evil of the Bush Administration at least in this critical area. Well well well. Welcome to the human race, Rupes. About damned time. I'm not going to love this guy, but I'd be a fool to ignore the significance of this startling reversal.

If your gonna call me Doc...I prefer FP-Doc, as I have 2 years additional training specifically in Family Practice, above the GP level. In all honestly, i much prefer TAM...unless my profession is within the question scope.

They need more like you ConspiRaider. I personally, am a Liberal on most issues, though I am very much into "family". I however, am an economic conservative, but with liberal tendencies in terms of govt spending.

Earlier this year I thought for sure 2008 would be a DEM landslide, but if LC:FC gets popular at all, it may come at a critical moment when the DEMs will need to join with the REPs and denounce it...if not, and the public sees the DEMs as behind it and the 9/11 truth, the REPs will pounce on it, and you will be looking at President Guliani in 2008.

TAM

 

[pomeroo]

I love how they reacted when he said Osama Bin Laden was a troop of actors... that was just brilliant...

-Gumboot

Gee, I'll bet Tarpley would jes' love to tackle the Osama Conundrum. I wonder why he changed his mind about appearing on 'Hardfire.'

 

[gumboot]

This 9/11 Truth stuff has a shocking impact on one's ego...

I mean, I'm a frikken 25yr old filmmaker from the nether regions of the world, yet when I turn to these University Professors with multiple published books and decades of experience, I feel like I'm marking one of my sister's students' pieces of homework. (She teaches 10yr olds).

This simply is not right.

How can I have a better grasp of physics than Dr Judy Wood? I have no illusions about my lack of knowledge in this field. She's a University Professor for Christ's Sake!!!

How is it that lowly me can turn myself to critical and logical thinking more effectively than Dr Fetzer, Dr Griffin, and other far more experienced and better educated individuals?

That is simply stupid.

What the [rule8] is wrong with these people?

-Gumboot

 

[boloboffin]

The end cracked me up. Tarpley just talked on and on. At any moment, I expected him to break out into "It's a cookbook! Soylent Green is people!"

 

[T.A.M.]

This 9/11 Truth stuff has a shocking impact on one's ego...

I mean, I'm a frikken 25yr old filmmaker from the nether regions of the world, yet when I turn to these University Professors with multiple published books and decades of experience, I feel like I'm marking one of my sister's students' pieces of homework. (She teaches 10yr olds).

This simply is not right.

How can I have a better grasp of physics than Dr Judy Wood? I have no illusions about my lack of knowledge in this field. She's a University Professor for Christ's Sake!!!

How is it that lowly me can turn myself to critical and logical thinking more effectively than Dr Fetzer, Dr Griffin, and other far more experienced and better educated individuals?

That is simply stupid.

What the [rule8] is wrong with these people?

-Gumboot

It is amazing when one takes paranoia out of the equation.

TAM

 

[NeoRicen]

If your gonna call me Doc...I prefer FP-Doc, as I have 2 years additional training specifically in Family Practice, above the GP level. In all honestly, i much prefer TAM...unless my profession is within the question scope.

They need more like you ConspiRaider. I personally, am a Liberal on most issues, though I am very much into "family". I however, am an economic conservative, but with liberal tendencies in terms of govt spending.

Earlier this year I thought for sure 2008 would be a DEM landslide, but if LC:FC gets popular at all, it may come at a critical moment when the DEMs will need to join with the REPs and denounce it...if not, and the public sees the DEMs as behind it and the 9/11 truth, the REPs will pounce on it, and you will be looking at President Guliani in 2008.

TAM

Meh, I have this strange feeling FC will be a flop. Besides most Dem candidates I'm away of have called it supid.

I also get the feeling the truthers tend to be anarchist types, they don't like any government and probably won't exactly endorse anyone, likely just give crap to the Republicans.

 

[CplFerro]

More media hysterics--and this is the media that the average peasant "trusts for news."

This is the type of video that conveys very clearly how mindless people are these days, how retarded and hysterical the media is. The fact that anyone on JREF even bothered to comment on the content of the video shakes my sense of optimism in the human race, if I were to believe that JREF exampled approaching the best of it.

The interviewers are asses--talking over Mr. Tarpley, cutting him off, baiting him, trying to generate the usual media hysterics common to "political debates", presenting a sarcastic attitude obviously intending to try to crucify him. The whole format is designed to prevent thinking, to provide a template for audience members to adopt in themselves not thinking. That supposed "skeptics" on JREF can't see that immediately, and don't attack it and make note of the media's incredible bad faith, is disheartening.

I imagine Mr. Tarpley went on just for the sake of having his book advertised, which is a plus, I suppose. At least he mentioned the Gulf of Tonkin.

Cpl Ferro

 

[Brainster]

The interviewers are asses--talking over Mr. Tarpley, cutting him off, baiting him, trying to generate the usual media hysterics common to "political debates", presenting a sarcastic attitude obviously intending to try to crucify him. The whole format is designed to prevent thinking, to provide a template for audience members to adopt in themselves not thinking. That supposed "skeptics" on JREF can't see that immediately, and don't attack it and make note of the media's incredible bad faith, is disheartening.Cpl Ferro

Conservative media tend to laugh this stuff off as crackpottery without engaging in any kind of debate because they understand that there is no real fear that their target audience is going to be seduced by 9-11 Denial. On the other hand, liberal (and especially leftist) media attack the conspiracy theorists substantively because they are legitimately concerned that this stuff will catch on among their followers. Both scorn and substantive debunking are effective although not always with the same audience.

I was encouraged by Colmes' improvement over an earlier appearance by Uncle Fetzer where Colmes professed himself to be an "agnostic" on the 9-11 conspiracy theories.

 

[maxpower1227]

Come on guys, it's obvious that Osama bin Laden is an actor. And not only that, it's actually several actors. It makes much more sense to have a different person portray him each time, just in case the first actor... gets bored, or.. something.

That was truly painful to watch. What a stark raving lunatic.

Actually, on second thought, I think this guy is on to something. After reviewing some old movies, it's clear to me now that Eddie Murphy is not who we think he is; he's actually a troupe of 17 different actors.

 

[Thunder]

Bin Laden...troop of actors....lol.

 

[twinstead]

The raving, spittle-spewing Tarpley is basically every 911 truther in microcosm. He is his movement's own worst enemy.