SpaceMonkeyZero
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Shadowy Government Reverse Vampires (They did their work in daylight after all)
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I consider it incorrect to say that the plane buried under ground. Some of the wreckage certainly did that but my suspicion is most of the plane ended up in tiny pieces scattered over a huge area. Even today bits of metal and other things can be found all over that area.
TC:
So which is it...a passenger plane shot down, or no passenger plane at all, make up your mind already.
Warner:
Disregard most of what TC has to say unless he backs it up with links to reputable sources.
TAM
Shoot Down. I made that clear already. As for whether it was specifically 'UA93' or another plane is unknown as there hasn't been anything to positively identify the airplane other than media accounts from the same sources that brought us "Saddam is an eminent threat and can launch biological and chemical weapons within 45 minutes."
Naturally I don't believe anything this Administration (much like the previous 3) has to say.
amazing that he could find BODY PARTS from the victims in the adjacent area, but not see any blood...I guess these body parts had ALL THE BLOOD REMOVED FROM THEM!!
OMG, what ridiculousness
TAM
Call Wally Miller and tell him how ridiculous that is. Mark will give his number.
Obviously a shoot-down that selectively removed the blood from the passengers...
If it hadn't taken place in full daylight, I'd be forced to accept the vampire theory as superior to yours, ErrorCell. That puts you in, let's see... ah, here it is: Last Place.
If it hadn't taken place in full daylight, I'd be forced to accept the vampire theory as superior to yours, ErrorCell. That puts you in, let's see... ah, here it is: Last Place.
I very much doubt that this bothers them.
So you're telling me the coroner is lying or the coroner invented this incredibly stupid vampire theory of yours?
I'm telling you that a "shoot down" also doesn't explain your ridiculous "no blood" comment.
I disagree, and I'm not lying. Two engines were found. One in the crater, one in a pond a few hundred meters away. Both heavily damaged.
So who shot it down? With what ordnance? Why does the FDR indicate no damage up to the point of impact? Why are there no secondary debris fields? Why are you still here?
I disagree, and I'm not lying. Two engines were found. One in the crater, one in a pond a few hundred meters away. Both heavily damaged.
So who shot it down? With what ordnance? Why does the FDR indicate no damage up to the point of impact? Why are there no secondary debris fields? Why are you still here?
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Yes one engine was recovered about 5 feet deep in the ground because it was still attached at impact. A 2nd engine was recovered over a thousand feet away. It did not 'bounce'.
2)USAF
3) Don't know
4) Why does AA77 FDR indicate it didn't hit the street poles?
5) There are 3 debris fields - Shanksville, Indian Lake, & New Baltimore
6) I don't break the TOS and I get a kick out of randomly slapping Bush Nazi's around.
7)I'm telling you that a "shoot down" also doesn't explain your ridiculous "no blood" comment.
7) There was 'no blood' in Shanksville and Indian Lake. There are 3 debris fields.
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Yes one engine was recovered about 5 feet deep in the ground because it was still attached at impact. A 2nd engine was recovered over a thousand feet away. It did not 'bounce'.
2)USAF
3) Don't know
4) Why does AA77 FDR indicate it didn't hit the street poles?
5) There are 3 debris fields - Shanksville, Indian Lake, & New Baltimore
6) I don't break the TOS and I get a kick out of randomly slapping Bush Nazi's around.
1) Didn't have to. It continued in the original direction of travel. The aircraft's roll angle suggests that one engine hit ground first and plowed, while the other was raised above the fuselage. Gee, how suspicious. I also like how "almost a mile" has become "a thousand feet." Want to try for even more accuracy, liar?
2) Sure they did.
3) They only way for an AAM to take out a large aircraft is either through (a) destroying control surfaces, (b) destroying an engine, (c) killing the pilots, or (d) gross structural breakup. (a) through (c) are precluded by FDR records of correct function and pilot inputs up until impact. (d) is precluded by the non-existence of secondary debris fields and the continued function of the FDR at all. You lose.
4) It does no such thing. Stop lying, if you even know how.
5) There are not. Blowing paper post-impact is not a separate debris field.
6) If I see any, I'll give you a call, tough guy.
7) Why even bring up the "no blood" comment, if you have no explanation for it? Doesn't that suggest you have a problem?
Sheesh.
slyjoe
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Come on TC, the vampire theory was MINE.
SpaceMonkeyZero
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Call Wally Miller and tell him how ridiculous that is. Mark will give his number.
So who removed the blood between the time Flight 93 took off, and their body parts were found at the crash scene? After all, the body parts found were matched to passengers on flight 93 right?
slyjoe
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It's the new model of vampires - think Blade without the serum.
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And all of that debris was found in the direction in which the plane was travelling. Not spread for miles in the direction from which it came. Learn something about explosives and aircraft before you sit on a petard with a torch in your hand.
Do you realize what happened when you damage the fuselage of a pressurized aircraft? Or what happens to it when it rams into a solid surface? The skin comes of rather explosively sometimes. It doesn't even take a lot of damage for a pressurized fuselage to fail at speed.
Also, there was enough of the aircraft in tact at the scene to punch an airplane-shaped hole in the ground, complete with the tail print. And, considering that it hit up-side down, it is remarkable that EITHER engine was found in association with the wings.
I tell you what TC...I am willing to bet money that if they found body parts, they found blood. As to what he meant by his comments, only he can straighten out. I am a physician, and I can tell you where there are parts, there is blood. Even if all, I mean all, the skin and muscle and vessels was torn away, the marrow would contain some blood within the bone.
Sorry...where there are body parts, there is blood...EOS.
TAM
Sorry...where there are body parts, there is blood...EOS.
TAM
SO please provide us with the evidence/parts/debris collection list from the FBi that you certainly MUST HAVE to make such a definitive statement.
oh wait, I am sure you don't have one, so you must be...wait for it...wait for it....speculating/exaggerating/tall tale telling when you say the above...right?
TAM
1) I am not a liar. I said "OVER" a thousand feet away.
Please explain the gag orders on Johnstown ATC & Westmoreland County 911.
You deny Indian Lake & New Baltimore debris fields and call me a liar???And when you can positively identify the type of plane witnessed by Susan McElwain, Dale Browning, Susan Custer, Jim Brandt, Tom Spinelli, John Fleegle, plus some unpublished accounts who confirm a F20 Falcon was not the white plane and nowhere near then you can tell me what is capable of doing what to a plane.
Yes, it does.
It isn't blowing paper. Residents of Indian Lake weren't collecting 'paper' and turning it over to the FBI.
That explains why you can't see the truth about 9/11. You wouldn't know what a Nazi was if you were on the same side as the Nationalists, oh wait you are.
I can't explain it. I am not a coroner nor did I work the crash scene. That's the coroners words and the words of the eyewitnesses that were on the scene. Call the good people of Shanksville Liars, you have to live with it, not me. I believe they are good honest people who tell the truth about their experiences.
