Help with Shanksville question

[warner]

I have been having a discussion about flight 93 on another forum. As ever the out of context quote was made about no blood and no plane. I explained that they couldn't see plane bodies or blood because the plane had buried itself into the ground.

They have now come back and said i am contradicting the 911 report because it doesnt say that. Was i wrong?

 

[Par]

I have been having a discussion about flight 93 on another forum. As ever the out of context quote was made about no blood and no plane. I explained that they couldn't see plane bodies or blood because the plane had buried itself into the ground.

They have now come back and said i am contradicting the 911 report because it doesnt say that. Was i wrong?

Have you asked them to cite the part of the 9/11 Commission Report that supposedly contradicts you?

 

[warner]

No they just said the report does not say it buried its self and i have to admit i havent read it.

 

[TC329]

"I have not to this day ever seen a single drop of blood" - Wally Miller 9/11/2

Body parts were recovered from the adjacent wooded area and Indian Lake. Unofficial reports from local residents also points to a section of New Baltimore.

There was nothing in that crater but 1 engine and some scrap. Sure as hell wasn't 90% of a 757 and it's passengers and crew. The second engine was recovered nearly a mile away.

 

[warner]

Here are the remarks

"... most of the [4th] plane etc. was found under the ground and had to be dug out", ex-human says, a fact hitherto totally unknown to anyone including the 9/11 commission.

- He is "for" the official story of events.
- the official report on 9/11 doesn't seem to mention the 'burried plane' scenario.
- let's assume he is right with his 'burried plane' scenario
- it follows that the official report on 9/11 is mistaken.

How can this be when Dr. F is "for" the official story of events while contradicting the official report on 9/11 with the 'burried plane' scenario?

Both can be mistaken, of course, but in this case there is one thing both cannot be......................

 

[CHF]

"I have not to this day ever seen a single drop of blood" - Wally Miller 9/11/2

Body parts were recovered from the adjacent wooded area and Indian Lake. Unofficial reports from local residents also points to a section of New Baltimore.

There was nothing in that crater but 1 engine and some scrap. Sure as hell wasn't 90% of a 757 and it's passengers and crew. The second engine was recovered nearly a mile away.

Is this the same Wally Miller who thinks truthers are on crack?

I think BBC addressed this stuff. Only paper and slight scraps of metal were found in Indian Lake.

 

[R.Mackey]

I have been having a discussion about flight 93 on another forum. As ever the out of context quote was made about no blood and no plane. I explained that they couldn't see plane bodies or blood because the plane had buried itself into the ground.

They have now come back and said i am contradicting the 911 report because it doesnt say that. Was i wrong?

It wasn't so much that the plane was "buried" as that it was dashed into tiny pieces. Most of it, anyway. As TerrorCell above clumsily implied, one of the engines was relatively intact, but it was found only a couple of hundred meters away, not a mile. The debris field is totally unsurprising to anyone with any relevant experience.

The entire human body only contains about five liters of blood. If you spray that all out, it dries rapidly... The coroner on scene recovered lots of body parts, but no big ones. The relative paucity of visible and flowing blood is hardly surprising under such grim circumstances.

Please, let's not use this graveyard as grounds for paranoid fantasies.

 

[Alt+F4]

No they just said the report does not say it buried its self and i have to admit i havent read it.

Using Adobe you can search the report by key words.

http://www.gpoaccess.gov/911/index.html

 

[TC329]

Is this the same Wally Miller who thinks truthers are on crack?

I think BBC addressed this stuff. Only paper and slight scraps of metal were found in Indian Lake.

I don't care what he thinks about the truth movement. Yes Wally recovered body parts from the adjacent wooded area and Indian Lake. But he still has never seen any blood in correlation with the doomed flight.

And if you go to Indian Lake and talk to residents you hear a much different story. People collected garbage cans full of debris.

P.S. only paper and slight scraps of metal were found at Shanksville. Whats your point?

 

[TC329]

It wasn't so much that the plane was "buried" as that it was dashed into tiny pieces. Most of it, anyway. As TerrorCell above clumsily implied, one of the engines was relatively intact, but it was found only a couple of hundred meters away, not a mile. The debris field is totally unsurprising to anyone with any relevant experience.

The entire human body only contains about five liters of blood. If you spray that all out, it dries rapidly... The coroner on scene recovered lots of body parts, but no big ones. The relative paucity of visible and flowing blood is hardly surprising under such grim circumstances.

Please, let's not use this graveyard as grounds for paranoid fantasies.

The difference between what you say and what I say is you claim he found "lots" of body parts. That isn't true.

So you're speaking of yourself as much as you are me when you say 'paranoid fantasies'.

 

[T.A.M.]

TC:

So which is it...a passenger plane shot down, or no passenger plane at all, make up your mind already.

Warner:

Disregard most of what TC has to say unless he backs it up with links to reputable sources.

TAM

 

[HyJinX]

Read TC, READ!

http://internetdetectives.biz/case/loose-change-4

 

[R.Mackey]

The difference between what you say and what I say is you claim he found "lots" of body parts. That isn't true.

So you're speaking of yourself as much as you are me when you say 'paranoid fantasies'.

Is that your professional opinion?

 

[T.A.M.]

amazing that he could find BODY PARTS from the victims in the adjacent area, but not see any blood...I guess these body parts had ALL THE BLOOD REMOVED FROM THEM!!

OMG, what ridiculousness

TAM

 

[slyjoe]

Vampires

 

[Brainster]

I don't care what he thinks about the truth movement. Yes Wally recovered body parts from the adjacent wooded area and Indian Lake. But he still has never seen any blood in correlation with the doomed flight.

And if you go to Indian Lake and talk to residents you hear a much different story. People collected garbage cans full of debris.

Ah, excellent, a "Truther" who's done some legwork and discovered new information. Could you advise us as to which residents you've interviewed, and what exactly they told you?

 

[uk_dave]

amazing that he could find BODY PARTS from the victims in the adjacent area, but not see any blood...I guess these body parts had ALL THE BLOOD REMOVED FROM THEM!!

OMG, what ridiculousness

TAM

Yeah. How'd you reconcile that one TC? Body parts but no blood?
Or maybe your beliefs are letting you down again.

Vampires

Just where was Pomeroo that day?

 

[CHF]

I don't care what he thinks about the truth movement. Yes Wally recovered body parts from the adjacent wooded area and Indian Lake. But he still has never seen any blood in correlation with the doomed flight.

So....Flight 93 crashed then? Or no plane crashed and the gov scattered body parts all over the place? What exactly is your theory?

And if you go to Indian Lake and talk to residents you hear a much different story. People collected garbage cans full of debris.

What kind of debris? And who'd you talk to?

P.S. only paper and slight scraps of metal were found at Shanksville. Whats your point?

Only paper and light metal were found at Shanksville? Don't recall making that point.

 

[warner]

Here's the board

http://pub44.bravenet.com/forum/3778865049/

Now Ive got a Dutchman telling me that in the ground and under the ground are different things.

Talk about double Dutch.

 

[slyjoe]

...
Just where was Pomeroo that day?

ROFL!

[ctmode, except for bad spelling]

Where in the 9/11 Commission Report DID they account for pomeroo? The entire report is a whitewash.

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