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Reincarnation as a scientific hypothesis

wogoga

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There have been many interesting answers to my posting 'Replacement of the bonds by gold'. Among others, questions and objections to my claims concerning reincarnation have been risen. It seems more appropriate to me to discuss this topic in a separate thread.

For the first time I consciously dealt with reincarnation twenty years ago. It seemed then as unacceptable to me as it seems to you still now. But already around one year later, in 1988, I became convinced that reincarnation is a scientific fact. At the beginning, the demographic development of mankind seemed to me the strongest argument against reincarnation. But already in 1997, when I wrote 'The Demographic Saturation Theory', demography had become a main support of reincarnation. And the last ten years have further confirmed the predictions of the demographic saturation model. See 'A Critical Analysis of the 2006 Revision of the UN World Population Prospects' (mostly banned from Google), published on the net in June 2007 with these chapters:

- Introduction
- The most obvious anomalies of the 2006 revision
- The essence of demographic transition
- Direct-replacement versus generation-replacement fertility
- Saturated populations as the endpoint of demographic transition
- Classification in subpopulations and evolutionary relatedness
- The effect of migration on direct-replacement fertility
- The emergence of natural decrease
- The effect of wars on fecundability and on sex ratio at birth
- China's missing girls
- Conclusion

It is true that the assumption is possible that in China every year around one million girls are killed before or after birth only because they are girls. But at least in the poorer social groups and in remote regions, antenatal sex determination should not be very widespread. And the Chinese population knows that there are not enough girls, and this knowledge alone makes the birth of a girl valuable.

Yet it is a fact that the sex ratio of the whole population of China does not change and that "the missing girls" are confronted with a "feminization of the elderly".

My reincarnation theory has nothing to do with religious or esoteric reincarnation theories.

Two extracts from 'The Psychon Theory':

"For a person to be born, what is required is a human soul which has evolved by reincarnation. Human souls are reborn with increased probability in a similar environment. This ENVIRONMENT CONTINUITY can easily be verified empirically (e.g. by examining persons with pronounced rare characteristics). A manifestation of this principle is that persons are often in contact with persons they have also been in contact with in former lives. Environment continuity is also valid for animal souls. It is essential when a species splits into subspecies. It stands to reason that environment continuity is valid not only for human and animal souls but for all psychons."

"Essential human properties or their predispositions such as character, social behaviour, intelligence, talents, likings, aversions and phobias are given by the soul. It is not astonishing that somebody who died in his last life in an overcrowded cattle wagon after long suffering gets claustrophobia e.g. in an overcrowed cable railway."

In any case, I'm a consistent exponent of evolution. I do not only believe that our ancestors were apes, but I'm convinced that we ourselves were the monkeys we descend from. Neodarwinism however seems to me a rather absurd creation theory, because it assumes that the universe was hyper-designed and super-created by a big bang in such a complex way that blind downhill processes (increasing entropy) can design and create whole ecosystems.

Cheers, Wolfgang
 
why is the male:female ratio in China evidence of reincarnation?

do you not find it odd that a far more plausible explanation (that of the one child policy) can be used to describe the male:female ratio in China without recourse to reincarnation?

If reincarnation requires a gender imbalance then do only countries with disproportionate ratios experience reincarnation?
 
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why in the male:female ratio in China evidence of reincarnation?

do you not find it odd that a far more plausible explanation (that of the one child policy) can be used to describe the male:female ratio in China without recourse to reincarnation?

If reincarnation requires a gender imbalance then do only countries with disproportionate ratios experience reincarnation?

Thank you. Beat me to it and definitely said it better.
 
I assumed before opening this thread that I was going to hear some other kind of information to back up reincarnation but I never thought analyzing demographics can provide any support. Is this Psychon Theory the same as your Demographic Saturation Theory? The psychon theory doesn't make sense to me because when you are born, you do not live your life with the memories/experiences/knowledge from any previous life. You start on a completely new slate and learn everything from start to finish. The only phenomenon that would help establish support for reincarnation would be one of those "past life regression" hypnotists who takes care not to create suggestions that would provoke their imagination to create scenarios somehow..
 
As a "qualified" hypnotherapist and certified "Advanced Past Lives Practitioner" (courtesy of an extra 8 day course), in my annecdotal experience I have seen nothing that makes me in any way believe in reincarnation.

I have seen people become highly engrossed and emotionally involved in their internal, guided flights of past life imagination however...
 
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Ah okay, good to know JonWhite.

Wolfgang, why would google ban an analysis of the UN population reports?
 
I'm sorry, but is this thread about scientific validation of reincarnation? Or is it about proof of souls, evolution, big bang theory, or the gender-driven murder of chinese girls?

If I may ask, are you saying:

1. 'The Psychon Theory' is proof of reincarnation?
2. Souls exist for humans and animals?
3. Humans (homo sapiens) descended from themselves?
4. All phobias come from occurances in previous lives?
 
I remember reading a science fiction short story some decades ago in which children were being born without any intelligence or personalities. The answer -- the population had grown to the point that there were no souls left to reincarnate.

When this actually happens I may become a believer.
 
I remember reading a science fiction short story some decades ago in which children were being born without any intelligence or personalities. The answer -- the population had grown to the point that there were no souls left to reincarnate.

When this actually happens I may become a believer.

I offer as proof then - Creationists... born without any intelligence or personalities.
 
As others have suggested, addressing reincarnation requires first some evidence for dualism. To suggest self-awarenss and memories can exist independantly of the body they are formed within needs to be addressed before one can demonstrate that this can be transferred from one body to another.

Reincarnation is like most pseudoscience - it relies on anecdotes and data mining and falls apart when the questions start to hammer down. I predict this will be another post-and-run, where the hard questions will be avoided and the poster will only respond to the more snide remarks being made.

Athon
 
In any case, I'm a consistent exponent of evolution. I do not only believe that our ancestors were apes, but I'm convinced that we ourselves were the monkeys we descend from. Neodarwinism however seems to me a rather absurd creation theory, because it assumes that the universe was hyper-designed and super-created by a big bang in such a complex way that blind downhill processes (increasing entropy) can design and create whole ecosystems.

Darwinism has nothing to do with creation, and your use of the word "neodarwinism" suggests you only wish to have a dishonest discussion about the subject.

Why ramble for a few paragraphs without doing what is suggested by your title: providing a scientific hypothesis for reincarnation? I know, do you?
 
Wow, that's some incredibly deep, ummmm... stuff?

I know the OP was in English, but I'm not sure that there were any complete thoughts expressed, except an attack on "neodarwinism" that presented something that isn't anything remotely related to Darwin.
 
There have been many interesting answers to my posting 'Replacement of the bonds by gold'. ....
that plus this thread equals the only two posts you've made.
meaning, that you seem to not plan on actually discussing the points you've made.
 
Here's your cat from a previous life, Wolfgang!

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