Students must remember 'God' in Texas pledge

Even if students say it it won't change the minds of those who don't believe in God.
Most of them will be "Ohh, ok whatever." and say it.

They won't be aknowledging anything.
I think it won' tbe too long until someone from that state makes the news when declining to say that part.
 
Riddle said, "Our Texas pledge is perfectly OK like it is with the exception of acknowledging that just as we are one nation under God, we are one state under God as well."
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I'd like to propose a bill that prohibits lawmakers who cannot correctly speak English from interfering with what happens in Texas schools.

By law, students who object to saying the pledge or making the reference to God can bring a written note from home excusing them from participating.
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Haven't the courts already decided that students that do not want to recite the pledge of Allegiance do not need written permission?
 
Ladewig said:
Haven't the courts already decided that students that do not want to recite the pledge of Allegiance do not need written permission?
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Jehovah's Witnesses took this to the Supreme Court long ago and won. No one can be forced to recite a pledge like that, and cannot be punished for refusing.
 
Are we talking about Texas home of American Atheists? Where Madeline Murry-O'Hare lived and died? This won't float. The ACLU will be all over this in a second. Just wait until the school year starts. Forcing religion on people will only backfire and Texas will find itself unable to have a pledge at all.

Of course this should be taken seriously, we shouldn't stand back and wait for someone else to do something.

Here in California my children would be in the school office making waves the first day. On the day the Catholic pope died, my youngest son (at the time 13 years old)asked for an apt with the principal. When he got to see the principal my son wanted to know why they were flying the flag at half staff for the Pope. The principal said that he was ordered by the President of the U.S. that all public buildings must fly the flag at half-staff, his hands were tied. He then told my son that he should be a lawyer someday.

I never heard a thing until it was all over. Funny, in a way I think the world will be a better place when our kids take over the government. Yes, I do tend to see most things as positive.

Susan
 
sgf8 said:
Are we talking about Texas home of American Atheists? Where Madeline Murry-O'Hare lived and died? This won't float. The ACLU will be all over this in a second. Just wait until the school year starts. Forcing religion on people will only backfire and Texas will find itself unable to have a pledge at all.

Of course this should be taken seriously, we shouldn't stand back and wait for someone else to do something.

Here in California my children would be in the school office making waves the first day. On the day the Catholic pope died, my youngest son (at the time 13 years old)asked for an apt with the principal. When he got to see the principal my son wanted to know why they were flying the flag at half staff for the Pope. The principal said that he was ordered by the President of the U.S. that all public buildings must fly the flag at half-staff, his hands were tied. He then told my son that he should be a lawyer someday.

I never heard a thing until it was all over. Funny, in a way I think the world will be a better place when our kids take over the government. Yes, I do tend to see most things as positive.

Susan
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Bravo for your son! :)
 
Better get rid of the moment of silence too. That might be endorsing religion because it is prayer-like, right?
 
sgf8 said:
When he got to see the principal my son wanted to know why they were flying the flag at half staff for the Pope. The principal said that he was ordered by the President of the U.S. that all public buildings must fly the flag at half-staff, his hands were tied.

Susan
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Good for your son. The world needs more like him.

However, the President was correct. The U.S. recognizes The Vatican as a sovereign state. The Pope exercises supreme legislative, executive, and judicial power over the Holy See and the State of the Vatican City.
By U.S. law, the Pope is entitled to flag honors due any head of state.

Created in 1929 to provide a territorial identity for the Holy See in Rome, the State of Vatican City is a recognized national territory under international law. The Holy See enters into international agreements and receives and sends diplomatic representatives.
 
T'ai Chi said:
Better get rid of the moment of silence too. That might be endorsing religion because it is prayer-like, right?
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The "moment of silence" is constitutional so I have no legal beef with it. No one is forced to participate, and there is no specific religious activity as the end goal.

Tell me something. If you lived in a predominately Islamic country, would you ok with having to say "Allah Akbar" in place of "in God we trust"? Would you allow your children to be coerced into saying it? Why should someone else's religious beliefs take precedence over yours, or vice versa? Either scenario is simply a case of "freedom for me, but not for thee".

The moment of silence is just dandy because no one is forced to do anything.
 
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